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Rufus 08-15-2015 12:17 AM

Welp, at least we can now say someone ripped US off!!
 
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Munich, Germany - April 26th, 2015 - Do you believe in karma? vidiludi games & entertainment just released a major update for their new survival MMO Immune on Steam TM Early Access which features a unique karma system to make the game enjoyable for PVE and PVP players alike. The system rewards friendly players with a high karma which finally turns them into "saints", who are immune to damage from other players. Of course your karma still drops immediately if you hurt other players depending on the value of your victim. This feature makes Immune one of the first anarchic survival games to enable PVP and PVE players to play next to each other in the same world.
http://gamasutra.com/view/pressrelea...jor_update.php

Crono 08-15-2015 12:21 AM

The tables have turned.

kenthefruit 08-15-2015 12:24 AM

LOL

Aguzo 08-15-2015 12:31 AM

How did they rip you guys off?

Didn't know graal invented zombies, crafting, and guns...

Did TS invent karma/ap feature? No one else had this before?

Anyways, it looks like a fun survival game.

Rufus 08-15-2015 12:35 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604542)
How did they rip you guys off?

Didn't know graal invented zombies, crafting, and guns...

Did TS invent karma/ap feature? No one else had this before?

Anyways, it looks like a fun survival game.

wat is ts

Aguzo 08-15-2015 12:36 AM

ToonSlab, if the name hasn't been changed already.

Rufus 08-15-2015 12:38 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604545)
ToonSlab

'Karma' isn't foreign on MMORPGs but I'm pretty sure the AP system, being a saint, and all the stuff that goes with it is a Graal-specific concept.

Aguzo 08-15-2015 12:43 AM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 604547)
'Karma' isn't foreign on MMORPGs but I'm pretty sure the AP system, being a saint, and all the stuff that goes with it is a Graal-specific concept.

And they will probably get all the credit, since their game is more so original than graal.

They were smart enough to put their game on steam too.

Rufus 08-15-2015 12:43 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604552)
And they will probably get all the credit, since their game is more so original than graal.

They did because the URL I posted is a press release that has been published on a few websites. Why didn't we do a press release when we re-released the AP system on Classic?!

Dusty 08-15-2015 12:45 AM

Looks like they also have hats, wtf!?!

Ash Ketchum 08-15-2015 12:45 AM

It's not a big deal. Their game will never make it anyways

Aguzo 08-15-2015 12:46 AM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 604556)
It's not a big deal. Their game will never make it anyways

Watch it get 100,000 views on twitch :D

twilit 08-15-2015 12:47 AM

Disappointed. When I read the first line, "Do you believe in karma," I thought the article was going to be about some game ripping off graal as "karma" for graal ripping off zelda.

Aguzo 08-15-2015 12:53 AM

If graal was on steam, it would have it's own twitch title.

Then, demrow would stop making mlg threads, because it would have it's own ladder on GB.

More money, better servers, graal becomes the #1 pass-time/afk mmorpg.

MetaCritic score 10/10.

"The Game Zelda fans have always wanted" - IGN

"The place where anything is possible" - MetaCritic

"The community is great" - Gamespot (Paid by TS)


Then, TS can file a lawsuit and get some money from "Immune".

kenthefruit 08-15-2015 12:55 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604565)
If graal was on steam, it would have it's own twitch title.

Then, demrow would stop making mlg threads, because it would have it's own ladder on GB.

More money, better servers, graal becomes the #1 pass-time/afk mmorpg.

MetaCritic score 10/10.

"The Game Zelda fans have always wanted" - IGN

"The place where anything is possible" - MetaCritic

"The community is great" - Gamespot (Paid by TS)


Then, TS can file a lawsuit and get some money from "Immune".

yes, because adding Graal to Steam is the solution to all

Aguzo 08-15-2015 12:56 AM

Look what Immune did (Steam), now how can one prove that Classic did it first?

Maybe updates log?

Zideruic 08-15-2015 12:56 AM

The most unrealistic thing he said in that post was "the community is great"

twilit 08-15-2015 12:57 AM

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Posted by zideruicmirage (Post 604569)
The most unrealistic thing he said in that post was "the community is great"

Thats why he added "(paid for by ToonSlab)" it was sarcastic.

Zideruic 08-15-2015 01:04 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 604570)
Thats why he added "(paid for by ToonSlab)" it was sarcastic.

i know guy

Snow Noob 08-15-2015 02:35 AM

let's sue guys, lel

Fulgore 08-15-2015 02:37 AM

At first I thought title was talking about (US) and I thought that was pretty uncharacteristic of Rufus to be concerned over US guild ripoffs but I see now.

