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Common Sense 12-06-2014 10:37 PM

Disney Announces, ‘Princes’, First Film With Openly Gay Characters.
 
"Disney has announced that it will be producing its first animated feature film with two openly gay lead characters who will fall in love and, by the end of the film, even find happiness in a fairytale, same-sex wedding. The film, titled Princes, will be released to theaters in the fall of 2015."

So yeah, apparently Disney is releasing an animated movie about two gay guys in 2015. What do you guys think about this? I don't mean how you think the movie will work out, but do you think Disney is taking a step forward (or backwards?) with this movie? How do you think the public will react?

Source: http://www.amplifyingglass.com/disne...gay-animation/

MrSimons 12-06-2014 11:17 PM

I guess Im just stating the obvious, but don't think the film will do very well, and it probably will get a ton of hate. Good on Disney for promoting same sex, but imo its not a good idea.

kenthefruit 12-06-2014 11:39 PM

Pretty sure this is fake, not positive though.

Shmegg 12-07-2014 12:57 AM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 523811)
Pretty sure this is fake, not positive though.

Snopes says it's false.

:-(

Dawn 12-07-2014 01:01 AM

If this is a kids movie they will probably hide the fact that it is about gay marriage(like frozen).

5hift 12-07-2014 01:02 AM

Yeah I've got to come to question the legitimacy of this.

While gay marriage is becoming more accepted throughout the world, I highly doubt it's time to start making ****ing Disney movies concerning the topic.

However, since this generation is more aware of homosexuality, I'm sure in the future this'll be a thing.

iChronic 12-07-2014 01:09 AM

congrats Op, your first lead role bro?

kenthefruit 12-07-2014 02:06 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 523843)
congrats Op, your first lead role bro?

wow so funny!! haha i wish i could b like you!

Tyler 12-07-2014 02:08 AM

I'm glad this is fake.

optimuswhat 12-07-2014 02:10 AM

I was hoping it was real to see the feedback of the movie.

Fysez 12-07-2014 02:32 AM

I saw this on Facebook a few months ago.
It was announced false the same day.

Also glad it's false, children don't need to see something like that.

Ghettoicedtea 12-07-2014 02:47 AM

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/.../ultra-gay.png

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Posted by Fysez (Post 523859)
children don't need to see something like that.

uh oh here comes the social justice keyboard warriors coming after you

Fysez 12-07-2014 05:32 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 523863)
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/.../ultra-gay.png



uh oh here comes the social justice keyboard warriors coming after you

Well this generation is also very aware of sex, which is why a lot of kids are talking about it, and even getting pregnant at a young age.
Does this mean Disney should start making porn for children?

iChronic 12-07-2014 06:08 AM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 523889)
Well this generation is also very aware of sex, which is why a lot of kids are talking about it, and even getting pregnant at a young age.
Does this mean Disney should start making porn for children?

i dont understand, so why are u against the movie???

if youre gonna be against something, at least have a well rounded argument/reason, bruhh

i totally respect your opinion, i just dont understand your reasoning, confusing af, bruhh


edit:

someone actually post their clear opinion on this, im pretty interested

MrSimons 12-07-2014 06:18 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 523863)
uh oh here comes the social justice keyboard warriors coming after you

Don't see reason for someone to disagree with him. There is literally no reason that would justify Disney making a movie on same sex relationships. All it would do would cause controversy and perverse the whole thing. There is really no need for Disney to tell children "it is okay to be gay".

Plus if they lived in the times of Princes they would not get happily married, they would be burned at the stake for being homosexual abominations.

Tyler 12-07-2014 06:20 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 523895)
i dont understand, so why are u against the movie???

if youre gonna be against something, at least have a well rounded argument/reason, bruhh

i totally respect your opinion, i just dont understand your reasoning, confusing af, bruhh


edit:

someone actually post their clear opinion on this, im pretty interested

I believe their point is relating to the fact that sex is a more casually discussed topic and activity before marriage these days. Homosexuality being a more accepted thing too, would it be alright for Disney movies to start showing casual sex as normal? That's just what I'm seeing there.

iChronic 12-07-2014 08:32 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 523901)
>perverse the whole thing.

