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Zax 03-09-2015 10:22 PM

Ban Rate
 
I have noticed that people get banned more than usual. What is the circumstances that this happens? Is it cause of hacking or something? Or maybe just false alarms. When you get banned out of nowhere you usually go to appealing to get ur chance to be unbanned. Most of the time u dont even get unbanned. Are admins doing their job right???

Droid 03-09-2015 10:42 PM

Everyone who gets banned frequently is clearly going to say "No".

Demrow 03-09-2015 10:54 PM

They ban you for no reason and label it in a category that has nothing to do with it. I was banned for "Inappropriate Behavior" because I had "Give Graal one star and leave a review if you find the lag unbearable" IN MY PROFILE. They'll ban you for anything, they're children.

Cardevore 03-09-2015 11:11 PM

Depending on when you joined Graal the waves of new players that have logged in over the years will make it seem like there is a higher ban rate.

Another thing is that some people that you may come across will lie about being banned once simply because they think it is cool.

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Posted by Demrow (Post 546329)
They ban you for no reason and label it in a category that has nothing to do with it. I was banned for "Inappropriate Behavior" because I had "Give Graal one star and leave a review if you find the lag unbearable" IN MY PROFILE. They'll ban you for anything, they're children.

:/ Children? I'm pretty sure that if you give a game a low rating because of lag just to get the attention of unix or the development staff then THAT could be considered childish of you.

Chun 03-09-2015 11:33 PM

I got banned a few times for the reason "hacking/cheating" before when i did nothing but catching bugs and sparring. I tried to repeal the ban everytime but never worked. And then I have a friend that got banned for "Inappropriate Behavior" and i clearly saw him said some bad words in public chat. He sent an email to admin and he got unbanned right away.

Zetectic 03-09-2015 11:45 PM

haha, I was watching this clip earlier.
this clip was made two month before 2013.

in the clip, a hacker was having fun with his cheat engine tool.
then he gets a warn, he did it again and he got a week ban.

if u do this in 2015, you can a easy year ban.


Demrow 03-09-2015 11:46 PM

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Posted by Cardevore (Post 546331)
:/ Children? I'm pretty sure that if you give a game a low rating because of lag just to get the attention of unix or the development staff then THAT could be considered childish of you.

I'll make you an offer, because the game should be rated that low for a lot of reasons. So you name me 10 things that Graal classic staff do well and ill name you 20 things they do poorly. I also want you to tell me a few big meaningful updates that have made the game better in the passed 3 years. I'll let you start.

Cardevore 03-09-2015 11:53 PM

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Posted by Demrow (Post 546337)
I'll make you an offer, because the game should be rated that low for a lot of reasons. So you name me 10 things that Graal classic staff do well and ill name you 20 things they do poorly. I also want you to tell me a few big meaningful updates that have made the game better in the passed 3 years. I'll let you start.

This is something I come across often. People complaining about staff or bad content and yet you still play the game. Obviously there is something you enjoy about it if you are still here. Please don't turn this into an argument about what is good or bad about the game because its a waste of time. At the end of it you will still play even though there are things you want to change about it.

Have something you don't like? Try handling it a different way.

Demrow 03-10-2015 12:07 AM

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Posted by Cardevore (Post 546340)
This is something I come across often. People complaining about staff or bad content and yet you still play the game. Obviously there is something you enjoy about it if you are still here. Please don't turn this into an argument about what is good or bad about the game because its a waste of time. At the end of it you will still play even though there are things you want to change about it.

Have something you don't like? Try handling it a different way.

I like sparring and that's it. I play for about 10 minutes a day to check on my guild and to see if the server is lagging. Usually the server is lagging so I log off. The amount I could be playing compared to the amount I actually play have a huge deviation. I've played this game for a long long long time and it didn't used to be this way. On playerworlds staff weren't hidden they were players also who took feedback and worked on projects that bettered the game. On here its like the KGB, you have no freedom of speech any more, anything that you say, that they don't like, you get punished for. There is no other way to communicate with this generation of Graals hierarchy than using tactics like this that grab their attention. The game has turned to **** and the one enjoyable thing on this game which is sparring is ruined by lag. If you count 10 minutes of logging on and chatting guild m8s playing, I guess I play this game.

