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Isaac 12-17-2014 05:15 AM

Phone troubles & jobs
 
Can't convince parents to get me a phone, they don't like contracts or monthly payments.

So, I am planning on doing what I can to get together some money to get myself a phone; any recommendations? This is something that I'd be stuck with for a while (in high school, not loaded with money to buy new phones shat out by manufacturers every 2 days), so I'm asking for recommendations of high-end "flagship" phones that will be/are able to compare for some time hardware/software-wise to other phones released in the future.

(Currently leaning towards the Oneplus One or HTC One m8)

Also, suggestions for how to pull together around $300-800 for a phone? 15 years old, high school student. Can't convince my parents to let me get a job, either. ****.

MrSimons 12-17-2014 05:16 AM

Get new parents.

Isaac 12-17-2014 05:18 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 527492)
Get new parents.

My friend didn't want a phone, and his mom forced him to get an iPhone.

The best I can get out of my parents is a pay-as-you-go flip phone from CVS Pharmacy for "emergencies only".

:(

MrSimons 12-17-2014 06:13 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527493)
My friend didn't want a phone, and his mom forced him to get an iPhone.

The best I can get out of my parents is a pay-as-you-go flip phone from CVS Pharmacy for "emergencies only".

:(

>kill parents
>kill friend
>steal friend's parents
>get phone

GOAT 12-17-2014 06:27 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527491)
Also, suggestions for how to pull together around $300-800 for a phone? 15 years old, high school student. Can't convince my parents to let me get a job, either. ****.

Make a codeshop/maze in your backyard with some noody magazines at the finish. Then go to the front of your house and advertise your maze. $2 per person

Kuuga 12-17-2014 07:23 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 527497)
>kill parents
>kill friend
>steal friend's parents
>get phone

He's asking a question. Maybe you could be nice enough to actually make a valid post.



Anyways,

@Isaac,
I'd recommend just at least helping put others (cutting lawns, pulling weeds, etc.)
Honestly, they will probably pay you well.

Cookie Xanadu 12-17-2014 12:35 PM

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Posted by Kuuga (Post 527512)
He's asking a question. Maybe you could be nice enough to actually make a valid post.



Anyways,

@Isaac,
I'd recommend just at least helping put others (cutting lawns, pulling weeds, etc.)
Honestly, they will probably pay you well.

Typically 20-30$ and sometimes not worth it time-wise as it could take 1-4 hours (Our min. Wage is 10.55$/h anyways)

Honestly, you people amaze me how you must have the latest thing that your parents pay for. It sickens me really, but on the brightside, you're willing to work for it, so I'll give you that. I suggest snow shoveling if possible. Doesn't usually take long and typically, depending on length and how many areas, can pay as high as 50$. Or you could aleays try doing art comissions. Another is posting ads online that states you're looking to do menial things like mowing, shovelling, etc.

I used to be a pseudo-massuse and made a little bit of cash by word of mouth. Good luck guys

Myst 12-17-2014 12:43 PM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527493)
My friend didn't want a phone, and his mom forced him to get an iPhone.

The best I can get out of my parents is a pay-as-you-go flip phone from CVS Pharmacy for "emergencies only".

:(

appreciate what you have bud.

Cookie Xanadu 12-17-2014 01:13 PM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527542)
appreciate what you have bud.

You

I like you

Crono 12-17-2014 02:56 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 527550)
You

I like you

reddit *** detected

alternatively: this guy gets it

Cookie Xanadu 12-17-2014 03:01 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 527565)
reddit *** detected

alternatively: this guy gets it

You sting so bad but hurt so good
:(:(:(:(

Crono 12-17-2014 06:20 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 527569)
You sting so bad but hurt so good
:(:(:(:(

have le upboats XD

Cookie Xanadu 12-17-2014 06:36 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 527611)
have le upboats XD

Chrono bae, pls. pls stop

5hift 12-17-2014 07:11 PM

Give it a couple more years for your parents to realize how inconvenient it is to not have you carry a phone.

Isaac 12-17-2014 11:01 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 527540)
Typically 20-30$ and sometimes not worth it time-wise as it could take 1-4 hours (Our min. Wage is 10.55$/h anyways)

Honestly, you people amaze me how you must have the latest thing that your parents pay for. It sickens me really, but on the brightside, you're willing to work for it, so I'll give you that. I suggest snow shoveling if possible. Doesn't usually take long and typically, depending on length and how many areas, can pay as high as 50$. Or you could aleays try doing art comissions. Another is posting ads online that states you're looking to do menial things like mowing, shovelling, etc.

I used to be a pseudo-massuse and made a little bit of cash by word of mouth. Good luck guys

I just want a phone that'll be considered a "flagship" for a few years, not to be replaced every few months, just want it for help making new friends (I'm incredibly awkward in social situations). Snow shoveling isn't an option in southern California. Only art I can make is some amateur pixel art, so art commissions is an ehh.