First step to Graal at EVO guis, being copied off of.

MattKan 08-15-2015 02:50 AM

Your debt has been 0.1% paid. Please continue to make monthly payments.

Sardon 08-15-2015 03:00 AM

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Posted by zideruicmirage (Post 604569)
The most unrealistic thing he said in that post was "the community is great"

lmfao

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 604608)
At first I thought title was talking about (US) and I thought that was pretty uncharacteristic of Rufus to be concerned over US guild ripoffs but I see now.

First step to Graal at EVO guis, being copied off of.

same I thaught he was talking about (US)

Bryan* 08-15-2015 03:33 AM

I'm very confused, may someone explain?

Pickles 08-15-2015 03:38 AM

When I read this I thought it was pretty damn funny. It actually sort of doesn't work for the game it is, anyway. We should all contact the devs and **** with them about "stealing our idea."

Mio 08-15-2015 05:06 AM

Immune is a better game anyways.
Note: There are alot of games with immunity and karma etc.

Ash Ketchum 08-15-2015 05:22 AM

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Posted by Mio (Post 604661)
Immune is a better game anyways.
Note: There are alot of games with immunity and karma etc.

please list some games that call their immunity "saint" and has the same concepts as our AP system you degenerate

Its not surprising that they stole an idea from iClassic. I mean, the company has most of their games on the App store and Play store so it makes sense that they steal ideas from other app games

Aguzo 08-15-2015 05:33 AM

Dark souls 2, if you invade too many people your soul memory gets higher, and you have to face tougher opponents.

Dark souls 1, if you invade a lot of people, your sin will rise, and you will then be added to the "book of the guilty". Increasing your chances of having to fight people in Darkmoon Covenant (Higher level players, with way better equipment + stats). You won't be taken out of the book, until you die by an invader.

I'll try to find specific "saint" games, but I don't think TS owns that title...

Ash Ketchum 08-15-2015 05:38 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604671)
Dark souls 2, if you invade too many people your soul memory gets higher, and you have to face tougher opponents.

Dark souls 1, if you invade a lot of people, your sin will rise, and you will then be added to the "book of the guilty". Increasing your chances of having to fight people in Darkmoon Covenant (Higher level players, with way better equipment + stats). You won't be taken out of the book, until you die by an invader.

I'll try to find specific "saint" games, but I don't think TS owns that title...

do you even play iClassic or are you just here to bait people with stupidity

Aguzo 08-15-2015 05:42 AM

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Posted by Pickles (Post 604672)
wat?

I thought we were talking about similarities. Which game has; if you are a pacifist you become immune to basic attack damage from other players? If anything those concepts are more of a punishment for being too much of a jerk.

It pretty much means, once you invade/kill someone, you will be put in the "book of the guilty". People will start invading you more often, until you ask for a pardon.
If you pk on graal you become a "sinner", and not a "saint". You have to afk, and not kill anyone, until reaching 100 ap.

Found it: Saint's Flow in saint's row the third allows you to become invincible.

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 604673)
do you even play iClassic or are you just here to bait people with stupidity

I'm just stating facts and my ideas.

Sardon 08-15-2015 08:01 AM

This game copied my forums karma system
im puting a lawsuit together against them brb

Admiral 08-15-2015 08:46 AM

lol I like Aguzo's optimism

Pickles 08-15-2015 09:54 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604674)
It pretty much means, once you invade/kill someone, you will be put in the "book of the guilty". People will start invading you more often, until you ask for a pardon.
If you pk on graal you become a "sinner", and not a "saint". You have to afk, and not kill anyone, until reaching 100 ap.

Found it: Saint's Flow in saint's row the third allows you to become invincible.


I'm just stating facts and my ideas.

Wait, what? I have played all of the Saints Row games to 100% completion multiple times. Since when has Saints Flow ever been drinkable in any of these? Especially SR3 since you can not in any way buy 40's or blunts at gas stations to fill up your grenade pouches. I do not agree with this!

EDIT: You dumby! You didn't even read/understand the whole story behind that can of Saints Flow in Trouble With Clones. Jimmy used that same RADIATED can of Saints Flow to re-create Johnny Gat, which failed, so he gave it to The Boss. Then The Boss gets SUPER POWERS (including invincibility) for the rest of that DLC's missions. Ahhh!!!! And furthermore, Saints Flow is a marketing scheme because it is said to taste like an "ass-tasting-energy-drink" but everyone buys it because the Saints have their faces on it.

Okay, my fanboy rage is finished.

EDIT2: "If cocaine and coffee ****ed in an alley, this would be the baby they left in the trash can." - The Boss (To further prove that Saints Flow is actually ****.)

