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Is there a graal classic rulebook with rules you must obey?

I've been asking for rules for ages, but I don't think there are any written rules currently. The best alternative is learning what you and other people have been banned for and not repeating those mistakes.

I really wish there was. Sometimes I feel like I'm playing minesweeper when it comes to graal. There is a bunch of unsaid rules, and when you break them, game over.

For graalians I was banned for making account with similar name to member that rarely posts on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people have similar names, and there is no rule written about this. But hey, I respect the moderators and so live and learn.

For Graal, I let someone get on my account, and then shortly after I was banned for "cheating." The guy said he could get me a specific hat, and instead he got me banned. I'm guessing it was someone from a guild that saw me as a threat, because after they got me banned they sent me a messages on kik laughing about it. It's cool, I doxed, I know who they are and revenge is coming. I spent a lot of money on that account, so I feel like they kind of crossed a line.

There are so many cool things I'd like to do on graal, but alas I don't know if I'll get banned.


I don't think anyone could of put it better

Much respect to the admins and moderators. I just think that the majority of people are not trying to break the rules. We all LOVE the game, and we LOVE spending money on the game. If we just had a clear set of rules, I bet most of us that are getting banned would not get banned. I love and respect the admins and moderators, I just wish they had a little more compassion for the players, and understood we are all here to just have fun.

Most of the stuff is self-explanatory, but really without a page that lists all of graal's rules, (such as terms of condition), then players in my opinion should not get penalized for anything.

Also, I'm unknowing of if there is or not

banned for making a sonic refrence

It really isn't self explanatory. For example if "bad words" is considered breaking the rules.. What's a bad word? There was a thread asking if "damn" is a bad word. I would say it depends on who you're talking to. For some it's bad for some is not. If the rule is enforced because they want to protect younger kids, then ok I understand. If that's the case let's be consistent and ban phrases like "shut up" because I know a lot of elementary schools do not allow this.

If it's not just about protecting younger children, and more about being polite, then more things would need to be banned. If we are worried about offending people then they would need to ban all religions, races, etc, anything that would offend someone.

Hacking - if someone "hacks" the game, of they're intentions is not to harm the game but reveal it's weaknesses, shouldn't a person be rewarded for this and not punished? Wouldn't they want to know the weak points of the game? If not, then make it a clear rule, explaining what the repercussion will be.

I know many games and sites that when you break the rule you have to click something saying you read the rules. This seems like a logical approach. I mean how can you really know someone knows the rules if you don't have a clear set of rules? The game consists of people from all around the works, different ages, different customs, different everything.. It's a bit unfair to assume everyone knows what the rules should be.

I try to look at graal from a business point of view. The more people you ban the less money you make. So if the game has to ban a lot of people the questions should be 1 how much money does the average person who is banned spend? 2. How much money does graal lose from banning people? How can graal help people not get banned? Would making the rules more clear help people from getting banned? Could the money that is saved from not banning people be used for the server? Could the money that is saved from not banning people help with lag? Could the money that is saved from not banning people help the overall game?

Again, I love and respect the admin, moderators, and the game. I just want to understand the punishing system. Is it to show power over the player, or is it to teach a lesson to the player breaking the rule? If it's to teach a lesson then I'm all for it, but how about teaching by making the rules clear? Just friendly advice, thank you for taking the time to read my rant.

Are there rules we must obey?
-yes...
But are those rules written down somewhere for players to be aware of?
-nooope
Why not?...
-idek

To start this post, GraalOnline Classic is rated 9+ meaning it is targeted towards a younger user base which should help you understand why they ban you for some of things you guys might say or do.

Let's tackle this whole 'damn' thing, because honestly I am pretty sure who ever claims to have gotten banned for that is clearly lying or hiding the rest of the story. A majority of words not meant to be said are blocked out but in some cases given the geographical playerbase some words might be a swear word in one country but not in another so they can not simply block out everything because of that reason.

An admin is capable of knowing whether or not you are swearing or talking with a bad language tone and can easily judge whether or not you deserve a ban for what you're saying.


The rules really are self explanatory, don't be disrespectful or harassing to other members of the game, just like we wouldn't want you to be here on Graalians.

