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Alpho 12-06-2014 03:37 PM

Preview: Crafting
 
GraalOnline Ol'West Crafting

For the past 2 weeks I've been working constantly on programming a very complex crafting system (under the hood) so that it's very simple for all of you to use :) This system allows players to create limitless types of different items creatively and efficiently. Crafting will be released sometime this weekend or early next week. I hope all of you like it and can give some feedback :)

Coal, from mining, is used to keep the furnace lit. 1 coal is required for every item smelted in the furnace.


Ivy 12-06-2014 03:42 PM

Awesome!

Nopux 12-06-2014 03:45 PM

Seems easy and efficent hope you can craft some cool stuff with it :D

Shiz 12-06-2014 03:46 PM

This looks sick! Loving how you can make stuff. :)

Eugeen 12-06-2014 03:47 PM

Looks awesome Alpho, great job!
Will we be able to craft weapons like melees?

Alpho 12-06-2014 03:48 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 523683)
Looks awesome Alpho, great job!
Will we be able to craft weapons like melees?

Yes :) And tools

HeadJoker 12-06-2014 03:56 PM

Looks nice, good job :P

banshee123 12-06-2014 04:05 PM

Thooo tnt freebies still looks more efficient and less time consuming lol, tho its cool you can throw it over walls. im guessing that different types of pickaxes will be added to this project its pretty cool.

Alpho 12-06-2014 04:11 PM

Stronger items/tools and also furniture are able to be crafted as well :)

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Posted by banshee123 (Post 523688)
Thooo tnt freebies still looks more efficient and less time consuming lol, tho its cool you can throw it over walls. im guessing that different types of pickaxes will be added to this project its pretty cool.

Crafted bombs do more damage than tnt :) And yes, the crafted bombs are able to be thrown on anything!

Also, you can get wood from cutting trees :D

Isaac 12-06-2014 04:17 PM

Do the tools (hammer, saw, pliers, funnel) break? Also, how would one go about getting recipes?

banshee123 12-06-2014 04:20 PM

i think the inventory should be tuned up and personalized into backpacks would be cool to seperate tools from weapons and such

Alpho 12-06-2014 04:21 PM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 523693)
Do the tools (hammer, saw, pliers, funnel) break? Also, how would one go about getting recipes?

I haven't yet decided on if the tools should break or not, that is why I've posted this preview. Do you guys think they should break? Don't just say 'no' because of money problems. But in reality, should they break?

You can get recipes from a recipe shop and also from various NPCs throughout the server. Special seasonal recipes will also be available in limited quantities which allow crafting special limited items :)

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Posted by banshee123 (Post 523694)
i think the inventory should be tuned up and personalized into backpacks would be cool to seperate tools from weapons and such

Already have an idea for this, similar to yours, and will most likely be implementing something like this very soon.

Dawn 12-06-2014 04:27 PM

Add a tab to the guide book so noobs can understand crafting weapons(how to get coal, how to craft weapons)

Nopux 12-06-2014 04:32 PM

I think they should break after being use around 5-10 times depending on which tool it is.

Xenice 12-06-2014 04:37 PM

This is..... wow.... what.... I-I-I... AMAZING! Kudos to you, Alpho, for putting in effort and time in creating this. *claps*

I also found this bomb glitch, which may be used to bypass the need to craft bombs if it is implemented:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnUUulXpuyc

And... I might as well advertise my channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr_...gKrD2VNWK6fHRw

Alpho 12-06-2014 05:00 PM

Some recipes will be very rare, which makes it so players control how many of these items are in the game. Other recipes are purchasable from a Recipe Shop, and some others are found from various places around the map.

Powder 12-06-2014 05:06 PM

This is a huge step taken for Graal...

Alpho 12-06-2014 05:08 PM

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Posted by Powder (Post 523707)
This is a huge step taken for Graal...

:) There are limitless numbers of possibilities with this.

Brick 12-06-2014 05:28 PM

Once you use a recipe do you keep it forever?

Alpho 12-06-2014 05:44 PM

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Posted by Brick (Post 523716)
Once you use a recipe do you keep it forever?