Aguzo 08-15-2015 10:11 AM

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Posted by Pickles (Post 604708)
Okay, my fanboy rage is finished.

Not a true fanboy, you didn't play the dlc...



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Posted by Admiral (Post 604701)
lol I like Aguzo's optimism

Who knows, maybe one day ToonSlab will become as cool as Riot, Epic, ...Bethesda.

Pickles 08-15-2015 10:18 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604709)
Not a true fanboy, you didn't play the dlc...





Who knows, maybe one day ToonSlab will become as cool as Riot, Epic, ...Bethesda.

He very clearly says in the beginning that the Saints Flow is tampered with! Irratiated Saints Flow!!!!!

And if anything, The Saints are not in any way alignment based either. They are a gang called The Saints.

What was that about ME not playing the DLC?

Aguzo 08-15-2015 11:02 AM

At first I mentioned Dark Souls based on the alignment category, in which you are punished if you kill others. You kill you become a sinner. You get pardoned, you don't become a saint, but you do get less invaders.

I was not looking for the "immunity", until someone mentioned a Saint specific name for it.

Saint's flow gives that immunity/invincibilty effect. (You can't get hurt by anything except melee)

Just researched some more, and Fable 2 also has "The Saint" title. Which gives you a halo by doing good things.

Admiral 08-15-2015 11:10 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604709)
Who knows, maybe one day ToonSlab will become as cool as Riot, Epic, ...Bethesda.

Maybe one day, if Unix decides to upgrade the servers, hire some real devs to deliver some behind the scenes updates (new rc, new tools etc.) market the game the best he could, push his product onto different platforms, create a consistent cycle of new content/expansions to keep the player base entertained etc.

I mean he's had over a decade to do this, but yea maybe one day we never know

Rufus 08-15-2015 12:11 PM

Also find games that change the color of your name to correspond to your 'karma' ie saints having gold names.

MBK 08-15-2015 12:25 PM

Comeon people!sometimes even Rufis wants to make troll Threads.Stop being so salty.

Aguzo 08-15-2015 12:46 PM

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Posted by Rufus (Post 604718)
Also find games that change the color of your name to correspond to your 'karma' ie saints having gold names.

http://www.alteraeon.com/articles/alignment.html
Looks like ivy/shadowfax was trying to sneak this by.

She even had her username changed recently.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/member.php?u=5084

Rufus was meddling around, asking too many questions ever since he became ol' west's new sheriff, and using words like "welp".

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Posted by MBK (Post 604722)
Comeon people!sometimes even Rufis wants to make troll Threads.Stop being so salty.

Maybe, still a funny/fun topic to discuss about. Maybe I'm the only one enjoying this thread, who knows...

Rufus 08-15-2015 12:47 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604725)
http://www.alteraeon.com/articles/alignment.html
Looks like ivy/shadowfax was trying to sneak this by.

She even had her username changed recently.
http://www.graalians.com/forums/member.php?u=5084

Rufus was meddling around, asking too many questions ever since he became ol' west's new sheriff, and using words like "welp".



Maybe, still a funny/fun topic to discuss about. Maybe I'm the only one enjoying this thread, who knows...

You keep referring to alignment/karma systems that are not the same. I think you're missing the point here.

MBK 08-15-2015 02:21 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 604725)

Maybe, still a funny/fun topic to discuss about. Maybe I'm the only one enjoying this thread, who knows...

sarcasm intended. <3

Saber Alumba 08-15-2015 11:13 PM

Pretty sure graal classic was originally a zelda rip off online game anyways ?

kenthefruit 08-15-2015 11:47 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 604888)
Pretty sure graal classic was originally a zelda rip off online game anyways ?

well considering this thread is about the AP system, and not the fact that GraalOnline was originally a Zelda rip-off. This has no merit here.

MrSimons 08-16-2015 12:06 AM

I love how the point of this thread is going over everyone's head...

"Graal ripped off X, Y, and Z"... yeah, that's kinda the irony here.

MIWolverine 08-16-2015 12:50 AM

Fable did the whole saint and satanist thing

Sardon 08-16-2015 03:10 AM

roofis is not mod anymore?

Colin 08-16-2015 03:17 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 604926)
roofis is not mod anymore?

He was de-modded because it turns out he's the one who leaked the AP system to vidiludi games & entertainment. (company mentioned in article, owners of the game)

Aguzo 08-16-2015 03:19 AM

Someone should report this to Lionhead Studios :p

Didn't know that fable invented the saint alignment system.

Looks like both TS, and Vidiludi Games are both "going down".

Imprint 08-16-2015 03:34 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 604926)
roofis is not mod anymore?

He's been rigging the gst for years.


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