You should not hack or cheat or abuse a bug in order to gain a game advantage, Pacman stated earlier this can 'help' them fix things, there's a reason support.toonslab.com is there, find a bug or glitch? Report it to them instead of making it a public issue where more users may then abuse it.

Also do not share your accounts because that is illegal.

Rules of Conduct as provided here ;

Please read these policies carefully so you understand the rules under which you can play GraalOnline and interact with the other players.

General

GraalOnline is presented on an AS-IS basis. Usage of the GraalOnline product indicates acceptance of this, and any risk that may imply. GraalOnline can only promise to make a reasonable effort to fix a software problem or to return service as quickly as possible (except in cases where the service interrupt is not related to the GraalOnline product itself). Only in cases of massive, unintentional account reset, GraalOnline will make reasonable efforts to restore any loss of player attributes, gralats, tools, etc. Otherwise, screenshots and individual witness are not acceptable proof.

Keep It Legal

No illegal activities are allowed in GraalOnline. You may not use Chat or Forums to publish, post, distribute or disseminate defamatory, infringing, obscene or other unlawful material or information, specifically, but not limited to, child pornography, bestiality or incest. Also, players may not promote the use or distribution of illegal drugs.

Players may not use GraalOnline to distribute urls to external sites which promote illegal activities and violate the code of conduct.

Players may not upload files or post messages that contain photos, music, software or other material protected by intellectual property laws, rights of privacy or publicity or any other applicable law unless they own or control the rights thereto or have received all the necessary consents. GraalOnline is not responsible for any use of anything you say or post.

IMPORTANT: Players risk immediate ban if they build, host or even promote sites and/or web content for facilitating cheating, threats of cheating and any type of hacking content.

Privacy

GraalOnline policy will respect each individual player's privacy to communicate unless there is a reasonable concern that such conversations relate to bug abuse, disruptive behavior, or other illegal activities. It must be made clear that all actions and conversations within GraalOnline are subject to monitoring. Should a player or players be suspected of illegal or abusive activity, GraalOnline reserves the right to use administration tools to monitor individuals' communications via chats and other private messages.

GraalOnline staff and personnel will never single out individual personal information when communicating to other players or outside parties. GraalOnline expects GraalOnline players to abide by the same respect for personal privacy. Personal information - age, address, personal email, phone numbers, etc. - should never be exploited, communicated between players. Any violations will be strictly punished.

Character Names

Generally, it is up to the player to decide the name for his or her character while playing GraalOnline . However, some character names will be considered abusive behaviour: for example, names indicating other specific player characters, the players themselves, GraalOnline staff, or any real-life personal information will not be accepted. It is also unacceptable to use profanity, racially or sexually explicit words or generally threatening wording as a player's character name. "Kill_XXXX" is an example of an unacceptable name. Judgment of what is and is not disruptive is entirely at the discretion of GraalOnline.

Chat and Forum

Discussion through onscreen chat, GraalOnline chat, and discussion forums is a part of the game. GraalOnline must not be used, however, to promote competing products or services. Individuals who actively promote other competing products or services within GraalOnline, may be locked out.

Another abuse of chat and forum privileges is when players use abusive language (cursing or threatening language), racial attacks or comments, or sexually explicit comments, either general or specific, when communicating to individual players, in the content of mass messages via the GraalOnline chat system, or via the discussion boards.

The GraalOnline Communications Forum (Message Boards) is used to discuss GraalOnline related content, gameplay, ideas, experiences. Constructive complaints and other healthy criticism that points out ways the game can be improved are welcome. Flame wars, personal attacks on players, and any unfounded criticisms will be removed. Abuses such as these will lead to players being banned from the Communications Forum. GraalOnline staff may lock out such abusive players.

Players may not promote anything sexually explicit, implications of racism, or vulgar online. This includes, but is not limited to, sharing URLs with others to websites that contain profanity, nudity, or anything else that violates the GraalOnline Rules of Conduct.

