House Editor
 

A system that lets us control and edit the house. Don't worry, this won't increase anything. Basically, it lets you move the building, the trees, the grass, the exit, the rooms inside the house, the river, etc to where ever you want, like a furniture. Of course, you won't be able to sell these lol.

If possible, let us buy more trees for out houses too, like the Christmas tree.

This is what i want also. So its like your creating your own house.

this has been discussed so many times :D

I feel like a make your own house would be better.

Maybe have level editing powers like the levels team, but just for house.

You could get to save 2-3 house designs :D, so you wouldn't have to redesign everything.

How would make your own house work? Like using Tile Editor? Or idk, they could sell extra rooms and such in a shop, and we can buy dirts, rocks, water, walls, trees etc. to create/build a house?

A level editor like the levels team does? I can totally see people spamming grass tiles everywhere in their house lol

Yep

This last point would be pretty cool

This would be pretty cool to make huge farms, maybe they could allow a maximum or grass tiles, like 100 is the max? or something like that. I really would like to see this added.

That would be too much tho. Because I don't think they would let us have that much grass tile in a house, considering what they gave us.

Yeah, but you would only get a certain number of each tile set.
That way you don't make a huge farm :D

You would need to have the necessary tiles before saving, otherwise the server will not let you save your house design.

Also, with a tile editor you could make house designs like the following:

1. Huge cave
2. Village
3. Cliffs
4. Bunch of trees, and house in middle

You could be able to make that legend of zelda dream house you always wanted.
Or heck, even Pallet Town.

Most of the guild houses average around 30-45 grass spots, and then there is the bushes as well, so it will only double the farm sizes now, which wouldn't be too big?

At least give us the ability to have house slots so I don't have to take apart my masterpiece of a house to make a new design :-(

:O The ideas! <3

To do this, you would have to have a level editor (which I support, but is completely impossible for mobile devices) because those trees and buildings are tiled, not npc images.

You are going to have to ask dusty, and he's going to have to ask rufus, rufus is going to have to ask stephane. I think that's the order...

Boy, you're in for a surprise.

OL WEST LEVEL EDITOR FOR PLAYERS CONFIRMED?!

This would be my dream, cuz I love decorating my house. <3

Bump
I didn't want to make a new thread.
So, I just made a video about it.

I just realized how hard it would be to use the tile editor on a touchscreen.

Enable Online Level Editor for everyones own house (not a live one, just a preview one with autosave every 30 minutes eventually, else lag)

and make it so that putting 1 tile down costs 10 gralats :) easy money so you can either buy an empty level or a predefined without level editor...or so

I made possibly the first gscript tile editor for Graal, and certainly for Classic, which I think was before the first Classic server wipe (maybe ~2005). It was more of a proof of concept than anything with an actual purpose, but could be somewhat useful for dev because you could show other devs different tiling concepts with it (It was not anywhere near as useful as Graal's offline tile editor for real work). It ended up being used for events at one point. There have been other online tile editors for Graal since IIRC.

Big question is whether you want players to have houses with horrible tiling.

R u massokre/jake13jake?

Yes.

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and for Wolfie

i bet theres ways to make a nice interface for a touchscreen that is userfriendly :) it shouldnt be so hard

Isn't actually that hard, I prefer that than the pc way in all honesty

You could do a level editor for mobile devices for sure. Worth the time? Probably not. It would be more worthwhile to make a patch to the Tiled map editor to support Graal level formats. However, that could be blocked by Graal's copyright and licensing issues... or just general disinterest by the developers contributing to the Tiled project.

That was fun to watch. Just FYI, I'm not 100% sure, but I may forever associate your voice with a blowfish with googly eyes wearing blush.

Historically people had their own custom-tiled houses uploaded if they were considered of reasonable quality. During my time, I let guilds have their own restricted-area guild houses on the overworld. Unfortunately the demand looks higher now, and I should add that the number of guilds is stupid and none of them have the loyalty of years past.

For an example of a past guild house, I let US have a guild house here:

http://www.graalonline.com/community...0.01018800.png

I believe Ventrue's guild house was built around Voluran's Mausoleum, and LOA's was in Master Li's Woods. I wanted each to have their own flag and a gate barrier for the basis of guild wars. I also imagined a system in which guilds could declare themselves enemies or allies of another guild and that would enable those guilds to build a collective defense, or offense, of a guild house. Before the wipe, these guilds (except maybe LOA) had their own areas that were much grander, but I don't recall them too well.

After the initial wipe, Master Storm had replaced Master Li's with the Brotherhood guild house, which most everyone hated (i.e. conflict of interest in regard to a prominent area on map). Eventually it got turned back into Master Li's.

Also, there have been somewhat scalable solutions to custom-tiled houses, but they all required staff uploads. I doubt that under the current model that the volunteer staff could handle identifying potentially malicious levels to be uploaded.

Stuff involving what you're talking about, it's not particularly feasible when compared to the value of other things that can be worked on without the same overhead.

-Make your own house
-You can purchase the house slot pack to save house designs

I would definitely get into house decorations. :D

Something like this
http://www.allclash.com/wp-content/u...all-design.jpg

wouldn't be that bad, if not great for graal.

