Classic's Originality Crisis
 

Items are being resold for another holiday season. (The present and elf morphs) and I don't understand why.

It's not like there is a:

shortage of player submissions

or a shortage of Graphic Artists


So are player submissions not up to par or the Graphic Artists' busy this time of year?

I would make this thread look neat but I'm lazy.

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They did this for the last holiday too, I dont think its laziness, or a lack of originality, I think they are just reselling items because you know-- they can. Tons of other games resell holiday items, so its not like this is something exclusively Graal.

Some newer players may like to get their hands on the (well made) older morphs!

I'm pretty sure the problem is that there's a finite number of things that can be made into hats or furniture.

There's only so many original things you can put on your head.
I mean, it's Christmas anyway, how many things can you actually think of that haven't been done? If you think it's a crisis now, just wait around until 2018 and it will be some sort of catastrophe, IDK.

Doubt that's the case. This year had heaps of stuff, there must have been a crazy surge of work for the Holiday Store. This is just the tip of the iceberg though, gifts will have a crazy amount of amazing, original hats, trust me. Remember how last year, Onnet only had 4 hats? Well, uh yeah, look at this years store.

Also, I am pretty sure they put the old morphs there primarily just to get players to buy gralat packs, otherwise they would not have re-introduced them.

Reselling items really breaks the exclusiveness of certain items...

Enough said.

I can promise you now it's not down to laziness, most of us aren't told what will be sold in the shops alongside what's been made. Maybe it was just in high demand?

You guys have a lack of coordination and I don't blame the low-staff for that.

"low-staff" ok you try to do their job, and we'll see how "uncoordinated" you are.

Seriously can you stop? There's no need for them to be informed on what is going to be sold or resold in a shop, why should they? Their job is to make graphics.

if it isn't the case now, it will be in the future, so people should start accepting it now because the content will get thinner and thinner as iClassic gets older and older

Gonna release a brain hat because some of you don't have one.

huehue

I agree Classic is reselling too many items. 'Collecting' stuff is one of the few things people do on Classic so reselling something from 3-4years ago is just nonsense. I mean if it were something that was sold last year, still pretty lame but ok. This however...

Could someone please post a screenshot of inside the VIP room? thanks! will rep many, many times if so!!

This stock is by far the worst stock of items ever in onnet general.

Besides it wasn't even necessary, there was enough content in Onnet General already along with 1 elf morph in the VIP room, no need got a second one.

I think player made graphics should be used more widely. If anything, it would save the artists a job, and they would become more graphics moderators. Coco does an amazing job but maybe sometimes it is best just to allow some of the cool and original ideas to be used that have been created by players, not just in the holidays.

One plus of this, is that players know what players want. (PKers want masks and stuff etc)

Already exists, sorry. If you remake it people will call you unoriginal and if you resell it people will call you lazy. :P

"Exclusive" hats should be ones earned through a task. I wouldn't consider anything that someone buys to be "exclusive" anyway. Isn't there another thread demanding certain items back in shops? And now this one saying it's bad. It's best to stop complaining about it, it's not fixing anything. Complain about actual problems.

1) What makes you think there is a lot of player submissions?
2) What makes you think even if there were a lot of submissions, there is a lot of usable content?
3) Those submissions are for Christmas presents, not Onnet.

The graphics team are all volunteers. That may seem a lot, but realize that most of those are either in school or have jobs and other obligations. Also realize since they are volunteer there is only so much you can do to encourage them to actually work and adhere to deadlines. I'm not saying the graphics team are bad workers, I'm saying they have other things to deal with. While 12 staff members may seem like a lot, between all of these factors it can be hard to get a lot of content made. Let's not forget that not all graphics made are actually used, some don't make the cut.

1)The traffic on the thread. Even if it's only a lot of back and forth it is still a significant number of replies.
2)This answers both your second and third question, in the past two years there has been a significant amount of approved items submitted by other players.
3)Throughout the year many players have requested player-submitted graphics be used in other holidays. (Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving, etc.) Why not Onnet?

Notice I never addressed the graphics team as "lazy." Believe me, I understand what it is to be busy. (I'm both a full time student and I have a full time job) The brief time I had worked on Delteria I stayed up until 2:00 AM to put hours in. And I know that around Christmas time many highschool and college students have midterms/finals to study for, myself included. And on that note I'm going back to studying.

Onnet is holiday themed, pretty sure that the christmas gifts arent.

I don't think he was using "low staff" as an insult, just using it to differentiate workers from management.

