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Red 04-30-2015 12:40 PM

So is classic asleep right now, we haven't had a content update in weeks and the last 1 were trashy hats (besides the ninja 1), what is wrong with the servers staff it seems their "endless" creativity isn't "endless" at all.

Bump :x bc why not

G Fatal 04-30-2015 12:51 PM

Its been like that for yearsssss
..hey now they know they might add another door/gate/npc woooo!

Bryan* 04-30-2015 12:53 PM

Here's a bright idea, why don't you apply for the gfx team and/or development team and contribute to push for more content :D

Ash Ketchum 04-30-2015 12:58 PM

lol stop plz

Howl 04-30-2015 01:55 PM

Onnet Store will open on the 5th for Cinco de Mayo, guaranteeing that. They are also probably making a themed Nexus right now, it normally opens around this time, and there is always a lack of updates leading up to it, so hey, who knows.

Ivy 04-30-2015 06:10 PM

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Posted by Howlgraal (Post 558102)
Onnet Store will open on the 5th for Cinco de Mayo, guaranteeing that. They are also probably making a themed Nexus right now, it normally opens around this time, and there is always a lack of updates leading up to it, so hey, who knows.

I remember the last few cinco de mayos on classic and when they open nexus that's my favorite by far lol

Vicipower 04-30-2015 07:00 PM

We all know that already I guess, but instead of joining the "I like to complain but not do shhhhhhhh about it" club you can just stop.. and .. idk just stop.

Red 04-30-2015 11:16 PM

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Posted by Vicipower (Post 558182)
We all know that already I guess, but instead of joining the "I like to complain but not do shhhhhhhh about it" club you can just stop.. and .. idk just stop.

fite me n3rd

MrSimons 04-30-2015 11:23 PM

Have you not noticed that usually after releasing something new, something else new is typically not released for another few months. Thats done for a few reasons.
  • It takes time to develop quality content, and always quality > quantity
  • If new content is released too frequently that will begin to be considered the norm by players, when that stops happening you will get pissed and start complaining about how admins dont love you anymore.
  • Its just generally bad to flood the game with too much content at once

Shurikan 04-30-2015 11:25 PM

Classic's staff are hard-working, talented volunteers. They are players like you, who have worked hard to contribute to a game they love. Unless you want to pay them to push out content faster, step down and be patient.

Common Sense 05-01-2015 01:35 AM

Lmao

Ivy 05-01-2015 03:08 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 558282)
Have you not noticed that usually after releasing something new, something else new is typically not released for another few months. Thats done for a few reasons.
  • It takes time to develop quality content, and always quality > quantity
  • If new content is released too frequently that will begin to be considered the norm by players, when that stops happening you will get pissed and start complaining about how admins dont love you anymore.
  • Its just generally bad to flood the game with too much content at once

Must spread rep to you and Shurikan :'(

G Fatal 05-01-2015 05:27 AM

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Posted by Shurikangraal (Post 558285)
Classic's staff are hard-working, talented volunteers.

Come off it.

fp4 05-01-2015 05:50 AM

winter is coming

TD* 05-01-2015 06:16 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 558385)
winter is coming

After five books and five seasons, we're still waiting for that winter.

Yoshired 05-01-2015 06:38 AM

When you have a staff that is all volunteer based I think it takes a lot longer to get content out. As someone who has played for a while this is how the game has always been as far as major content updates go.

Admiral 05-01-2015 10:34 AM

we hibernate in the summer

G Fatal 05-01-2015 12:52 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 558385)
winter is coming

If its anything to do with scarf i.e give to another npc or end up getting a morph/gralats/bomb/hat for it what a waste it would be..saying that even a new place would be a bore if nothing new (quests/mazes/activities-bowling archery guild ctf etcetc)

MrSimons 05-01-2015 07:21 PM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 558418)
we hibernate in the summer

you british folk cant take the heat.

G Fatal 05-01-2015 07:32 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 558551)
you british folk cant take the heat.

heat, what is this?

Shurikan 05-02-2015 03:50 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 558379)
Come off it.

Sorry man, as a developer I appreciate the work that they put into the content released. I see reason behind defending volunteers who are making something for others to enjoy.

pacman 05-02-2015 07:13 PM

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Posted by OG (Post 558277)
fite me n3rd


When will you fight me?

Blu 05-03-2015 12:00 AM

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Posted by pacman (Post 558878)
When will you fight me?

Not trying to offend or take sides, but you seem pretty new to sparring.
Og would woop your ass any day sorry

Xenthic 05-03-2015 12:12 AM

If you're gonna volunteer to be staff at least put the ****ing work in Jesus, I'm sorry but there's only a few staff that do actual work for the server and that work is a little like near to nothing. I'm sorry but if you're gonna volunteer for something like this you must at least be prepared to produce some good content.

