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Fulgore 04-25-2015 03:25 PM

Example of a Great Guild
 
As of recently, I have been watching this guild and thought of how great an example they set for everyone else. They do things right. I just wanted to get the word out to all the rest of you.

The guild's name is White Tulip. This group of people does what every guild should do in pertinence to guild spar. When the scores were recently reset, a lot of guilds tried to rush to the top. White Tulip was one of these guilds. The difference is that after they got 7k points, they didn't cower down from anyone. They sparred just to spar, it didn't matter their numbers or odds or whoever else was in the room. They went down in points, but to me, they're a far more respected guild than a lot of those other snakes on the leaderboard.

I think all guilds should learn a lesson from White Tulip. Stop being concerned with score. Spar with your guild regardless of the environment.

Sardon 04-25-2015 03:54 PM

Numbers Dont Win A Spar Its Skill.
So what meaning do numbers have

GOAT 04-25-2015 06:25 PM

#WhiteTulip4GuildOfTheYear

if only I knew this was all it took to be a great guild :D



I wouldn't call them a "great" guild, but I would say it's a good way to lead by example in order to make non-GST gs relevant/fun(without all the tryhardness).

Neil 04-25-2015 06:36 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 556556)
Numbers Dont Win A Spar Its Skill.
So what meaning do numbers have

Spar records, like 80% of the time, give u a good indication of how skilled a sparrer is.

Zetectic 04-25-2015 08:35 PM

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Posted by NM (Post 556580)
Spar records, like 80% of the time, give u a good indication of how skilled a sparrer is.

Nope. Not even 30%. 70%+ are fake, including myself.
435-191 on Streak spar room (sparred during EST afternoon to evening, no selective spar)
40-4 on Quick spar room (Didn't spar selectively, rushed against most opponents, 40-50% opponents were well over 2:1 ratio with 1k+ wins).
Last January on Male -> 642-142, 80% quick, 20% streak. Had a good streak time cause all the good sparrers were towering.

Redesign the spar match system like WoW, saying this again. You can't fake your score with randomly matched opponent. I want to see where all these random people pop up with such a huge ratio.

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 556554)
As of recently, I have been watching this guild and thought of how great an example they set for everyone else. They do things right. I just wanted to get the word out to all the rest of you.

The guild's name is White Tulip. This group of people does what every guild should do in pertinence to guild spar. When the scores were recently reset, a lot of guilds tried to rush to the top. White Tulip was one of these guilds. The difference is that after they got 7k points, they didn't cower down from anyone. They sparred just to spar, it didn't matter their numbers or odds or whoever else was in the room. They went down in points, but to me, they're a far more respected guild than a lot of those other snakes on the leaderboard.

I think all guilds should learn a lesson from White Tulip. Stop being concerned with score. Spar with your guild regardless of the environment.

They don't care about gs score, but they recruit ppl like hell

Fulgore 04-25-2015 09:43 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 556597)


They don't care about gs score, but they recruit ppl like hell

Well it's not like White Tulip is some big name guild like Mother/Alumni/SLX/WAR etc. People are going to leave, and people are going to help. I do although see people who are always on that tag, so they definitely have loyalty in the guild. They aren't exactly as established yet, but that wasn't the point. The point was that they don't run or cower from any kind of gs like 95% of guilds do. And the reason why I picked them is because they have shown that it's possible to get a high gs score by doing this. Even though they aren't very well known sparrers, you can't say it's selective spar because they fight anyone and everyone in any room. Most guilds will see 2-3 good sparrers show up in gs and bail. I remember a specific time where Dante and I were helping the guild, then we announced we were leaving to help get points for Alumni. Instead of stopping their gs or leaving the room, they tagged 2 far less experienced sparrers and continued, going vs Alumni and everyone else in there.

The point is, they do things how things should be done concerning guild spar. A lot of people can learn something from Queen Ariana and her guild.

Sardon 04-25-2015 09:46 PM

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Posted by NM (Post 556580)
Spar records, like 80% of the time, give u a good indication of how skilled a sparrer is.

Ive lost Beleif in positive scores that are legit

either you boost
Your negative
You spar selectivly selecting weak opponents only
you lag
you delay
vpn
you got the lvl3 sword

Ive never seen a sparer who Spars like I do

I enter a room i spar there for 30 min , idc if i lose i keep going and going and going till im bored and go offline

Im going to join the guild i think it may be a good guild.