However you obtain a recipe, it is tradable and un-craftable until you go in your inventory and press the button to add it to your recipe list. Once you add it to your list, it will be able to be crafted by you forever but is no longer tradable.

As for trading, this is not released yet. Trading will be released shortly after crafting is.

Trees are also able to be cut down with an axe which you can craft!

G Fatal 12-06-2014 05:51 PM

Wow, great job Alpho setting a new standard for graal!
It's great idea and goes with theme aswell, maybe also you could use the feathers etc you can collect could be used for skins on weapons in the future maybe? idk

Alpho 12-06-2014 06:13 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 523725)
Wow, great job Alpho setting a new standard for graal!
It's great idea and goes with theme aswell, maybe also you could use the feathers etc you can collect could be used for skins on weapons in the future maybe? idk

Maybe! There are a lot of ideas. Recipes are very easy to create from a developer's point of view too, so adding new craftable items takes seconds:) it just depends on how long it takes for graphics to get made.

Spirit19 12-06-2014 06:43 PM

Awesome. So many possibilities.

John. 12-06-2014 07:04 PM

Yeah, I think tools should break, but there should be one special/rare tool you can get which never breaks. You can balance it out by making it work slower or some de-buff, but it lasts forever.

Shiz 12-06-2014 07:10 PM

Tools should break until you get the chance to craft a gold tool. Gold tools never break then. o=

Xenice 12-06-2014 07:14 PM

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Posted by ShizGodsu (Post 523746)
Tools should break until you get the chance to craft a gold tool. Gold tools never break then. o=

Actually, gold tools should be the ones which break easily. :3. That's just my opinion - but yeah, having a tool which can be considered "rare" and "unbreakable" would be nice.

Shiz 12-06-2014 07:40 PM

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Posted by Xenice (Post 523747)
Actually, gold tools should be the ones which break easily. :3. That's just my opinion - but yeah, having a tool which can be considered "rare" and "unbreakable" would be nice.

Unless we introduced diamond. Haha.

banshee123 12-06-2014 08:06 PM

Lmfao why am I smelling runescape and minecraft

Xenice 12-06-2014 08:16 PM

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Posted by banshee123 (Post 523766)
Lmfao why am I smelling runescape and minecraft

Just because some games have crafting and smelting implemented, does not mean other games are limited to what they can have. For example, in WoW - you can smelt mined resources and craft things - similar to Minecraft and Runescape. There are hundreds of games out there which have crafting and smelting abilities.

Dawn 12-06-2014 08:16 PM

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Posted by ShizGodsu (Post 523746)
Tools should break until you get the chance to craft a gold tool. Gold tools never break then. o=

Gold is very weak in Minecraft almost worse than wood diamond tools should be the strongest tool

Shiz 12-06-2014 08:18 PM

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Posted by Dawn (Post 523768)
Gold is very weak in Minecraft almost worse than wood diamond tools should be the strongest tool

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Posted by ShizGodsu (Post 523751)
Unless we introduced diamond. Haha.

^^^

Xenice 12-06-2014 08:19 PM

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Posted by Dawn (Post 523768)
Gold is very weak in Minecraft almost worse than wood diamond tools should be the strongest tool

This isn't Minecraft, but yeah - pure gold is weak in real life.

Vladamir Blackthorne 12-06-2014 08:21 PM

Are there any craftable guns? I can imagine a recipe for sawing off the double barrel shotgun and such... But, like, what about actually making a new gun?

ivato 12-06-2014 08:21 PM

Some stuff should be easey to craft and break,some should be hard to craft extremely rare and unbreakable,also the limited time items shouldn't break,why not craft skins for guns that are rare or really expensive ,also incres the stats this will make more money and less guns in game sense in the OlWest there's was not that manny guns like now days.

Xenice 12-06-2014 08:39 PM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 523771)
Are there any craftable guns? I can imagine a recipe for sawing off the double barrel shotgun and such... But, like, what about actually making a new gun?

What I think is that the only craftable guns available at first would be the ones being sold - most of 'em anyway. When people get used to the crafting system, there would be guns (that aren't sold) available to craft.