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Posted by 5hift (Post 527632)
Give it a couple more years for your parents to realize how inconvenient it is to not have you carry a phone.

Oh, they just use landlines and terrible old Nokia "bricks" that get very little to no use out of them.

Also the issue with the $7 drugstore flipphone for calling them or the cops, don't want a phone that I'd be embarrassed to be seen in public with.

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Posted by Myst (Post 527542)
appreciate what you have bud.

As if there's no material goods you want.

Argoney 12-17-2014 11:17 PM

I am that friend and I wasn't forced to get a phone, I chose to. Know your information before posting. What you should be doing is working at CVS, accept payment in the form of cell phones, gather up a lot of cell phone, and sell them on any website that you can sell new/old phones. Then you make mad money. And please don't kill me and take my parents...

Isaac 12-17-2014 11:32 PM

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Posted by Argoney (Post 527703)
I am that friend and I wasn't forced to get a phone, I chose to. Know your information before posting. What you should be doing is working at CVS, accept payment in the form of cell phones, gather up a lot of cell phone, and sell them on any website that you can sell new/old phones. Then you make mad money. And please don't kill me and take my parents...

Your mom chose to buy you a phone, you didn't ask for one...

Also, I don't think that's how payment works.

Kuuga 12-17-2014 11:56 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 527632)
Give it a couple more years for your parents to realize how inconvenient it is to not have you carry a phone.

That's true.
My brother basically had that going for him.

Isaac 12-18-2014 12:21 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 527632)
Give it a couple more years for your parents to realize how inconvenient it is to not have you carry a phone.

Adding on to what I said earlier; I'll be out of the house in 2-3 years and off to college; lol.

Cookie Xanadu 12-18-2014 12:24 AM

Jesus man, you shouldn't bother with trying to get dat dank new phawn 2 be kool with a capital k-k-k-erino.

Isaac 12-18-2014 12:28 AM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 527733)
Jesus man, you shouldn't bother with trying to get dat dank new phawn 2 be kool with a capital k-k-k-erino.

Capital k-k-k? No thanks.

Myst 12-18-2014 01:51 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527688)
I just want a phone that'll be considered a "flagship" for a few years, not to be replaced every few months, just want it for help making new friends (I'm incredibly awkward in social situations). Snow shoveling isn't an option in southern California. Only art I can make is some amateur pixel art, so art commissions is an ehh.



Oh, they just use landlines and terrible old Nokia "bricks" that get very little to no use out of them.

Also the issue with the $7 drugstore flipphone for calling them or the cops, don't want a phone that I'd be embarrassed to be seen in public with.



As if there's no material goods you want.

of course there are, but you don't see making a thread about such a minuscule thing.

Isaac 12-18-2014 02:35 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527745)
of course there are, but you don't see making a thread about such a minuscule thing.

Just asking for advice. Just as "minuscule" as anyone else asking for life advice or advice on what to buy.

Myst 12-18-2014 02:58 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527767)
Just asking for advice. Just as "minuscule" as anyone else asking for life advice or advice on what to buy.

your complaining about getting something.. life advice my ass.

Isaac 12-18-2014 03:54 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527772)
your complaining about getting something.. life advice my ass.

Yes, asking for advice on how to go about pulling together some money (legally) is asking for life advice.

Also, you're* ;)

Kuuga 12-18-2014 04:01 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527772)
your complaining about getting something.. life advice my ass.

Whatever.
Why do you feel the need to break the thread? It's pointless.

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527731)
Adding on to what I said earlier; I'll be out of the house in 2-3 years and off to college; lol.

Hm.
If you want to, you could get an Apple Device and JB it. Or whatever you prefer interface wise.

Myst 12-18-2014 04:04 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527783)
Yes, asking for advice on how to go about pulling together some money (legally) is asking for life advice.

Also, you're* ;)

that's the added part of your thread, the majority is expressing your anguish because you aren't getting what you want.

Isaac 12-18-2014 04:13 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527787)
that's the added part of your thread, the majority is expressing your anguish because you aren't getting what you want.

Yes, and I have the drive to work for what I want, simply asking for advice as to what phone I should save for such that I won't have to worry about it being considered "obsolete" in only a few months; and how I should go about getting the sum of money to purchase said phone. It's not like I'm sitting here complaining without being willing to work for what I want.

It's the American Dream.

Isaac 12-18-2014 04:22 AM

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Posted by Kuuga (Post 527785)
Hm.
If you want to, you could get an Apple Device and JB it. Or whatever you prefer interface wise.

Apple's devices are even more pricey than other manufacturers' devices, and become obsolete even faster.

Plus, I'd rather not have to tamper so much with the software to be able to reach the level of customization that I desire.

