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Red 04-07-2015 01:16 AM

ReD's Spar Guide - going positive
 
Sparring - Going positive

About me:
Hi my name is ReD, I've been playing iClassic since late 2012 and sparring since early 2013, I have participated in 5 guild spar tournaments (4 iDevice and 1 Mixed), by 4000 wins my iDevice was completely broken and my only option was to make the jump too PC.

Intro
In this guide you'll find tips and a few tricks on going positive with your W/L ratio, I will be covering other sparring topics later on but this guide is built to help you with your sometimes long and hard (well not hard if your decent) Journey to going positive.

Index
  • Tips
  • Tricks
  • Techniques
  • Keeping a positive ratio
  • conclusion
  • Additional sources

Tips:
The main thing with positive ratios is finding a way in which you'll be comfortable sparring, focus on learning how YOU like to move, don't let others influence you completely, a little tip from someone is great once in a while but copying someone's style isn't always the ideal choice, learn to predict your opponent and when or when not too hit, once all of this is done its time to apply this inside the Battle Arena, Just remember its always a good idea to warm up before going ahead and sparring for long periods of time, streak rooms are great but if your in desperate need of going positive go ahead and spar in quick spar rooms, these are great for practice and also provide a good amount of wins, and barely any losses (considering everyone in quick spar rooms are generally really really bad), however if your looking for a challenge the mixed room is full of sparrers from old pros to talented rookies.

Tricks: Often you'll come across "delaying" or "lagging" players, try different ways that you feel will help you combat these sorts of players, often walling is the go to choice for many but its not always the best, as getting trapped on a wall will get you a loss, keep moving around and predicting where the player will be next (if their warping this works well) generally the player lagging will lose to this technique.

Keeping a positive ratio:
Keeping a positive ratio means you CANNOT lose, so don't be afraid to cheap-shot an AFK player or use a technique that is hated by others, after all its you who matters in this situation, try your hardest in every match, have the attitude that your unstoppable and you'll have an easier time winning.

Conclusion
, I have to say, this guide is kind of crappy and probably doesn't make sense but sparring is my thing and I love to share info and talk about it :) I went from 100-300 to 6500-3100 with the attitude and actions mentioned in my guide, I hope that at least 1 or 2 people will use some of the little tips mentioned in my guide :), positive and negative feedback is all welcome! just try not to be offensive :D thanks and good luck sparring!

some additional things to help you out on your journey to positive!:

Zetectic 04-07-2015 02:33 AM

Cool guide
I agree with you on trying your hardest on every match. At least give some effort to respect the other player. I find annoying when the opponent is 'acting' or really not trying. I join spars to prove myself as a skilled sparrer and always try my best.

Sardon 04-07-2015 02:35 AM

lmao You should make a thread about how to boost like you did for all your wins
GG OG

Distorted 04-07-2015 02:35 AM

Jesus

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552270)
lmao You should make a thread about how to boost like you did for all your wins
GG OG

Nobody really cares about your posts.

Red 04-07-2015 02:43 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552270)
lmao You should make a thread about how to boost like you did for all your wins
GG OG

orly :0, don't see you doing anything but talking **** and going afk lmao

oh and btw, ask the other 2 who posted on this thread, I'm no booster lol

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 552268)
Cool guide
I agree with you on trying your hardest on every match. At least give some effort to respect the other player. I find annoying when the opponent is 'acting' or really not trying. I join spars to prove myself as a skilled sparrer and always try my best.

ditto :smile:

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552270)
lmao You should make a thread about how to boost like you did for all your wins
GG OG

Also, I wrote this guide to help people, no need to act like an ass over some information I've provided to the community

Sardon 04-07-2015 02:45 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 552275)
orly :0, don't see you doing anything but talking **** and going afk lmao

oh and btw, ask the other 2 who posted on this thread, I'm no booster lol




Also, I wrote this guide to help people, no need to act like an ass over some information I've provided to the community

Its caled Guild chat while standing on the gmap
I have a guild to run I chat with people and have long conversations

Lol the only information youve provided to this community

Red 04-07-2015 02:51 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552277)
Its caled Guild chat while standing on the gmap
I have a guild to run I chat with people and have long conversations

Lol the only information youve provided to this community

if your going to be rude, you may as well just not bother replying to this and/or writing on my thread

Bryan* 04-07-2015 03:01 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552270)
lmao You should make a thread about how to boost like you did for all your wins
GG OG



I demand you series him and see who's the best. All talk no action you are!