Players promoting content that is subversive to gameplay, promotes cheating, or any other hacking activities risk immediate ban. GraalOnline will have no tolerance for such activities.
Bug Abuse, Hacks and Trainers

This section refers to creating or using any program or technique resulting in unfair advantage via an undocumented feature or disrupting the datastream to and from the server. Such Memory Edits, Trainers, Anti-Idle Macros, Bots or any other 'hacks' destroy the balance of play in GraalOnline and reduce its effectiveness to remain an entertaining product. While a player may think that abusing a bug for personal gain may not affect others, the fact is that it distorts power, creates imbalances in riches, and is otherwise unfair to players abiding by normal game rules. Players must agree that the consequences of allowing bugs and loopholes to be exploited is so detrimental to the product, that GraalOnline will exercise no tolerance whatsoever for anyone participating in this type of activity.

Bugs should always be reported. If you observe someone else abusing a serious bug, or discussing a plan to abuse one, and fail to report it, you are subject to the same penalties as they are. Players should report bugs to the Graal forum, Support Center (support.toonslab.com) or email the problem to [email protected].

Rewards obtained from bug abuse may be confiscated, at GraalOnline' sole discretion. Failure to cooperate with GraalOnline as to the extent or nature of a bug, or failure to be honest about the rewards obtained from bug abuse, is grounds for immediate lock-out from GraalOnline.

Now this is something.

Okay! My name is Stephane Portha and I will write a 31 Handmade Official Rulebook of Graal Classic.

No. 1 obey god Stephane Portha
No. 2 Don;t advertise other games rather than good games.

Staff already know almost everything that can be hacked and glitched. If a guy goes and murders someone, should the police just say "Oh, we never thought to prevent that kind of crime before, have a reward!"?

Thats not how business is conducted either lol. Letting the rules slide for the people who have the money, thats called the Mafia.

I actually didn't know I couldn't share an account, but the rule makes since. I think this contributed to my ban.


I'm all for following rules whether I agree with them or not. I think it's important to follow the rules because the goal I believe is to make the game more pleasant for all. I just wish they would give warnings before banning people for 3 months especially if it's a first time offence


Not at all my friend. You're missing my point. Of course not a criminal should not be rewarded especially if they murdered. How would that benefit anyone.

However, hackers have been rewarded instead of put in jail. Good hackers will get hired by big corporations, FBI, CIA, etc..

Nonetheless, I'm not trying to get in a debate on whether or not criminals should be rewarded. I agree with you on the subject for the most part.

I'm all for following the rules. I didn't know there was a rule against hacking. The only thing I wish is that the rules and penalties were more clear. I probably would of never known about these rules had I not of came to this wonderful forum with all you helpful people who take time out of your busy schedules and donate it to cotton headed ninny muggins like myself who struggle with common sense.

Colin didn't mention anything about using an autobutton to farm for you.
kappa

Are you talking to me?

No, to Colin and the whole thread in general :).

The thing is the rules are unclear at what is cheating. Using an auto button to farm is that cheating? How could you tell if I was physically pushing the button or using something I created? You would have to illegally gain access to my computer to know, or just guess and ban someone based on assumption.

This section refers to creating or using any program or technique resulting in unfair advantage via an undocumented feature or disrupting the datastream to and from the server. Such Memory Edits, Trainers, Anti-Idle Macros, Bots or any other 'hacks' destroy the balance of play in GraalOnline and reduce its effectiveness to remain an entertaining product.

L2read

Fair enough.

i think there should be a rulebook , like a sign in graalcity with every singel rule listed on it , so the admins cant make there own rules .. Seriously it would help alot for all the new players. I like they way you can report players on iera because there are the most of the rules listed( like hacking , glitching ...)

6. Bug Abuse, Hacks and Trainers

This section refers to creating or using any program or technique resulting in unfair advantage via an undocumented feature or disrupting the datastream to and from the server.

I'm pretty sure an auto farmer would qualify as an unfair advantage. You can read all the rules by clicking the link in Colin's post.

Edit: My bad, I am on mobile so I can't copy and paste, it look me awhile to type that out and didn't catch you and Colin's posts.

@Colin, it's funny to see someone who knows so much about rules but also has a 4000 hour ban. :D

Read the second half of my post. Regardless, I already said fair enough.

sorry, as pacman said im not actually using a bot. im just pressing my finger on the key 24/7
dont ban pls

His quote is months old and I'm not even banned anymore, it got lifted. (even stated this before)

Should stop taking things personally and trying to call me out in every thread nobody really cares

Then you already know it isn't cheating, but you said autobutton implying it was being done automatically and not by you.