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Posted by Shurikangraal (Post 558285)
Classic's staff are hard-working, talented volunteers.

Good joke

Colin 05-03-2015 12:53 AM

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Posted by Shurikangraal (Post 558741)
Sorry man, as a developer I appreciate the work that they put into the content released. I see reason behind defending volunteers who are making something for others to enjoy.

Really loving the signature statue

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Posted by Blu (Post 558927)
Not trying to offend or take sides, but you seem pretty new to sparring.
Og would woop your ass any day sorry

Pacman has a spar alt with a really good record, saw him in mixed so not sure if he boosted but I don't think he did, either way it seems like an equal match.

Red 05-03-2015 01:21 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 558945)
Really loving the signature statue



Pacman has a spar alt with a really good record, saw him in mixed so not sure if he boosted but I don't think he did, either way it seems like an equal match.

check spar stories thread, my post

eevee2 05-03-2015 01:34 AM

Stop complaining and start helping if you want something.
Wasn't there a wise tiger who once said: If you want something done you have to do it yourself.

Xenthic 05-03-2015 02:24 AM

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 558960)
Wasn't there a wise tiger who once said: If you want something done you have to do it yourself.

No there wasn't because tigers don't speak English.

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Posted by eevee2 (Post 558960)
Stop complaining and start helping if you want something

Not everyone can be staff, I want a massive island with a city and a fort but wait how can I help? Oh I can't, I forgot I'm not a staff member and I don't do levels!

HeadJoker 05-03-2015 02:27 AM

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Posted by Xenthic (Post 558967)
No there wasn't because tigers don't speak English.



Not everyone can be staff, I want a massive island with a city and a fort but wait how can I help? Oh I can't, I forgot I'm not a staff member and I don't do levels!

They're the wise Tiger.
The wise has spoken.

Bryan* 05-03-2015 04:48 PM

Not everyone can contribute because like Xen said they aren't hired to be staff. The only time you would see players contribute is during Christmas. If you don't have a life, then go apply.

G Fatal 05-03-2015 09:56 PM

its not even as simple as that if you want to actually push graal further doing gfx/levels/ganis whatever alltogether (Dev) then you can't (On all servers) as none have apps for this only sectioned off to one thing. when there is people that can do more than that if they wanted to. so saying 'you do it yourself' etc doesn't mean that it'll ever be on the actual server and would be waste of time.

I really don't know why graal doesn't hire for Dev roles.. considering for years the ones in dev roles/highers haven't been updating as much of what players have wanted.(nothing against them they have lives etc. Im against not allowing more of them though (part dev roles atleast)as more would be done)

Bryan* 05-04-2015 01:02 AM

How many are on the development/levels staff for Classic?

Sardon 05-04-2015 02:59 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 559402)
How many are on the development/levels staff for Classic?

to embarrassed to say it
truth is nobody is on it only a few
because everyone knows classic is not going anywere

G Fatal 05-04-2015 04:25 PM

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Posted by Shurikangraal (Post 558741)
Sorry man, as a developer I appreciate the work that they put into the content released. I see reason behind defending volunteers who are making something for others to enjoy.

fair point, but my last post is pretty much why highers get the stick, as they leave it upto themselves to do stuff and don't have many beside them doing multiple tasks rather than the odd one subject to few levels/few hats etc when some of them are capable of doing more.. this is main reason not alot gets done as the team as a whole are only subjected to tasks of highers and to one paticular thing.(nothing actually against their work, just how most graal's are set out is flaw for progress imo)

Coco 05-05-2015 07:00 AM

http://i.imgur.com/XujHL.gif

kms 05-06-2015 04:47 AM

Staff aren't paid, we aren't even really "staff," we volunteer our time and efforts. If you would like to see something in the future, please make use of the feedback button or apply for a position.

I'll gladly accept donations for "better" content if you aren't pleased already. :shy:

Yoshired 05-06-2015 04:56 AM

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Posted by kms (Post 560719)
Staff aren't paid, we aren't even really "staff," we volunteer our time and efforts. If you would like to see something in the future, please make use of the feedback button or apply for a position.

I'll gladly accept donations for "better" content if you aren't pleased already. :shy:

Donations for what? If you volunteered you should be more than willing to provide more content without monetary incentives. I think the forums are a perfectly fine place to express a concern for new content but I agree they should leave it in feedback. Even if we dont show it im sure everyone is glad to have you guys around releasing things.

Gitaz 05-06-2015 04:57 AM

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Posted by kms (Post 560719)
Staff aren't paid, we aren't even really "staff," we volunteer our time and efforts. If you would like to see something in the future, please make use of the feedback button or apply for a position.