Vicipower 04-07-2015 03:02 AM

I remember when we first met and you werent positive just like me ; v ; sigh good times, ANYWAYS! Nice guide m8 i like it & dont worry sardon is just a bit salty today

Red 04-07-2015 03:06 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 552281)
I demand you series him and see who's the best. All talk no action you are!

thx brotha <3

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Posted by Vicipower (Post 552282)
I remember when we first met and you werent positive just like me ; v ; sigh good times, ANYWAYS! Nice guide m8 i like it & dont worry sardon is just a bit salty today

salt

Colin 04-07-2015 03:20 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552270)
lmao You should make a thread about how to boost like you did for all your wins
GG OG

You think everyone boosts because you are upset about how poor your record is.

I've seen him spar against numerous good people in both singles and guild spar, only thing I see you doing is losing.

Good guide, it should help noobs like Sardon improve a bit.

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 552268)
Cool guide
I agree with you on trying your hardest on every match. At least give some effort to respect the other player. I find annoying when the opponent is 'acting' or really not trying. I join spars to prove myself as a skilled sparrer and always try my best.

Yeah the only time I didn't try is if it was a really bad person or new player usually let them hit me to 1.5 so it was more fair for them

Fulgore 04-07-2015 03:22 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 552254)
so don't be afraid to cheap-shot an AFK player

Idk about this. Just makes you look like a prick when you do it, but it is their fault for idling to begin with I suppose.

Red 04-07-2015 03:28 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 552288)
Idk about this. Just makes you look like a prick when you do it, but it is their fault for idling to begin with I suppose.

precisely, I see it as their fall, if its someone IK, take primetime (WAR) or respect like Inevitable (Alumni) for example, I'll wait but if its a random I'll just hit them

Vicipower 04-07-2015 03:29 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 552286)
You think everyone boosts because you are upset about how poor your record is.

Good guide, it should help noobs like Sardon improve a bit.

cmon dont say that thats rude even if sardon was acting like that you shouldnt do the same riight?

Zetectic 04-07-2015 03:34 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 552291)
precisely, I see it as their fall, if its someone IK, take primetime (WAR) or respect like Inevitable (Alumni) for example, I'll wait but if its a random I'll just hit them

If they do it on purpose I don't wait, but if it wasn't intentional I would wait until the standing still timer runs out.

Sardon 04-07-2015 03:41 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 552281)
I demand you series him and see who's the best. All talk no action you are!

gimme a few days to unrust havent sparred since the gst and Ill Spar him

Red 04-07-2015 03:54 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 552286)
I've seen him spar against numerous good people in both singles and guild spar, only thing I see you doing is losing.

Good guide, it should help noobs like Sardon improve

I'll spar anyone because I enjoy sparring, but tbh I'm nothing special, I'll make it to 10k, but ik I won't win a gst or get into a big sparring guild, I'm pretty terrible compared to most :(

super kurosaki 04-07-2015 04:44 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552295)
gimme a few days to unrust havent sparred since the gst and Ill Spar him

"unrust" lol

Red 04-07-2015 04:50 AM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 552317)
"unrust" lol

"Unrust" = dojo

Sardon 04-07-2015 05:12 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 552319)
"Unrust" = dojo

unrusting is for the competitive rooms

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 552317)
"unrust" lol

wut about it

Red 04-07-2015 06:44 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552323)
unrusting is for the competitive rooms



wut about it

Ik that lmao, I spar more often then you actually do anything

Striken 04-07-2015 07:13 AM

Step 1. Get good
Step 2. Profit

but seriously, its well written and could use more information such as techniques. Also be sure to create a guide specifically for people like sardon.