Cookie Xanadu 03-10-2015 12:23 AM

Took me 2 weeks of trying to get banned, to get banned.

Nep 03-10-2015 12:27 AM

Well it seems more people are getting banned this year, then a year in 2011 considering the fact that the player count has nearly doubled, therefore leading to more people getting banned. So yes.

Zetectic 03-10-2015 12:32 AM

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Posted by Cardevore (Post 546340)
This is something I come across often. People complaining about staff or bad content and yet you still play the game. Obviously there is something you enjoy about it if you are still here. Please don't turn this into an argument about what is good or bad about the game because its a waste of time. At the end of it you will still play even though there are things you want to change about it.

Have something you don't like? Try handling it a different way.

we complain to fix issues and make this game better. many past lag issue threads were often ignored.
demrow got them good this time. it is attracting high managements, they have flagged some recent reviews.

we like this game, that's why we care and spend our time to write a paragraph and even writing horrible reviews to get attentions from high management.
if server lag issue was like something that a normal staff can fix, we wouldn't even bother ourselves to write a review on the app.

we still play because of the community and unique stuff about the game.
speaking of which, like Xenthic was saying from the other thread.
This game has so much potential, just the game company is ruining it.

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Posted by Cookie Xanadu (Post 546344)
Took me 2 weeks of trying to get banned, to get banned.

easy. pm xor some inappropriate language.

Cardevore 03-10-2015 12:44 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 546349)
we like this game, that's why we care and spend our time to write a paragraph and even writing horrible reviews to get attentions from high management.
if server lag issue was like something that a normal staff can fix, we wouldn't even bother ourselves to write a review on the app.

You are only causing problems that way. It is better to get what you want in a way that isn't doing anything negative. If you really have an issue with lag then you can get enough people who support your ideas and go to high management.

Giving a game bad reviews and telling others to do the same is a negative/childish way to handle things.

Just look at the game in a positive light instead of treating ToonsLab like they are the enemy ;)

Zetectic 03-10-2015 12:53 AM

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Posted by Cardevore (Post 546350)
You are only causing problems that way. It is better to get what you want in a way that isn't doing anything negative. If you really have an issue with lag then you can get enough people who support your ideas and go to high management.

Giving a game bad reviews and telling others to do the same is a negative/childish way to handle things.

Just look at the game in a positive light instead of treating ToonsLab like they are the enemy ;)

pfft demrow already has enough supports from people and it's working cause we finally grabbed their attention.
yes, it is childish way, but better than leaving it there and do nothing about it.
we have to create an emergency. look, after 9/11 air port security got 10x safe and secured.

Cardevore 03-10-2015 12:54 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 546351)
pfft demrow already has enough supports from people and it's working cause we finally grabbed their attention.
yes, it is childish way, but better than leaving it there and do nothing about it.
we have to create an emergency. look, after 9/11 air port security got 10x safe and secured.

Your logic. (about as bad as gs2's)

Thallen 03-10-2015 12:59 AM

been banned for some pretty ******ed ****, always got unbanned after sending in a good support ticket
bad bans are prone to happen when members of the community work for the game on a non-reward, volunteer basis

surely you can imagine how a 16-year-old kid would see "benefit" in being an admin, if they ever abuse it you just have to trust one of the higher admins to resolve it
I can at least say that iClassic is more under control than UN in that regard

Demrow 03-10-2015 01:11 AM

Quote:

Posted by Cardevore (Post 546350)
You are only causing problems that way. It is better to get what you want in a way that isn't doing anything negative. If you really have an issue with lag then you can get enough people who support your ideas and go to high management.

Giving a game bad reviews and telling others to do the same is a negative/childish way to handle things.

Just look at the game in a positive light instead of treating ToonsLab like they are the enemy ;)

Tacobell used to serve you dog food quality meat until people complained and they started getting a bunch of negative publicity from news stations and customers. They now serve a higher quality of meat then they used to. This isn't childish, these are tactics that gain attention and gain results. If I could have a sit down with Stefan and Uni about how ****ty this game has become I would. They don't listen, they don't respond to emails, and they neglect the community. Therefore, we are doing this. So either go rate the game a 5 because your game play experience is very fulfilled and you have no complaints or let me and the others do our thing and see what happens.