>they would be burned at the stake for being homosexual abominations.

ye


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Posted by Tyler (Post 523904)
I believe their point is relating to the fact that sex is a more casually discussed topic and activity before marriage these days. Homosexuality being a more accepted thing too, would it be alright for Disney movies to start showing casual sex as normal? That's just what I'm seeing there.

theres no discrimination against sex though? i think the whole project just aims to reduce the stigma associated with homosexuals (and ppl who are non-heterosexual in general)

GOAT 12-07-2014 09:16 AM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 523859)
Also glad it's false, children don't need to see something like that.

How do you combat ignorance? Education? People that are against homosexuality don't have to teach their kids that it's 'ok' to be gay, but it is important that they teach them not to judge others for being "different".


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Posted by Fysez (Post 523889)
Does this mean Disney should start making porn for children?

Hey Skill, I want to read your thoughts on this :P


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Posted by iChronic (Post 523895)
i dont understand, so why are u against the movie???

if youre gonna be against something, at least have a well rounded argument/reason, bruhh

i totally respect your opinion, i just dont understand your reasoning, confusing af, bruhh

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 523901)
Don't see reason for someone to disagree with him. There is literally no reason that would justify Disney making a movie on same sex relationships. All it would do would cause controversy and perverse the whole thing. There is really no need for Disney to tell children "it is okay to be gay".

WTF? I thought she was a girl. Are these gender confusions a troll?:angry::'(:'(

Common Sense 12-07-2014 02:29 PM

Well apparently it's fake, which is a shame, because I would've liked to see how this movie would've done.

Of course there will three different sides, one who says "Great job Disney!", another who will say "WTF Disney? Why are they gay? That's so gross.", and then another who will say "Great movie, but I don't know if my children should be exposed to this."

I think it would be a good way to inform children about same-sex marriage without actually telling them about same-sex marriage. Hopefully this will be implemented one day.

The Doctor 12-07-2014 04:54 PM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 523904)
I believe their point is relating to the fact that sex is a more casually discussed topic and activity before marriage these days. Homosexuality being a more accepted thing too, would it be alright for Disney movies to start showing casual sex as normal? That's just what I'm seeing there.

Who ever brought porn into same-sex marriage? With that logic, one could argue that all marriages in every disney movie should be banned. Obviously, marriages and kissing are the same thing as sex. Don't bring your kids to your wedding!

Anyway, plenty of teenagers and adults today are bigoted against and made fun of for the way they are. I think this movie would be a great message, saying that homosexuals are only human and we should treat them normally.

Tyler 12-07-2014 05:09 PM

Not sure why I'm being quoted. I was just attempting to clarify their argument (still not really sure if I know what they're saying). I don't support their reasoning for not making this movie, but am still opposed to it myself.

Kuuga 12-07-2014 05:15 PM

I'd be for it..but it seems like they would be catering to the internet social justice warriors more then anything else.
It would be like giving Anita S. her own Video Game to make for the modern Gen consoles.
"No."

MattKan 12-07-2014 05:23 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 523901)
Don't see reason for someone to disagree with him. There is literally no reason that would justify Disney making a movie on same sex relationships. All it would do would cause controversy and perverse the whole thing. There is really no need for Disney to tell children "it is okay to be gay".

Plus if they lived in the times of Princes they would not get happily married, they would be burned at the stake for being homosexual abominations.

Well it's not as if Disney doesn't already romanticize the crap out of everything in the feudal era.

Kendama 12-07-2014 07:33 PM

Sounds like an uncomfortable situation to be in, to have your young male toddlers begging you to take you to go see the new gay disney movie.

Imprint 12-07-2014 07:55 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 523901)
All it would do would cause controversy and perverse the whole thing.