Dang I bet your needed your long ass post back then tho.

If such an intelligent individual such as yourself got banned. The rules should be made more clear, do you agree?

No problem bro. I'm mobile too. At the gym. Leg day. Hittin 900lbs on the leg press :D

Hmm why don't you shoot me a forum pm and we can talk about this? Oh wait...

Wait what? Is this an inside joke? Let me in on it

The rules for Graalonline were last updated Januray 01, 2003(it says at the end). I've been playing graal classic for 4.5 years and I never encountered them. Perhaps this is my fault for missing some small print somewhere, or not looking hard enough but I think that if the rules are still relevant, they should be able to be accessed more easily such as the URL being posted in the help section in game, and if they are not relevant they should be updated. Just my thoughts.

These rules are for Playerworld (the PC servers). It has never been established whether or not they apply to servers accessible via iOS, and there has never been any indication whatsoever from the staff that this is true. Furthermore I doubt most of the GPs know of their existence, much less actively follow them. The fact is that they are not advertised on iOS servers, they are not part of any terms of service that must be agreed to, and players never encounter them unless they are digging in areas unrelated to the servers they are actually playing on.

And now we are back to the beginning

Please read these policies carefully so you understand the rules under which you can play GraalOnline and interact with the other players.

I don't see it stating it is just for PC, it clearly says GraalOnline referring to any servers associated with the Graal part of Eurocentre, it is a general rules of conduct for all servers.

I'm just stating them for the people reading this thread and I agree with you on how they aren't advertised but really the rules are common sense.

Game is 9+ use your brains

how is kill_xxx a offensive name?

its one of those wierd names nine year olds use like
superaweseomeminecrafterguy

wouldn't offensive names be:
aldolf hîtler
xorsucksass
(realname and adress)

DONT SPAWN HIM

It means XXX would have a players name as in kill_SARDON, which can be seen as a form of harassment or bullying.

Again, it states the staff at hand have the right in judging whether or not it is actually offensive and needs to be dealt with.

Yes I can read or I wouldn't have been able to respond to your post. The question, though, is that if these rules are archaic and unknown to both staff and players, what weight do they really hold? Given that each of the iOS servers have independent GP/PR teams that handle bans in unique ways, it seems unlikely that each of the servers are pulling from the same body of rules. At best, these servers tend to be operating on a common-sense kind of mentality, which brings us back to the OP: it would be nice to have some legitimate rules to follow.

We've got some rules, super bump this thread until everyone who reads the forums knows they exist? Maybe a start.

Rulebook
 

I did not know this is true. Interesting.


Wait, why would adolf hurler be offensive? If so then you have to say George bush is offensive, and all other political references.

There is a guild named "thanks Obama". This is offensive. It's offensive to republicans because they believe that Obama is worst president. Unless the guild is mocking Obama by saying "thanks Obama". Then this is offensive to democrats.

Do you see my point? These rules are confusing and vague.

I don't view adolf's last name as offensive (it is censored in classic unless they changed it) the same way as I don't view someone having solely their middle finger extended as offensive. However, a lot of people do and majority rules, so yeah.

Why hitler is sensored and is concidered an offensive name?

its because aldolf hitler was worse than bush and started a world war.
its not about the politics its really about what this person did ....have you ever seen those concentration camps or heard those sad stories of the dozens killed in the war?
people concider him anti christ and his last name is illegal to use and jewish communities are more offended

although their are nazis out there and people who agree with the nazi mindset which does make it wrong to sensor it due to our pathetic accepting society

WHen it all comes down to it… HItler had innocent people killed and so did Bush. So if the word Hitler is blocked because of all of the innocent people he had killed, then so should a lot more politicians is all I'm saying.

You're telling me that Bush=Hitler?

Smh

No, do you know how to read?

Everyones actions contribute to the death of others, even if it isn't for a long time into the future. Butterfly effect. Not many people think that way though.

LOL use that argument in a court next time you murder someone.