Colin 04-07-2015 07:21 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 552343)
but seriously, its well written and could use more information such as techniques. Also be sure to create a guide specifically for people like sardon.

Step 1: Never set foot in spar arena.

That was easy

Red 04-07-2015 07:33 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 552343)
Step 1. Get good
Step 2. Profit

but seriously, its well written and could use more information such as techniques. Also be sure to create a guide specifically for people like sardon.

<3 I will

Fulgore 04-07-2015 08:26 PM

Rust is the biggest bull**** excuse for spar that there has ever been outside of the classic "he delays so he has advantage" crap.

I could say that my dog jumped on my lap and spilled my drink on my pc and it would be more valid than "rust" that these people claim to have. You don't get rusty from spar, you think there's rust because you return and realize that you aren't as good as you thought you were, so the natural reaction is to blame father time.

I've seen people who quit for a month, then return for 6 weeks, claiming they're 'rusty' the entire time that they're back. That is just ridiculous. No single person should believe that kind of excuse.

Multipas* 04-07-2015 08:41 PM

Challenges red ANBU to spar*

Sardon 04-07-2015 09:13 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 552434)
Rust is the biggest bull**** excuse for spar that there has ever been outside of the classic "he delays so he has advantage" crap.

I could say that my dog jumped on my lap and spilled my drink on my pc and it would be more valid than "rust" that these people claim to have. You don't get rusty from spar, you think there's rust because you return and realize that you aren't as good as you thought you were, so the natural reaction is to blame father time.

I've seen people who quit for a month, then return for 6 weeks, claiming they're 'rusty' the entire time that they're back. That is just ridiculous. No single person should believe that kind of excuse.

So lets say i had high streaks and then i didnt spar for 3 months and lose to alot of players im rusty i need some practice to get some good streaks going on

Striken 04-07-2015 10:12 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552449)
So lets say i had high streaks and then i didnt spar for 3 months and lose to alot of players im rusty i need some practice to get some good streaks going on

No, you're not rusty. You're just inconsistently bad.

Red 04-07-2015 10:44 PM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 552434)
Rust is the biggest bull**** excuse for spar that there has ever been outside of the classic "he delays so he has advantage" crap.

I could say that my dog jumped on my lap and spilled my drink on my pc and it would be more valid than "rust" that these people claim to have. You don't get rusty from spar, you think there's rust because you return and realize that you aren't as good as you thought you were, so the natural reaction is to blame father time.

I've seen people who quit for a month, then return for 6 weeks, claiming they're 'rusty' the entire time that they're back. That is just ridiculous. No single person should believe that kind of excuse.

agreed

super kurosaki 04-07-2015 10:52 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552449)
So lets say i had high streaks and then i didnt spar for 3 months and lose to alot of players im rusty i need some practice to get some good streaks going on

highstreaks off of noobs w/ negative ratios then you spar people that actually know how to spar and you lose. That's not rust.

Fulgore 04-07-2015 11:13 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552449)
So lets say i had high streaks and then i didnt spar for 3 months and lose to alot of players im rusty i need some practice to get some good streaks going on

Yeah that doesn't happen

Red 04-08-2015 12:17 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 552449)
So lets say i had high streaks and then i didnt spar for 3 months and lose to alot of players im rusty i need some practice to get some good streaks going on

You've probably never had a streak...

super kurosaki 04-08-2015 05:39 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 552487)
You've probably never had a streak...

naw he got a 2 streak b4 it was gonna be a 3 streak but the noob clutched him

Ivy 04-08-2015 07:47 AM

Nice guide

Multipas* 04-08-2015 09:44 AM

Yall talking bout your dirty underwear, and I just wanna kick all Yall around the arena Capish?