Wat. How would a movie with gay protagonists be more perverse than any other movie?

iChronic 12-07-2014 08:45 PM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 524018)
Who ever brought porn into same-sex marriage? With that logic, one could argue that all marriages in every disney movie should be banned. Obviously, marriages and kissing are the same thing as sex. Don't bring your kids to your wedding!

IT WAS FYSEZ

LOL

HappyCat123 12-07-2014 11:15 PM

lol gay

MattKan 12-07-2014 11:22 PM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 524018)
Don't bring your kids to your wedding!

Ideally not

Rufus 12-07-2014 11:56 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 523901)
Plus if they lived in the times of Princes they would not get happily married, they would be burned at the stake for being homosexual abominations.

Not necessarily. There is a huge range of cultures used in Disney movies, and if you look at the history of Greek or Japanese cultures there is a strong tradition of homosexuality in leaders and ordinary men.

Ghettoicedtea 12-08-2014 12:04 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 524166)
Not necessarily. There is a huge range of cultures used in Disney movies, and if you look at the history of Greek or Japanese cultures there is a strong tradition of homosexuality in leaders and ordinary men.

and beastiality, especially ancient greece

Skill 12-08-2014 12:51 AM

Pretty obvious it's fake.

Creating a film for the sake of making a political statement isn't in the interest of a large-scale public corporation, that has a heavy demographic of conservative audiences. Making a controversial film would eat into profits due to potential boycotting of other products.

Also, I'm sure that if it was real, it would be a poor movie. I don't have anything against same-sex marriage, but I feel like if a movie was created for the purpose of having same sex couples, it would be rather lacking in story. IMO it would need a main story to it(adventure and whatnot), and the whole romance thing would need to be a side element. Creating it as the sole purpose of the plot would make it feel quite generic, lacking, and overall boring.

MattKan 12-08-2014 01:45 AM

You're assuming that the gay couple would be the sole purpose of the movie. Nowhere does it say that.

Ryan 12-08-2014 01:54 AM

Yeah it's fake

MrSimons 12-08-2014 02:10 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 524107)
Wat. How would a movie with gay protagonists be more perverse than any other movie?

I wasn't suggesting that the movie itself would, I was saying the media around it would end up making it out as something much more perverse.

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Posted by Rufus (Post 524166)
Not necessarily. There is a huge range of cultures used in Disney movies, and if you look at the history of Greek or Japanese cultures there is a strong tradition of homosexuality in leaders and ordinary men.

That part of my post was overall sarcastic.

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Posted by Ryan (Post 524216)
Yeah it's fake

thanks.

kenthefruit 12-08-2014 02:13 AM

The "fake" movie was supposed to take after some book. The plot being two Princes going to save a Princess but along the way they fall in love with each other rather than the princess.

MrSimons 12-08-2014 02:15 AM

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Posted by kenovo (Post 524219)
The "fake" movie was supposed to take after some book. The plot being two Princes going to save a Princess but along the way they fall in love with each other rather than the princess.

Must be one ugly princess.

5hift 12-08-2014 02:56 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 524166)
Not necessarily. There is a huge range of cultures used in Disney movies, and if you look at the history of Greek or Japanese cultures there is a strong tradition of homosexuality in leaders and ordinary men.

But you do realize how incredibly sexist most of not all Disney movies are towards women regardless of culture.

Just look at Mulan...

It'd be one hell of a twist if Disney pushed out this kind of movie and honestly, I don't think society would be able to handle it. (Lol)

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Posted by kenovo (Post 524219)
The "fake" movie was supposed to take after some book. The plot being two Princes going to save a Princess but along the way they fall in love with each other rather than the princess.

Thought it was going to be an alternate ending to Frozen :(

Fysez 12-08-2014 03:53 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 523934)
WTF? I thought she was a girl. Are these gender confusions a troll?:angry::'(:'(

I'm female.
I just don't care enough when someone says "he" or "him" to correct them, since we all know what he or she meant when they said something anyways.