This is just my opinion - hopefully Alpho will clear things up.

Hugop 12-06-2014 09:07 PM

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Posted by Alpho (Post 523674)
GraalOnline Ol'West Crafting

For the past 2 weeks I've been working constantly on programming a very complex crafting system (under the hood) so that it's very simple for all of you to use :) This system allows players to create limitless types of different items creatively and efficiently. Crafting will be released sometime this weekend or early next week. I hope all of you like it and can give some feedback :)

Coal, from mining, is used to keep the furnace lit. 1 coal is required for every item smelted in the furnace.


Furiture too? =o

ChibiArtist 12-06-2014 09:30 PM

Yas yas yas yas yas yas yas OH MAI GAD THIS MAKES IT LIKE MINECRAFT AND I LIKE THAT ermahgerddddddddd
I can't wait!!!

Alpho 12-07-2014 12:15 AM

Quote:

Posted by Xenice (Post 523747)
Actually, gold tools should be the ones which break easily. :3. That's just my opinion - but yeah, having a tool which can be considered "rare" and "unbreakable" would be nice.

Gold tools cost more because they're shiney! They're also more powerful than wood but break quicker because it's a really soft metal.

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Posted by Xenice (Post 523777)
What I think is that the only craftable guns available at first would be the ones being sold - most of 'em anyway. When people get used to the crafting system, there would be guns (that aren't sold) available to craft.

This is just my opinion - hopefully Alpho will clear things up.

Yes some guns will be craftable:)! More like you craft "gun parts" then craft the parts together.

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Posted by Hugop (Post 523787)
Furiture too? =o

Yes:)

Vladamir Blackthorne 12-07-2014 01:46 AM

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Posted by Alpho (Post 523846)
Yes some guns will be craftable:)! More like you craft "gun parts" then craft the parts together.

Okay, yeah, that obviously makes more sense than forging a gun out of a solid bar of metal or something.



Now, I wonder if this golden gun I've seen around is something craftable...

Ryan 12-07-2014 02:13 AM

This is awesome! You're truly one of the best alpho

Raven Ventus* 12-07-2014 02:35 AM

Wow it is becoming like Minecraft lul but it is like too few item to be craft out.

Shiz 12-07-2014 02:59 AM

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Posted by Raven Ventus* (Post 523871)
Wow it is becoming like Minecraft lul but it is like too few item to be craft out.

More items will be added in the future.

Vladamir Blackthorne 12-07-2014 03:01 AM

Make sure crafted furniture can be sold for a profit much larger than what the resources put into it are worth. That way money can be guaranteed to be earned at least in some fashion with this.

ToshiHiro* 12-07-2014 05:18 AM

Finally crafting will be release on iOS server

Vladamir Blackthorne 12-07-2014 06:10 AM

So how many recipes are there going to be at first? How many will be weapons? Will there be some sort of craftable commodities we can trade when trading is released?

ToshiHiro* 12-07-2014 06:13 AM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 523909)
So how many recipes are there going to be at first? How many will be weapons? Will there be some sort of craftable commodities we can trade when trading is released?

Yes, as I heard the recipes will be tradeable if you haven't added it to your recipe list yet. once you added your recipe to the list, you can't trade it anymore.

Vladamir Blackthorne 12-07-2014 06:28 AM

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Posted by ToshiHiro* (Post 523910)
Yes, as I heard the recipes will be tradeable if you haven't added it to your recipe list yet. once you added your recipe to the list, you can't trade it anymore.

That isn't what I asked...

ToshiHiro* 12-07-2014 06:46 AM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 523914)
That isn't what I asked...

apology, misreaded

Vladamir Blackthorne 12-07-2014 08:45 AM

I hope this comes out some time today. I ran out of things to do besides grind for gralats. Everyone is either riding around on a horse being cheap with a big 10k gun or running away from fights, and barely anyone spars.

LeNoobicus 12-07-2014 12:18 PM

Better stack up on minerals on this one! :o

Waaaaaait. The vid does not explain how to get the recepies :p How then?


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