You're staff and obviously you think your product is being attacked which it is, and maybe you put in some hard volunteer hours to try and better it but the game blows bud.

Please give me some details also of your in game experience and why you find the game perfect the way it is. Also list me some major improvements that has made graal a better game and made gameplay fresh.

Bryan* 03-10-2015 01:37 AM

The ban rate is high but it's beneficial to make the game "safer" and less aggravating for others. But recently, I have witnessed players being banned for more than 2,000 hours for ridiculous reasons.

Ivy 03-10-2015 01:38 AM

Looting, big city, railroad. Most of these aren't all that recent though.

Kendama 03-10-2015 02:40 AM

One time i got banned for 70 somthin hours because I lagged while entering the first assualt room in Sardons and i lagged into the black wall. I didn't even get 10 seconds to "unstuck me" it (the ban) happened literally immediately. The ban was labeled "wall walking".

deadowl 03-10-2015 03:46 AM

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Posted by Demrow (Post 546357)
If I could have a sit down with Stefan and Uni about how ****ty this game has become I would.

Stefan doesn't work on Graal anymore. Apparently ToonSlab relocated to some island nation off the eastern coast of Africa.

Demrow 03-10-2015 04:42 AM

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Posted by deadowl (Post 546393)
Stefan doesn't work on Graal anymore. Apparently ToonSlab relocated to some island nation off the eastern coast of Africa.

Hahahaha nice. The delay and lag would make it seem so.:P

Common Sense 03-10-2015 05:23 AM

one day i get banned becuz lag made me look like boosting but i wasn't i promise!! this game sucks they ban me for no reason! im just gonna keep complaint about how bad this game is until i get unbanned so i can keep playing it because logic!!!

Lol seriously you guys, you do not just get banned for "no reason". There is always another story behind whatever you tell us. Look at the thread Josh-Kun made. Said he got banned for no reason and tried to make the game look bad, but it was later revealed that he actually was banned for a valid reason.

If you get banned it's for a reason, stop trying to tell people you didn't do anything wrong because literally everyone knows you are lying/stretching the truth.

I don't think the ban rate is high or low. Based off of how much of the community acts, I think it is at the appropriate rate.

meganey98 03-10-2015 05:31 AM

Hi Zax! :3 I remember you.

Sardon 03-10-2015 05:32 AM

Staff ban who staff want to ban they can do it so why not
al those lil players are begging for admin hugs worshiping them like gods they have the power to do anything now tommorow the tileset can be different tommorow Balambe could vanish tommorow you can get banned for beating the staffs friend in spar

little to No control over who is being hired

I was banned once for harrasing xor about making this game better xP then I found this place so I can annoy people here instead

Cody 03-10-2015 06:05 AM

Zax, in your case, when someone gets banned on their main and use a nub account its considered evading a ban. Which then prompts admin to ban nub account because it's the same player. Something like that, saw it on the forums one day.Try changing your name or just wait for the ban to be lifted. Or was it your ip that they checked for multiple accounts? Can't remember

deadowl 03-10-2015 06:50 AM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 546412)
one day i get banned becuz lag made me look like boosting but i wasn't i promise!!

Some people were saying that someone was boosting off of me last year (supposedly he was one of the top sparrers), but the truth was that I was simply sucking at spar. That isn't to say I wasn't putting up a decent fight though. I did win/draw a few times out of maybe 100 though.

MBK 03-10-2015 09:55 AM

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Posted by Demrow (Post 546337)
I'll make you an offer, because the game should be rated that low for a lot of reasons. So you name me 10 things that Graal classic staff do well and ill name you 20 things they do poorly. I also want you to tell me a few big meaningful updates that have made the game better in the passed 3 years. I'll let you start.

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Posted by Demrow (Post 546214)
You give me a list of 10 things that Graals top management does well and I'll give you 20 things that they do poorly.

I knew i read this somewhere else lol



I was banned in Feb for saying to some ****** Admin that his country sucked.

