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Vladamir Blackthorne 01-03-2015 12:59 PM

Less pew more bang
 
Zone PC had gunpowder-based munitions... Why not iZone? I want weapons like the SMG back.

Ghettoicedtea 01-03-2015 09:29 PM

Less pew more bang
 
I had plans to release a military surplus store that sold military grade weaponry. The guns i had ready were
SMG
Kr90 (fired 6 round bursts not 3)
A battlerifle (it was a kr90 that shot 2x faster but a lot less damage)
Slug shotgun (basically a reskinned rocket punch)
Kv24

But they do exist and i got the graphics, sounds, and stats all somewhere buried in my computer.

Distorted 01-03-2015 09:29 PM

pew pew

Vladamir Blackthorne 01-03-2015 10:49 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 532540)
I had plans to release a military surplus store that sold military grade weaponry. The guns i had ready were
SMG
Kr90 (fired 6 round bursts not 3)
A battlerifle (it was a kr90 that shot 2x faster but a lot less damage)
Slug shotgun (basically a reskinned rocket punch)
Kv24

But they do exist and i got the graphics, sounds, and stats all somewhere buried in my computer.

Well if you find wherever you had them stored please try to talk Tashkin into adding them even though you are no longer staff.

Ghettoicedtea 01-04-2015 04:30 AM

Odds of them being added in are 0. Kv24 is the only one that has a shot at making it since it is completed

MrSimons 01-04-2015 04:48 AM

i like pew

99% 01-04-2015 05:42 PM

lol. Isn't Tashkin desperately looking for ways to improve iZone? Kinda got that drift with the "iZone Insight" thread. I mean, if the staff team isn't listening to the playerbase on simple issues like some bang bang guns rather than pew pew guns, I have no bloody clue how the hell they expect to save that crashing plane.

G Fatal 02-23-2015 04:15 PM

Oh made simlier thread on zone forums

Powder 02-23-2015 06:17 PM

It's a lost cause.

Cookie Xanadu 02-23-2015 06:54 PM

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Posted by 99% (Post 532767)
lol. Isn't Tashkin desperately looking for ways to improve iZone? Kinda got that drift with the "iZone Insight" thread. I mean, if the staff team isn't listening to the playerbase on simple issues like some bang bang guns rather than pew pew guns, I have no bloody clue how the hell they expect to save that crashing plane.

From what I saw, no. He was more focused on holiday items and joke weapons; nothing about actual guns and content.

Dark Ice Cream 02-24-2015 07:44 AM

Isn't it more of bang and lasers?

Tashkin 03-01-2015 03:05 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 543458)
From what I saw, no. He was more focused on holiday items and joke weapons; nothing about actual guns and content.

Then you are blind also stop speaking for me. You don't anything any anything and are just talking crap. So keep your mouth shut because starting to irritate me with your stupid post.

Smitty 03-01-2015 03:48 PM

"Bang Bang" ~Luigi

Ghettoicedtea 03-01-2015 04:02 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 544817)
Then you are blind also stop speaking for me. You don't anything any anything and are just talking crap. So keep your mouth shut because starting to irritate me with your stupid post.

well the content you release says otherwise, everything that has been added has been either a crappy weapon or holiday stuff.

Tashkin 03-02-2015 05:21 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 544830)
well the content you release says otherwise, everything that has been added has been either a crappy weapon or holiday stuff.

Hmm pretty sure the last thing I released was the World Event towers and pretty sure it was 5 of them. I don't use graalians. All zone updates are put on zone-play.com

Ghettoicedtea 03-03-2015 03:35 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 545092)
Hmm pretty sure the last thing I released was the World Event towers and pretty sure it was 5 of them. I don't use graalians. All zone updates are put on zone-play.com

Wat the *** is that? I didnt see anything about that on zone forums or in news. Last thing released was a looked like reject vday gun.

Tashkin 03-03-2015 05:34 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 545254)
Wat the *** is that? I didnt see anything about that on zone forums or in news. Last thing released was a looked like reject vday gun.


Thanks for proving my point. Nobody should be speaking for you. None of you know what I am doing.

Ghettoicedtea 03-03-2015 06:54 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 545267)
Thanks for proving my point. Nobody should be speaking for you. None of you know what I am doing.

oh for gods sake we don't know what goes on behind the concrete wall you put up. Let me educate you on how the playerbase thinks because you clearly have no clue how we think while you are behind your wall. We, the players, base our opinions on what IS released and what has been released is holiday stuff and a not so good gun. Ya know if ya wan't this type of crap to stop you should allow us to look over the wall and actually see what the hell you're doing. I learned this lesson the hard way with the first rounds of updates to guns. People thought i was making the game worse by nerfing everything except photon so i could do better, I said no you don't know what goes on, I then showed them what I was doing and listened to the players and what they wanted and now we are actually in a decently balanced state of game. Now theres a lot less people who think i nerfed everything except photon so i could do better.