Fulgore 04-25-2015 09:48 PM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 556612)
Ive lost Beleif in positive scores that are legit

either you boost
Your negative
You spar selectivly selecting weak opponents only
you lag
you delay
vpn
you got the lvl3 sword

Ive never seen a sparer who Spars like I do

I enter a room i spar there for 30 min , idc if i lose i keep going and going and going till im bored and go offline

There are literally no good sparrers, confirmed by Sardon.

Smitty 04-25-2015 10:39 PM

Pls son is the ultimate guild.

Red 04-27-2015 02:36 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 556554)
As of recently, I have been watching this guild and thought of how great an example they set for everyone else. They do things right. I just wanted to get the word out to all the rest of you.

The guild's name is White Tulip. This group of people does what every guild should do in pertinence to guild spar. When the scores were recently reset, a lot of guilds tried to rush to the top. White Tulip was one of these guilds. The difference is that after they got 7k points, they didn't cower down from anyone. They sparred just to spar, it didn't matter their numbers or odds or whoever else was in the room. They went down in points, but to me, they're a far more respected guild than a lot of those other snakes on the leaderboard.

I think all guilds should learn a lesson from White Tulip. Stop being concerned with score. Spar with your guild regardless of the environment.

LOL I CAUGHT THEM BOOSTING LAST YEAR

Multipas* 04-27-2015 06:58 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 556612)

Ive never seen a sparer who Spars like I do

I enter a room i spar there for 30 min , idc if i lose i keep going and going and going till im bored and go offline

.

this is how I spar ^


150-440 lol

Blu 04-27-2015 07:03 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 556834)
LOL I CAUGHT THEM BOOSTING LAST YEAR

I don't believe that, boosting is pretty much useless for guild spar.

G Fatal 04-27-2015 08:12 AM

@title zZ FATAL Zz .say nomore

twilit 04-28-2015 09:05 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 556900)
@title zZ FATAL Zz .say nomore

maybe you shouldve actually read the OP.. because this wasnt meant to be a listing thread

Xenthic 04-28-2015 09:59 PM

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Posted by Blu (Post 556896)
I don't believe that, boosting is pretty much useless for guild spar.

You say that but it does happen haha

Fulgore 04-28-2015 10:01 PM

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Posted by OG (Post 556834)
LOL I CAUGHT THEM BOOSTING LAST YEAR

"I also caught SLX, WAR, Alumni, and 300 other guilds boosting last year"

See, I can say things without proof too!

I'm in there quite a bit and never once have I seen them boost, nor does it make sense for them to. If they boosted, they wouldn't do the actions I described that they do. It would defeat the purpose.

My guess is that you're trying to discredit them in some way because you and whatever guild you affiliate with are more cowardly than they are.

G Fatal 04-28-2015 10:04 PM

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Posted by twilit (Post 557391)
maybe you shouldve actually read the OP.. because this wasnt meant to be a listing thread

hence why i said @title... also originally fataal was a spar group.

and at thread the whole point of every game is stats numbers etc wtf is the point in playing something to not care bwt it obviously they do look at board/s and check them out and prob just 'still do to get better.

Blu 04-28-2015 10:21 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 557435)
hence why i said @title... also originally fataal was a spar group.
and at thread the whole point of every game is stats numbers etc wtf is the point in playing something to not care bwt it obviously they do look at board/s and check them out and prob just 'still do to get better.

English plz

Fulgore 04-28-2015 10:26 PM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 557435)
they do look at board/s and check them out and prob just 'still do to get better.

Yes, but they don't do what most guilds do now (I know you probably won't know cause I never see you in the arena) which is selectively guild spar until they get a high score and then cower from all the good teams to protect their precious numbers. Example is JBB currently.

G Fatal 04-29-2015 08:33 AM

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Posted by Blu (Post 557450)
English plz

Its not thats hard to understand slang or shortened words.

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 557452)
Yes, but they don't do what most guilds do now (I know you probably won't know cause I never see you in the arena) which is selectively guild spar until they get a high score and then cower from all the good teams to protect their precious numbers. Example is JBB currently.

because I never play classic now because of all the things they put on game acting as if they will come eventually and never do.. even so if you was high in ldrbd why would they risk dropping alot of points when they already at top/near top and statistically one of the best.

that being said I agree with they should just fight but its there choice and you could always spar other guilds and take over them then they might play you.

Sardon 04-29-2015 11:01 AM

its all a trap


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