Skill 12-08-2014 04:34 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 524212)
You're assuming that the gay couple would be the sole purpose of the movie. Nowhere does it say that.

Nowhere did it mention any other aspect of the plot. If this is the primary attracting feature of the movie, why would I want to go see it?

besides: http://www.amplifyingglass.com/category/satire/

Talon 12-08-2014 04:42 AM

Would have lol'd if this were real. Yay for political correctness.

Crono 12-08-2014 02:32 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 524166)
Not necessarily. There is a huge range of cultures used in Disney movies, and if you look at the history of Greek or Japanese cultures there is a strong tradition of homosexuality in leaders and ordinary men.

that's pretty gay man

Hadzz 12-08-2014 04:35 PM

Arent most boys at that age not interested in romance ?It seems a bit idiotic to create a film in which most males would be discriminated against for viewing and so not only would the target audience yet again be reduced but be more likely to add to the numbers of homophobes . i highly doubt disney have any plans for directly promoting homosexuality in the film industry in the recent future.

Fysez 12-08-2014 05:39 PM

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Posted by Hadzz (Post 524410)
Arent most boys at that age not interested in romance ?

I don't think anyone, including females, are interested in romance at such a young age.
However, if you grow up watching shows, movies, experiences, etc. on male-female relationships, they'll most likely grow up liking the opposite sex.

Spirit19 12-08-2014 05:56 PM

Being that only 2% of the world is gay I don't think it would get a lot of "high praise". Definitely not #1 movie in America material.

Crono 12-08-2014 05:57 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 524234)
But you do realize how incredibly sexist most of not all Disney movies are towards women regardless of culture.

Just look at Mulan...

It'd be one hell of a twist if Disney pushed out this kind of movie and honestly, I don't think society would be able to handle it. (Lol)

You're right, to make it more realistic they should have depicted more rape and forced marriage.

Hadzz 12-08-2014 06:09 PM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 524430)
I don't think anyone, including females, are interested in romance at such a young age.
However, if you grow up watching shows, movies, experiences, etc. on male-female relationships, they'll most likely grow up liking the opposite sex.

Certainly seemed that way in my primary.

GOAT 12-08-2014 06:43 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 524170)
and beastiality, especially ancient greece

You know the weirdest things


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Posted by Fysez (Post 524430)
I don't think anyone, including females, are interested in romance at such a young age.

Depends what you mean by young age. I remember taking off with a girl when I was like 10 to "make out", I didn't have a clue what I was doing, but I know I was happy. It was funny because all we did was held our lips together for like a minute at a time. The point being that I was already interested in girls.

I also know a woman that became a grandmother before she was 30. Do the math and it's very young.



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Posted by Spirit19 (Post 524432)
Being that only 2% of the world is gay I don't think it would get a lot of "high praise". Definitely not #1 movie in America material.

The thing is that the 2% doesn't include all the dudes that are trapped in the closet like Rufus and Ash Ketchup.

Ghettoicedtea 12-08-2014 07:24 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 524449)
You know the weirdest things

i swear to god i remember all the weirdest **** ever yet i rarely remember anything important that i need to know.

kenthefruit 12-09-2014 02:55 AM

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Posted by Fysez (Post 524430)
I don't think anyone, including females, are interested in romance at such a young age.
However, if you grow up watching shows, movies, experiences, etc. on male-female relationships, they'll most likely grow up liking the opposite sex.

lol you honestly think such little things like that determines whether your gay or not?

Kiwi 12-09-2014 02:59 AM

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Posted by Spirit19 (Post 524432)
Being that only 2% of the world is gay I don't think it would get a lot of "high praise". Definitely not #1 movie in America material.

lmao going off what you say, 2% of the world's population is still 142 million people - more than high enough to warrant positive representation

I don't know why you all assume that a movie like this would only have interest for gay people anyway; that's like saying the world wouldn't buy into frozen, because not everyone is a woman and has a sister with magic ice powers


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