Be transparent, let people and show people what you are doing and be proud of it and show you actually give a damn what people think(something we all know you lack). Then these opinions would go away because we know, you actually care and proved it.

Cookie Xanadu 03-03-2015 07:35 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 544817)
Then you are blind also stop speaking for me. You don't anything any anything and are just talking crap. So keep your mouth shut because starting to irritate me with your stupid post.

Ayy lmao, I'm speaking from what I've experienced and seen, which honestly, hasn't been very much. You've been cordial when brought with ideas, you've shot down ideas that could have been implemented to expand the game in many ways and you've been implementing a lot of content directly from other servers.

From what I'm seeing, you just want the game to be a simplistic cash grab that caters to the ages of 8-12 as most content being released and worked on (from what I always saw) was mainly holiday everything. Hell, you had people preparing plans on holiday levels and items the day after a holiday ended.

Hey, maybe you are doing more, but from my experiences you've rarely said anything about content and always had focus on holidays.

Tashkin 03-03-2015 08:30 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 545299)
Ayy lmao, I'm speaking from what I've experienced and seen, which honestly, hasn't been very much. You've been cordial when brought with ideas, you've shot down ideas that could have been implemented to expand the game in many ways and you've been implementing a lot of content directly from other servers.

I would like to know which ideas I have shot down. I don't remember shooting any ideas down. Nobody was actually willing to do the work. So once again as stated do not speak for me and be sure you actually have facts and proper information before you go off on a silly rant about things you do not know about.

Cookie Xanadu 03-03-2015 08:56 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 545320)
I would like to know which ideas I have shot down. I don't remember shooting any ideas down. Nobody was actually willing to do the work. So once again as stated do not speak for me and be sure you actually have facts and proper information before you go off on a silly rant about things you do not know about.

Minor:

Redesigning the GMap and the local start area. It was to make the map and the start area more visually appealing as well less bloated and to remove redundancies such as the ships (since everything except a few worlds are connected) and provide better general exploration. You shot this down even though people were willing to put in the effort

Major:

Class reworks suggested by a lot of people; different types mind you, but all coming to the same concept: a total class overhaul to give classes more variety and actual play styles. Class-specific weapons have been suggested as well. Now I know Stefan said the classes wouldn't be changed while he was still here, but (correct me if I'm wrong) you said that since Stefan is gone, you have total control as a manager now, but you still refuse to change classes in any way.

Minor:

Importing content from Zone as suggested by a fair bit of people. Weapons and mechanics, classes as stated above. A lot of content shown has proven otherwise that you'd want to important anything other than furniture and the old looks for brainless NPCs.

Major:

Squad revamps/faction implementations; you've been open to it and many people have put in suggestions with the pros and cons, as well as ways that it could possibly bring in equal or more money. However, the thread died and you have not said anything of these since.

These are off the top of my head. Feel free to correct me if you want. Hell, I could be way off.

Tashkin 03-03-2015 11:10 PM

I haven't shot down any of those ideas. Honestly I don't remember getting any of them.

As for the classes I am pretty sure I at one point changed the classes and Stefan reverted them.

Alex and shmegg have been coming up with a different way to do the map for some time now.

Just because you haven't seen any changes to those doesn't mean they were shot down. So your delusions of me shutting them down are your own.

Vladamir Blackthorne 03-04-2015 12:49 AM

So Tashkin... On topic here.... How to you feel about being more faithful to the original Zone on PC and having more chemical propelled solid-slug weaponry alongside directed energy weapons, magnetically accelerated solid-slug weapons and biological weapons?

Tashkin 03-04-2015 03:20 AM

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Posted by Lazerlatte (Post 545359)
So Tashkin... On topic here.... How to you feel about being more faithful to the original Zone on PC and having more chemical propelled solid-slug weaponry alongside directed energy weapons, magnetically accelerated solid-slug weapons and biological weapons?

Explain a bit more... how would they actually function.

Asaiki 03-04-2015 04:01 AM

classic is better than zone.

Vladamir Blackthorne 03-04-2015 08:07 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 545388)
Explain a bit more... how would they actually function.

Why would they have to function differently from other weapons? All I want is some weapons firing bullets alongside those lasers and junk like in Zone PC.

Cookie Xanadu 03-04-2015 03:00 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 545388)
Explain a bit more... how would they actually function.

They'd function like a normal gun. Look at some of the guns GiT balanced (Kv9, handgun, crossbow, SMG, etc.) they fire normal non-highlighted boolets.

Tashkin 03-04-2015 05:25 PM

So you want bullets (correct way to spell it...) that do not have a light effect around them?

G Fatal 03-04-2015 05:34 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 545462)
They'd function like a normal gun. Look at some of the guns GiT balanced (Kv9, handgun, crossbow, SMG, etc.) they fire normal non-highlighted boolets.