I'll gladly accept donations for "better" content if you aren't pleased already. :shy:

so you're a member of the staff team? if so, what are you?

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Posted by Yoshired (Post 560723)
Donations for what? If you volunteered you should be more than willing to provide more content without monetary incentives. I think the forums are a perfectly fine place to express a concern for new content but I agree they should leave it in feedback. Even if we dont show it im sure everyone is glad to have you guys around releasing things.

to be fair, they don't release a whole lot...

Gambit Drakul 05-06-2015 05:34 AM

There was barely any content when the game first came out on iPhone, All I remember was hats,PKing and Sparring oh and making new friends that's about it.

Crono 05-06-2015 11:14 AM

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Posted by Yoshired (Post 560723)
Donations for what? If you volunteered you should be more than willing to provide more content without monetary incentives. I think the forums are a perfectly fine place to express a concern for new content but I agree they should leave it in feedback. Even if we dont show it im sure everyone is glad to have you guys around releasing things.

Yeah, content...not quality content. The higher the quality the more time it takes. Most devs decide it's not worth it and either go half-ass on everything or just stop working.

Yoshired 05-06-2015 11:27 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 560796)
Yeah, content...not quality content. The higher the quality the more time it takes. Most devs decide it's not worth it and either go half-ass on everything or just stop working.

I honestly stopped playing the game for content a while ago, the last few things that theyve added I havent really enjoyed at all. Ive never even done the pyrat quest. Im more of a social player though. Is it really that half-assed?

Crono 05-06-2015 12:26 PM

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Posted by Yoshired (Post 560798)
I honestly stopped playing the game for content a while ago, the last few things that theyve added I havent really enjoyed at all. Ive never even done the pyrat quest. Im more of a social player though. Is it really that half-assed?

It is if I worked on it!

Ray Allen 05-06-2015 03:02 PM

i miss those days before they changed the tiles, before they had VIP, before it was even 2011. 2010 was the golden age. I remember glitching onto "Admin and Nimda Island", a land full of controversy. I swear man, I miss taking towers with Magic, Starvation, zZ FATAL Zz, and mostly AGK war section. There was this cool vibe that was always fun to have while playing during these days, everything seemed right. The moment when they gave out horses, the first Thanksgiving holiday shop in Onnett town. Man all of those things were so nice and I wish we could have a second chance to cherish them. When PULSE just hit 1K hours, when Slim became a GP, the biggest upset in administrative hiring history. When Rogue and Adogg were only GPs for a day, when NYN would have his cool parties (including one for his bday) at revolution, during my Magic days. It was all cool but man it's a shame everything comes and goes.

4-Lom 05-06-2015 08:02 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 560063)

I lol'd

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Posted by kms (Post 560719)
Staff aren't paid, we aren't even really "staff," we volunteer our time and efforts. If you would like to see something in the future, please make use of the feedback button or apply for a position.
I'll gladly accept donations for "better" content if you aren't pleased already. :shy:



Did both these things. Repeatedly. Frequented the forums. Helped countless wayward new players. Not even a response after a dozen or more applications for GP, GFX, Leveling... Got a cookie, but that's not anything compared to the amount of time I have spent reporting/testing bugs and acting as a stand in faq where the 'information kiosk' and the 'tutorial' fail the 8+ target audience's reading comprehension.


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Posted by Crono (Post 560806)
It is if I worked on it!

The honesty is admirable. Hats off, sir.

Multipas* 05-06-2015 11:29 PM

Someone make a graal gfx/gani/script/level editor app. Then have content contests

Admiral 05-07-2015 12:09 AM

I miss the golden days when there was no content

deadowl 05-07-2015 12:42 AM

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Posted by Multipas* (Post 561169)
Someone make a graal gfx/gani/script/level editor app. Then have content contests

There are gani and level editors. You can get them by downloading the PC client, logging in, and going to Start > Install Packages.

I don't know if the script editor in the level editor would work very well considering there probably wouldn't be any server connection to test serverside vs. clientside script execution.

Alternative tile editor that doesn't use Graal formats (afaik): Tiled Map Editor.

Can't think of any gani alternatives because Graal uses several different graphic elements within a single animation, whereas most games rely on sprite sheets.

Multipas* 05-07-2015 03:48 AM

For I devices? That's why I said app I don't have a computer just an iPad...

fp4 05-07-2015 03:48 AM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 561203)
I miss the golden days when there was no content

http://puu.sh/hEgEi/77fcab3635.jpg

Ray Allen 05-07-2015 06:43 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 561424)

Y'all need to start hiring more people for more staff positions


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