I'd consider buying myself an iPhone only if my other options were significantly worse hardware-wise; but most other devices tend to have better specs than the iPhone at a lower/similar price (see: Oneplus One, HTC One m8, Sony Xperia Z3, Moto X, Samsung Galaxy Note 4, etc.)

Myst 12-18-2014 04:31 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527791)
Yes, and I have the drive to work for what I want, simply asking for advice as to what phone I should save for such that I won't have to worry about it being considered "obsolete" in only a few months; and how I should go about getting the sum of money to purchase said phone. It's not like I'm sitting here complaining without being willing to work for what I want.

It's the American Dream.

get a job then you lazy ass.

Isaac 12-18-2014 04:52 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527795)
get a job then you lazy ass.

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Posted by Isaac
15 years old, high school student. Can't convince my parents to let me get a job, either.

l2r

Myst 12-18-2014 05:00 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527801)
l2r

you're like so independent :sarcastic:

Isaac 12-18-2014 05:06 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527804)
you're like so independent :sarcastic:

Would need their signatures on paperwork to get a job, so their permission is pretty much the deciding factor in that.

Myst 12-18-2014 05:11 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527807)
Would need their signatures on paperwork to get a job, so their permission is pretty much the deciding factor in that.

Not all jobs require you're parents signature.

Isaac 12-18-2014 05:13 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527810)
Not all jobs require you're parents signature.

If I'm trying to work at a store, movie theater, etc. I would need their approval, because I'm 15.

Myst 12-18-2014 05:16 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527812)
If I'm trying to work at a store, movie theater, etc. I would need their approval, because I'm 15.

when i got my job at a clothing store a few years ago i was 15, no permission was required..maybe i just work at a dodgy store though :'(

Isaac 12-18-2014 05:22 AM

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Posted by Myst (Post 527814)
when i got my job at a clothing store a few years ago i was 15, no permission was required..maybe i just work at a dodgy store though :'(

What country/state of the US (if you live in the US) do you live in? I'm not 100% sure about all the laws regarding jobs for minors even in my state, most of it I've heard by talking to peers.

Myst 12-18-2014 06:08 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527820)
What country/state of the US (if you live in the US) do you live in? I'm not 100% sure about all the laws regarding jobs for minors even in my state, most of it I've heard by talking to peers.

Australia

Jared9 12-18-2014 06:32 AM

My brother who was 13 got a part-time job at a cafe and didn't need to have a resume or anything, just went down on the weekend for a while and got paid at the end.

Common Sense 12-18-2014 02:57 PM

Do what I did: make a pros and cons list of having a phone and show it to your parents, and have a serious conversation with them. Tell them that you're getting older and you deserve a phone. I assume you go out to places with friends, so tell your parents that you may need to call them if an emergency happens and you need them to pick you up, or if there's an emergency at school and you need them to pick you up right away.

I didn't get a phone until the eighth grade because my parents didn't think I needed one, but I ended up getting one for Christmas that same year. For me it was harder to convince them to get me a phone since I was in junior high, but it should be easier for you to since you're already in high school.

If you're parents are THAT difficult to convince, tell them that you'll pay for half of it if they pay the other half. Compromise with them.

hosler 12-18-2014 06:19 PM

Off brand BLU phones are cheap and good. I like mine

Isaac 12-19-2014 01:45 AM

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Posted by hosler (Post 527907)
Off brand BLU phones are cheap and good. I like mine

Which phone of theirs do you use? Looking at the Dash 5.5, its specs are far below average (5mp back camera, 4 GB internal storage, 512 MB RAM, 1.3GHz processor, etc). Then again, the price is around $120 off-contract, which is cheap, but you get what you pay for.

I'm looking at the Sharp Aquos Crystal, which has a unique design (no top or side bezels, camera on bottom bezel) and is prepaid (pay-as-you-go, essentially). Page on Best Buy

However, I'm still leaning much closer to saving further for a higher-end device.

hosler 12-19-2014 02:23 AM

shop for BLU on amazon. way cheaper.

Kendama 12-19-2014 03:23 AM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527688)
I just want a phone that'll be considered a "flagship" for a few years, not to be replaced every few months, just want it for help making new friends (I'm incredibly awkward in social situations). Snow shoveling isn't an option in southern California. Only art I can make is some amateur pixel art, so art commissions is an ehh.


Ok. First off, don't go down that road of trying to use social media, the internet, or a phone to make and manage friends. Many people do this these days. The truth of many is it becomes a lie that they tell even themselves. They build up all the pictures they have that make them look cool, and try to create a fake image of themselves in order to appear cool. It isn't cool, and they are in denial of who they truly are.