Then everyone would moan it isn't visible harder to play/unfair etc personally i like light effect ..

I think zone should have more light effects/explosions/different electrical laser type fire, frost type one and tactical weapons the force(push players away) Stomp(damage anyone in area around you) maybe even magic type stuff seens though zone is in the future/should hace high tech.. etcetcetc rather than bullets.

Cookie Xanadu 03-04-2015 07:38 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 545482)
So you want bullets (correct way to spell it...) that do not have a light effect around them?

Yes, normal boolets that do not have gimmicky effects and just normal looking guns with the Zone-style shading. Not giant-ass turkey legs and sunscreen guns, but normal looking weapons that are already on Zone. All the need is to be balanced and imported.

PumaD 03-04-2015 09:39 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 544817)
You don't anything any anything and are just talking crap.

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 544817)
So keep your mouth shut because starting to irritate me with your stupid post.

I lol'd so hard.

Ghettoicedtea 03-05-2015 07:18 PM

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 545515)
Yes, normal boolets that do not have gimmicky effects and just normal looking guns with the Zone-style shading. Not giant-ass turkey legs and sunscreen guns, but normal looking weapons that are already on Zone. All the need is to be balanced and imported.

KV24 needs to be released. That gun is 100% completed.

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 545462)
They'd function like a normal gun. Look at some of the guns GiT balanced (Kv9, handgun, crossbow, SMG, etc.) they fire normal non-highlighted boolets.

lets be clear here. I made the STATS for those guns, the guns itself do not exist. I just put in the stats on an admin gun and tested and balanced it that way. Also tashkin deleted those from the lists so they don't exist anymore except on hardcopy that I have. Also im not positive what the hell guns I tried making since I haven't touched that folder in months at its still in my backpack, I do know though that I have the SMG completed

Tashkin 03-06-2015 05:31 PM

I didn't delete anything. They might not be on the public list anymore since they aren't released but they are not deleted.

Ghettoicedtea 03-06-2015 06:50 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 545820)
I didn't delete anything. They might not be on the public list anymore since they aren't released but they are not deleted.

Yes and no, they are deleted, i still have acess to the list, you deleted em. Luckily i still have them on PAPER because im smart and copy everything i do if something like this was to happen.

Also im talking about the list I USED. Not the public list.

Hugop 03-07-2015 08:11 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 545830)
Yes and no, they are deleted, i still have acess to the list, you deleted em. Luckily i still have them on PAPER because im smart and copy everything i do if something like this was to happen.

Also im talking about the list I USED. Not the public list.

You copy everything you make from a server that you arent getting paid for to prove things that are a waste of time? Bro, this make us cry :(

Ivy 03-07-2015 09:23 AM

Woah there

Ghettoicedtea 03-08-2015 03:43 AM

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Posted by Hugop (Post 545916)
You copy everything you make from a server that you arent getting paid for to prove things that are a waste of time? Bro, this make us cry :(

no its because when i am givin a job i do it correctly. Even if its a waste of time. Its what you do. You always keep a record of the things you did when it comes to a job of anytype.

GlazeyB 03-08-2015 07:40 AM

Tashkin's a moron for actually getting upset, lmao.

I'm sure even he could figure something out for a server that's based in the future.

Tashkin 03-10-2015 05:57 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 545830)
Yes and no, they are deleted, i still have acess to the list, you deleted em. Luckily i still have them on PAPER because im smart and copy everything i do if something like this was to happen.

Also im talking about the list I USED. Not the public list.

The list you used was the public list. x.x

Ghettoicedtea 03-10-2015 05:59 PM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 546490)
The list you used was the public list. x.x

It became the public list when i got fired. I made my own public list that was the public list for a while. x.x

Zura 07-28-2015 05:57 AM

GIT, bro, there isn't any use arguing with a man who can barely spell his own name... Tbh sometimes I think Tashkin has no brain, because what you tell him seems to go in one ear and out the other.

PigParty 07-28-2015 10:13 AM

I like pew more than bang :(

Anyways the guns were fine, they didn't need changed, especially not that much. If anything, only select few guns could have been tweaked. The gun changes were way overboard. Just saw this was from months ago, I meant the 2nd time around GIT came, so nvm.

PumaD 07-28-2015 12:46 PM

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Posted by Zura (Post 598107)
GIT, bro, there isn't any use arguing with a man who can barely spell his own name... Tbh sometimes I think Tashkin has no brain, because what you tell him seems to go in one ear and out the other.

Maybe he's just ignoring you.

GlazeyB 07-28-2015 10:45 PM

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Posted by Zura (Post 598107)
GIT, bro, there isn't any use arguing with a man who can barely spell his own name... Tbh sometimes I think Tashkin has no brain, because what you tell him seems to go in one ear and out the other.

This thread is almost 5 months old since the last post. I question if you have a brain or not.


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