Sardon 03-10-2015 03:37 PM

i have 2 ip adressses :P

Just dont pm staff often and dont spar with laggers often and fix your wifi

Zax 03-10-2015 04:20 PM

All my bans are 2k+ most them are for *** reasons. Even when i appeal its like an instant no. I got off from a 4k ban like 2 weeks ago and it was from some server lag while i was pking. So i just go on anothet acc, then somewhere along that time i get banned for some **** reason

Chun 03-10-2015 06:16 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 546336)
it's kinda weird sparring against u, but i understand. u live in china and they have a fast internet, but not any close to the graal server side. which might've caused some issues.
I have some friends playing from South Korea got banned for no reason.

actually I live in usa, not china

Distorted 03-10-2015 07:56 PM

The reason there's a lot more bans is because some idiots found the simple speed hack you can get on Cydia and Graal is too stupid to fix it.

"Frame Rate Hacking".

Zetectic 03-10-2015 10:41 PM

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Posted by Chun (Post 546484)
actually I live in usa, not china

o sorry nvm, idk then.

Bryan* 03-12-2015 12:43 AM

Is having on your status: "Spring: the return of the cleavage" inappropriate to have?

Sardon 03-12-2015 06:40 AM

Banning people sucks , i understand if some guy starts swearing at everyone using verry vular language which should resault in a ban of 200h or 100h (because its simply words)
And a hacker getting more of a severe ban

This is getting out of hand though i am a legit player I rarely swear much on iclassic or hack

i found some girl saying to wear the pink free hat to support breast cancer, I said Wear this hat if you care about boobs
I was helping her out and I dont see how this could be bad but i was warned
luckily I was not banned though but i just think that we should reduce the amount of gp and have them lose their ability to host events but hire an event team to do that
To make sure our gp team cares about keeping graal safe not about banning people they dont like
Also put them through a ethics test seeing what they would do in different situations, selecting staff shouldnt be that easy the kind of power that comes with it is too much and that sort of thing can't happen in the most popular server in graal

Thallen 03-12-2015 07:15 AM

Zax, you ever consider that you are always lagging at a disgusting rate to get to the flags of towers and evading bans 80% of the time? You think maybe that has anything to do with your bans?

Common Sense 03-12-2015 03:18 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 546710)
Is having on your status: "Spring: the return of the cleavage" inappropriate to have?

Of course not I mean it's not like little kids play this game too omg yeah might as well put whatever in your status since nobody else is gonna see it

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Posted by Demrow (Post 546357)
Tacobell used to serve you dog food quality meat until people complained and they started getting a bunch of negative publicity from news stations and customers. They now serve a higher quality of meat then they used to. This isn't childish, these are tactics that gain attention and gain results. If I could have a sit down with Stefan and Uni about how ****ty this game has become I would. They don't listen, they don't respond to emails, and they neglect the community. Therefore, we are doing this. So either go rate the game a 5 because your game play experience is very fulfilled and you have no complaints or let me and the others do our thing and see what happens.

You're staff and obviously you think your product is being attacked which it is, and maybe you put in some hard volunteer hours to try and better it but the game blows bud.

Please give me some details also of your in game experience and why you find the game perfect the way it is. Also list me some major improvements that has made graal a better game and made gameplay fresh.

This is a bad analogy because Taco Bell is a widespread company who began to notice less people buying their meat so they fixed that. But for Graal, people complain about lag and yet they still continue to play so what is the point of actually fixing it? They see people complaining about it but the people who continue to complain still continue to log on so they don't see the point.

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Posted by Demrow (Post 546337)
I'll make you an offer, because the game should be rated that low for a lot of reasons. So you name me 10 things that Graal classic staff do well and ill name you 20 things they do poorly. I also want you to tell me a few big meaningful updates that have made the game better in the passed 3 years. I'll let you start.

http://i.imgur.com/pIPyV1p.jpg

Bryan* 03-12-2015 07:34 PM

Friend used cleavage in context of biology.

In embryology, cleavage is the division of cells in the early embryo.

Either admins have never taken biology or just assume the negatives.

Common Sense 03-12-2015 08:15 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 546809)
Friend used cleavage in context of biology.

In embryology, cleavage is the division of cells in the early embryo.

Either admins have never taken biology or just assume the negatives.

Spring: The return of the division of cells in the early embryo.