There is this badass at my school. He wears a leather jacket and rides a sportbike to school everyday. Nobody knows much about him except he is ripped and has scars all over himself. Nearly EVERYBODY in the school wants to be his friend, and the girls want the d. The only kid cooler than him in the school is Chandler Riggs.

This kid, doesn't have any social media or a phone.
Be this kid. You don't have to have the leather jacket and the bike, the muscles, the scars, or the mystery. Getting used to a phone puts up a social barrier that will affect your every day life.
Smartphones triple to affect. Everybody is a fake image of themselves over these things. It degrades mystery as well. It isn't cool, its become a quirk in society. People get used to staring at it and playing games for long period at a time. people get used to basing their flirting over text, and it breaks them down for the time when real social interaction comes...


TLDR: Next time someone asks you anything regarding you having a phone, tell them "I don't like phones so I don't have one.". they will probobaly ask why. Tell them- "staring at a screen bores me".
Thats cool as ****. I don't care what the other graalians have to say against me. They are all phone nerds. Even I like my phone, but I definetely notice its quirks and I enjoy going throughout my day without checking it or using it.

Money suggestions? Try offering 8/hr tutoring if you really know your stuff. Or learn magic. Ask people in downtown areas to bet you a couple dollars that you cannot do something. Use your magic, and win. Rinse and repeat and you can make normal wage money doing this.

Cookie Xanadu 12-19-2014 03:42 AM

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Posted by Kendama (Post 527984)
TLDR: Next time someone asks you anything regarding you having a phone, tell them "I don't like phones so I don't have one.". they will probobaly ask why. Tell them- "staring at a screen bores me".
Thats cool as ****. I don't care what the other graalians have to say against me. They are all phone nerds. Even I like my phone, but I definetely notice its quirks and I enjoy going throughout my day without checking it or using it.

I don't even have a phone. I find it annoying as all **** to see people constantly looking down at their phones while doing pretty well anything. Hell, it pisses me off greatly when people in mid-conversation just whip out their phone and start playing with it, texting, etc. Face to face interaction is best interaction.

HON3Y BADG3R 12-19-2014 06:58 PM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527491)
Also, suggestions for how to pull together around $300-800 for a phone? 15 years old, high school student. Can't convince my parents to let me get a job, either. ****.

Go mow some lawns, babysit, for gods sake the holidays are coming up! Don't buy anything and save it all for a phone.

Good arguing point is when you get a car and need to be picked up.

Sardon 12-19-2014 07:06 PM

I got a Ace II

Known to be the worst android in history

Cant even run flappy birds
or call the right person

iMask 12-19-2014 08:58 PM

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Posted by Isaac (Post 527966)
Which phone of theirs do you use? Looking at the Dash 5.5, its specs are far below average (5mp back camera, 4 GB internal storage, 512 MB RAM, 1.3GHz processor, etc). Then again, the price is around $120 off-contract, which is cheap, but you get what you pay for.

Ew.

512 MB of RAM will be your main problem. So will the 1.3GHZ processor if it's single core. You could get better for cheaper.

The Samsung Galaxy S3 is a great phone. Even after a year and a half, it still runs snappy and smooth.

Some specs of the I747 model are listed below (different models may have better or equal specs).

- 1.5GHZ Duel Core Processor
- 1.56GB of RAM
- 16 GB internal storage (SD Card slot included, up to 64GB)
- 4.9 inch screen size
- Sturdy (my opinion)
- Removable battery, could increase the battery up to 7000MAH.
- Runs Android 4.4.2
- Keyboard is responsive unlike other android ones

Vendetta 12-20-2014 01:05 PM

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Posted by iMask (Post 528139)
Ew.

512 MB of RAM will be your main problem. So will the 1.3GHZ processor if it's single core. You could get better for cheaper.

The Samsung Galaxy S3 is a great phone. Even after a year and a half, it still runs snappy and smooth.

Some specs of the I747 model are listed below (different models may have better or equal specs).

- 1.4GHZ Duel Core Processor
- 1GB of RAM
- 16 GB internal storage (SD Card slot included, up to 64GB)
- 4.8 inch screen size
- Sturdy (my opinion)
- Removable battery, could increase the battery up to 7000MAH.
- Runs Android 4.4.2
- Keyboard is responsive unlike other android ones

Those specs were decent two years ago but now there's way better phones for cheaper or the same price, for example the OnePlus One.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/com...ones/8603,6330

Isaac 12-20-2014 07:07 PM

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Posted by Vendetta (Post 528349)
Those specs were decent two years ago but now there's way better phones for cheaper or the same price, for example the OnePlus One.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/com...ones/8603,6330

Yeah, the oneplus one was what I have been looking at, but recently they've been having issues with the phones not being delivered at all and terrible customer support.

If 1+ gets their act back together, I would go for it; but I'm still leaning towards saving for the HTC One (m8), Moto X, or Nexus 6 instead.


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