Red 04-08-2015 11:29 AM

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Posted by Multipas* (Post 552647)
Yall talking bout your dirty underwear, and I just wanna kick all Yall around the arena Capish?

Don't post useless crap on my thread, tyvm

Zetectic 04-08-2015 10:54 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 552281)
I demand you series him and see who's the best. All talk no action you are!

DO IT! I'll record.

Brett 04-08-2015 11:21 PM

Should add a Youtube video or something with commentary or something if possible. Text seems pretty bland, for me atleast.

2coolforchris 04-08-2015 11:36 PM

Nice tips Man!

Striken 04-08-2015 11:48 PM

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Posted by Brett (Post 552808)
Should add a Youtube video or something with commentary or something if possible. Text seems pretty bland, for me atleast.

Text with images seem to be a much better demonstration.

Fulgore 04-09-2015 02:53 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 552804)
DO IT! I'll record.

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Posted by Brett (Post 552808)
Should add a Youtube video or something with commentary or something if possible. Text seems pretty bland, for me atleast.

I agree, commentary is a must.

Zetectic 04-09-2015 03:14 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 552844)
I agree, commentary is a must.

if u can do the commentary join me on skype.

MBK 04-09-2015 02:32 PM

A nice guide...but i've seen better.
GJ dood

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 552844)
I agree, commentary is a must.

Zetectic is a foreigner (i belive) and that would make his accent a little weird for commentary.That's why he avoids it.It's better with the text anyways.

Bryan* 04-09-2015 11:36 PM

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Posted by MBK (Post 552947)
A nice guide...but i've seen better.
GJ dood



Zetectic is a foreigner (i belive) and that would make his accent a little weird for commentary.That's why he avoids it.It's better with the text anyways.



An accent makes the video quite more interesting than a dull voice.

Zetectic 04-09-2015 11:53 PM

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Posted by MBK (Post 552947)
Zetectic is a foreigner (i belive) and that would make his accent a little weird for commentary.That's why he avoids it.It's better with the text anyways.

lmao
that was unnecessary comment. people on here are smart to figure that out.

super kurosaki 04-10-2015 04:00 AM

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Posted by MBK (Post 552947)
Zetectic is a foreigner (i belive) and that would make his accent a little weird for commentary.That's why he avoids it.It's better with the text anyways.

What's wrong with accents? lol, if we can understand what he's saying then its fine.

Striken 04-10-2015 02:57 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 553113)
What's wrong with accents? lol, if we can understand what he's saying then its fine.

you'd be surprised

MBK 04-11-2015 12:25 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 553061)
lmao
that was unnecessary comment. people on here are smart to figure that out.

If they were that smart...they wouldn't ask for the commentary in the first place.

Sardon 04-11-2015 01:43 PM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 552591)
naw he got a 2 streak b4 it was gonna be a 3 streak but the noob clutched him

i had a 32 streak once during the fall when I was training

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 552478)
Yeah that doesn't happen

if U stopped sparring for a year could you do well in a gst?

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 553113)
What's wrong with accents? lol, if we can understand what he's saying then its fine.

weres he from

Zetectic 04-11-2015 04:42 PM

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Posted by MBK (Post 553352)
If they were that smart...they wouldn't ask for the commentary in the first place.

nope, when I said
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Posted by Zetectic (Post 552850)
if u can do the commentary join me on skype.

people pretty much can figure out there must've been reason why I am not trying to do a commentary by myself.

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Posted by Sardon (Post 553366)
weres he from

I was born and raised in South Korea. Pathetic how MBK said I've a little weird accent when he's from Saudi Arabia. Yes, I have a damn accent, but it's not weird and most people know what I am saying. I'm just insecure with my voice. I'll feel more confident speaking in Korean, then none of you will ever understand what I am saying.


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