An editor which comes with pre-made trees, gass patches, bushes, houses. Without the player having to place every single tile on the layout. Graal could even make that part of it's business and allow players to shop for recolors of the trees (Destiny trees/red trees), Lavafall and lava, instead of a waterfall and river. Would be great for a shop (Tile shop).

Thanks man, here is an apparent close up shot http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...path-prefix=en

Yeah, I saw the guild houses in the client, it was nice, because they were integrated. I wouldn't call some of those ghs "quality" though.

This is great!

But my main wishes would be to let us add rooms to guild houses, and to let us open them to the public

Rather than in game, why not a system similar to custom heads/bodies? Make your own level on the actual level editor then send it in, if it doesn't break any rules the layout can be added to your account?

This would encourage more players to get into LAT side, and tbh it sounds way simpler than an in - game level editor.

Because then people have to find the right tools, not everyone is using a pc to play graal. Not everyone is good enough, nor has the patience to design a level tile by tile.

Having it integrated into the game, is 100x better, and easier for the user. (If done as something similar to clash)

This is true...

Also, if the custom houses were implemented could we change the tilesets?

I can think of a few nexuses where I would have LOVED to have those tiles in my house/gh
The only issue is not having enough rooms in either house... :/

maybe sell tileset packs as a furniture bundle

Can they sell the old nexus tiles please
(Candy, Japan, and space are the best ones I can recall)

not everyone has the tools to make graphics either

The level editor is far less accessible though.

Back then i just had an idea where we can change the floors inside our house. There could be a rug/floor shop in destiny or something and you can buy a certain tile so you can pretty much make your whole floor inside your house look like the rug furniture

The problem is that the level would need to function properly. It's a lot less of a headache to have and integrated level editor, than to have a team handling level edit uploads (Having to be aware that they aren't uploading anything they shouldn't)

With a level editor that only let's you place what the game has, it's much safer, user friendly, takes less time, and less knowledge.

the thing is with ingame one i'm unsure if able to create warps etc(ik on one you can use images/tiles etc) but allowing warp coordinates etc would end up abused even the images allowed could aswell if not just set image of say tree/s etc. For server like classic with how many people would be lot of uploads aswell unless it had like 30k upload or something but that'd possible be for 1level that ends up matching upto inside levels of houses etc already ingame. idk I can understand why this hasn't been released on any server yet as there is lots to be overcome before it'd ever get to point of release thats kinda a shame.

If a tile editor gets implemented for house decorations, imagine how frustrating it would be to use your finger to pick up one tile. One tile is pretty small for the finger, especially on a touch screen device. I suggest when we enter tile editor mode, a joystick or d-pad or something will pop up on the left side of the screen, and a button will pop up on the right screen and there will be an arrow popping up in the middle of the tiles. What this will do is we will pick up the tiles using the arrow. The joystick or d-pad will be used for moving the arrow to the select a tile, and the button on the right will be use to pick up the tiles, and placing the tiles. Holding the button down will allow you to move and drag the arrow to pick up multiple tiles at once. Once the tiles is picked up, move the tiles to the spot you want to place it, and press the button on the right again to place the tiles down.

Idk, that's the only way I can see this working, because not everyone have small fingers, so just imagine using those large fingers to just select ONE tile. So unless everyone has a stylus for their phones or tablet, or some really small fingers, the tile editor will be very frustrating to use, unless we use the method described in the above paragraph.

Though asking for these features might be a bit too much, since I don't think the engine is even strong enough to add these things. (Not that I know how strong the engine is so I shouldn't talk)

Remember, this is to redesign the house, not adding more space. When you choose to move the house, the warp moves along with it. At least 90% of iDevice Graalians don't even know how to add scripts to warp, and adding points or coordinate, so we wouldn't do that. If they want more rooms in their house, staffs can sell warps, or even better, purchasable storage house or buildings. If they want to add an additional room to their guild house, then staffs can do an update on player houses and guild houses by adding more rooms and block it off. When you decide to purchase extra rooms, the blocked rooms will be unblocked. Of course, the blocked rooms won't just be a door that you can't enter, but it will be covered by walls. When you buy extra rooms. those walls will disappear.

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If purchasable tilesets are added, how much will they cost? I mean the space Nexus one seems like it would be pricey.

for iphones it'd be horrible to use but on ipad when i used a version it was much easier, I actually prefered the ipad vers than doing a level via pc because was more interactive just took little while to get used to how to use it. I don't think classic will do this idea though, its classic after all.

I agree!

Pretty cool idea

As sad as this statement may be, it's true. :(

If this gets implemented though, then they would have to remove some furnitures from the shops such as the tables, and the chair because those are apart of the tileset.

They need to add some decent looking coaches that are rotational. Fr

(I looked back in the news and with the modern furniture news release there was a nice brown couch image, where is it now tf)

How? I'm not really understanding this. It's like having an in game pixel editor to make your own customs, it almost seems pointless when there is dedicated software out there which would make the process 100x easier.

+ Its not like you need to learn how to level to do it, i'm sure that not everyone who uses customs actually knows how to pixel well. People would provide free layouts on websites (gfx blogs?) which others could take and upload for themselves.

Why can't we have NPC's and pets we can take care of? .-. I'm getting tired of buying pets and putting names on them.