This totally makes sense. We are so sorry for misunderstanding what you meant. I forgot that cells decide to only divide when spring comes.

Obvious use of cleavage in a sentence is obvious.

Bryan* 03-12-2015 09:30 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 546819)
Spring: The return of the division of cells in the early embryo.

This totally makes sense. We are so sorry for misunderstanding what you meant. I forgot that cells decide to only divide when spring comes.

Obvious use of cleavage in a sentence is obvious.



We? You're the only fool to reply lol. This didn't actually happen. This proves you like to quote/reply to what I post :dazed:

Common Sense 03-12-2015 09:46 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 546838)
We? You're the only fool to reply lol. This didn't actually happen. This proves you like to quote/reply to what I post :dazed:

Whoops, should've used "I am" I suppose.

Well, I like to reply to posts that lack some common sense, or ask why something is considered inappropriate by showing/telling people the innapropriate PM/status/guild news text which pretty much answers their own question...and then try to pretend that they meant something else...and that seems to be a majority of your posts...so I guess I do! :dazed:

Bryan* 03-12-2015 09:53 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 546842)
Whoops, should've used "I am" I suppose.

Well, I like to reply to posts that lack some common sense, or ask why something is considered inappropriate by showing/telling people the innapropriate PM/status/guild news text which pretty much answers their own question...and then try to pretend that they meant something else...and that seems to be a majority of your posts...so I guess I do! :dazed:

It was to see if you will bite and you definitely did, it's common sense. Can't you notice?

Common Sense 03-12-2015 10:06 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 546847)
It was to see if you will bite and you definitely did, it's common sense. Can't you notice?

Explain to me how that's common sense, lol.

Also, where did I bite back?

Either way, we're derailing the thread, so don't feel the need to have to reply to me. If you do, then I guess I'll know that you love replying to me so much. ;)

Bryan* 03-12-2015 10:23 PM

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Posted by Common Sense (Post 546851)
Explain to me how that's common sense, lol.

Also, where did I bite back?

Either way, we're derailing the thread, so don't feel the need to have to reply to me. If you do, then I guess I'll know that you love replying to me so much. ;)

You took the bait by replying to me. I knew since you like to quote so so much of my posts, it was only necessary to see if the uncommon player was going to bite. It's common sense.


Also on topic, ban rate should go up by 200%

Common Sense 03-12-2015 10:29 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 546852)
You took the bait by replying to me. I knew since you like to quote so so much of my posts, it was only necessary to see if the uncommon player was going to bite. It's common sense.


Also on topic, ban rate should go up by 200%

Welp, I guess we know the truth now.

twilit 03-12-2015 11:35 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 546809)
Friend used cleavage in context of biology.

In embryology, cleavage is the division of cells in the early embryo.

Either admins have never taken biology or just assume the negatives.

Dont be all smart ass as if the double meaning werent intended.

Nabu Lapse 03-13-2015 03:49 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 546809)
Friend used cleavage in context of biology.

In embryology, cleavage is the division of cells in the early embryo.

Either admins have never taken biology or just assume the negatives.

Half the staff team has probably not even taken biology in school yet. I wouldn't run around using words like that with double meanings if nobody is going to know the intellectual meaning. Plus, most schools are smart enough not to try to teach that word because the dirty meaning to it is very well-known. I took IB Biology myself and that word wasn't mentioned once throughout the course of the class, so your friend deserved it.

Bryan* 03-13-2015 04:32 AM

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Posted by Nabu Lapse (Post 546889)
Half the staff team has probably not even taken biology in school yet. I wouldn't run around using words like that with double meanings if nobody is going to know the intellectual meaning. Plus, most schools are smart enough not to try to teach that word because the dirty meaning to it is very well-known. I took IB Biology myself and that word wasn't mentioned once throughout the course of the class, so your friend deserved it.



Ah very well. This was all a misunderstanding I guess.

Rufus 03-13-2015 04:36 AM

Not sure why people are getting banned for the word 'cleavage' if there isn't any real context behind it. Got to take most posts that complain about bans with a grain of salt though.

Ivy 03-13-2015 06:44 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 546896)
Not sure why people are getting banned for the word 'cleavage' if there isn't any real context behind it. Got to take most posts that complain about bans with a grain of salt though.

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