Ignore the complaints and read this post
This Is a good onnet
Their are all sorts of nice hats and items sold
Its well done

If your asking for originilaity ....just think bout christmas
pretty much everything christmas related has been made
So why are you blaming them for making a new santa hat?

You said that with such certainty though, that it would resolve all the issues you seem to have with the Onnet content.

No it doesn't. Quantity != Quality. There really weren't all that many useable submissions. It's a really low ration of submissions:accepted.
Sorting through all the submissions is a job in itself. It's just not a huge viable thing to do this for every single content release just for a handful of actual useable content.

Because it's for the Christmas presents, not Onnet. It's as simple as that. Christmas needs a lot of content so players get a diverse variety of items from presents, and more important that the presents be diverse than adding a few more items to an already pretty stocked shop release.


I never implied you did? All I'm saying is that despite there being 12 graphics members it doesn't necessarily correlate to the workload people would assume 12 working staff would do because of the reasons I listed.

Only Issue I have is the fact that old VIP items are being sold I can careless for the Holiday Present Morph but the Elf was giving to the Players of December from last year. No reason to resell it. Just proves Vip isn't really about a item only giving out onces with a month time of getting it.

Vip is now really only about the Colors and the Island

I think of you want to resell an item, edit or recolor it in such way the old one is clearly different from the new one.

why bother reselling it then?

Ask Rockstar with GTA

well i guess they wanted to give a chance to the newer players to get good morphs

Because new players get their item and old player keep their exlusivity.

Haaaaa.

why not make a player hatshop like iEra has?. So that people can submit hats and the admins can decides which hat to sell for a year as long it doesn't look like a 1k hat, that would be a cool idea o3o/

#pleaseresellheadphonescuzIalwayswantone

wasnt headphone hat event hat?

I have a brain hat <3

So many of you are worried about the hats not being original when you should really be worried about how small Graal is nowadays,it'd be pretty cool if we got more land to travel on instead of see the land disappearing.

New areas are no good if there isn't content to go with them. Content takes a while to make.

Why not open a new place with no content so people can roleplay there
and be exited that a new place was added

In the meantime you can add new content and stuff
itl get people more exited and for longuer

If it had no content, people would immediately get bored and abandon it.

There has to be some kind of content if a new area is released.

I'd love a place to roleplay on classic, i would probably play more actively like i used to :]

Anime-land. (lol)

I want more guild oriented activities, mainly for the family guilds that don't like to tower (of course towering guilds could participate as well, it's just that family guilds who choose not to tower don't have much to do on graal as a group (other than guild spar, which is only a five person thing.) Towering guilds have both towering and guild spar.)

Maybe quests that can only be accomplished as a guild, it would promote more teamwork. Also I have recommended a guild CTF, even though I've been told it can be remade in a guild house (I honestly don't know how though.)

I think the old event, freeze tag, would be cool if it was made into a guild activity, similar to how CTF worked where basically you pay a small amount of gralats to play, and basically it's freeze tag for guilds.

tl;dr more guild oriented quests/activities

Nope

some players do love role playing areas for example, if you made a mountain with nothing on it and anounced it was made people would chek it out and abandon it but a small group would stay and rp there , mountain rp.

Later they will then add some new content and anounce it and slowly the new town will be populated.

Adding new places with no content atleast enlarges the map which gives people more space.

No one is going to sit there and "mountain roleplay" lmao, truth is everyone would complain they are wasting time on useless content and would stick to towering/afk'ing.

It would be cool to add some new guild features, guilds in iClassic are utterly useless and mean nothing at this point.

i would and around 200 other players would

Building a town takes this


1. building it
At this stage it can be opened but only role players will stick around there.

2. giving it content
Some players may check on it once in a while and buy stuff from shops
usualy when towns open up

3. giving it content worth coming back like onnets archery and yorks pyrat quest
A good amount of players will be there but itl remain deserted


How to boost the population:
Put it on map
Make a tower in it

You forgot to add in a hat shop lol.

thats part of adding content not worth returning for :p

Majority of players care about hats, mounts, and items. Small percentage care about quests and activities.

Noobs

Revolution!

Too small? You got to be kidding me. Unless you are telling me that snowtown is crowded, you're wrong.

The whole entire map.

I don't think you know how much work and time this actually takes.

Judging on your signature and how you are "Latte's #1 Fan" I'm guessing you're 12. Btw MrSimons is her #1 fan.

Why cant classic just make a single player type campaign that you can do with other people, have a story line, and add in unique different weapons? Like the sword button has a hotbar like era and zones hotbar system and you can obtain different weapons that do different things from the campaign?

Because it's not Zone nor Era.

Use the "feedback" dummies. :3