Need Help Relating to a Ban
 

So I know I'm not supposed to do this on the forums, but the way Classic's system is, they really don't leave you any choice. I'd prefer a classic admin who actually will take this seriously please read this and respond to me. Here's the story:
I was at the grotto, I stole gralats from some guy, I was reported, and an admin warned me for Game Disruption. I went back to the grotto and was astonished you could be banned for "stealing" gralats in a public farm, so anyways I only stole from him because he steals from me (not that it matters why) and so I figured I could farm then if there's an admin there that won't let you steal, so I did. And that guy got on his mount and started trying to steal my gralats. I reported him then, figuring the same would happen to him. I ended up getting banned for "Hacking or Cheating" for over 2.1k hours. I sent a ticket to toonslab, but Classic doesn't require evidence for a ban, so I guess they treat their tickets like a joke, anyways, my appeal was denied because it wasn't properly looked into to begin with. I find it absurd I was banned for Hacking because I stole gralats, and then I even stopped and started farming myself, he stole, and I got banned. My guess is the staff member thought those were his bombs while we were both trying to get the gralats. Anyways, I don't see why taking gralats in a public farm deems a ban, let alone with the reason for hacking. I did not say one word to the person or anyone, so inappropriate language/harassment wasn't a part of the situation. I want to show my credibility that I'm not one of those players that twists the story for when they in actuality did something, and I get this situation is so absurd-sounding that that might be most people's impression. I used to be a ZP/ZP Captain on iZone and a PR on iEra, so that I know the rules & the system. That doesn't mean I didn't hack (even though I didn't) but that shows I do know about this stuff. Anyways, I'm just looking for some help from someone who will take this seriously, since it didn't happen on toonslab.

Almost the same thing happened to me, I was in my guild house and called my friend an asswipe for beating me and got a 2.1k hour for hacking.
If only there was evidence for bans lol

Nothings going to change, sadly most admins are over-sensitive and or don't actually know what the correct punishment is for an action.

If this really happened then that's ****ing hilarious

I actually laughed at first of the absurdity of it. And yea, Classic doesn't require evidence, which is extremely unprofessional and a major flaw in the system. Now though, I actually want someone in the classic staff to take this seriously.

And the sad part is I know my ban wouldn't be overturned, due to me having a history. But my last history was from years ago. I had been banned for hacking before for doing a glitch (like the guild house glitch or something) and once for not being able to die because I was touching a sign.... I know classic just looks at your history when deciding to appeal the bans, and the fact that I haven't had any ban history in years should count towards my appeal.

Game Disruption

hey, I can relate to your entire post and I'd hate to say this but the only way of getting unbanned right now is through Toonslab.. sorry
I don't know of any GPA that actively browses Graalians nowadays

I guess now if a noob tells me to "stop pking tower or get reported" i'll actually need to pay heed to what it says.

If it makes you feel any better I've been banned numerous times for glitching/hacking; the two person mount glitch, Guild House jumping, Cheat Engine, etc, but the one time I was wrongfully banned, I submitted a ticket to Toonslab, and within no time it was overturned. I'm sure yours will be too.

If it isn't just talk to Pharaoh, he's a cool guy, and he's pretty understanding. He helped me out with my ban, and I'm sure if you explain the situation to him he won't turn a blind eye.

Thank you. My problem is I didn't know any classic staff so I couldn't even try talking to anyone, which is why I came here. I sent a ticket already but my appeal was denied. Although now I don't know how to reach Pharaoh since I'm banned in-game

I'll talk to him and direct him to this thread

Legend has it that if you rep every post dusty has made he'll unban you

Classic doesn't use the evidence system anymore? So now those 12 years old admins can wrongfully ban players?

thank you very much!

yep

I say fire all the current admins, except for a few admins whom are doing a great job.

On the bright side, you finally have a chance to go outside.

Lol, +rep

Sounds funny, I see people steal in the grotto all the time and no punishment happens to them.

Try spamming the report button?

Even then what's the point? How can stealing gralats in a public place be considered game disruption? I can understand if he's lag blocking in a tower but taking gralats that aren't locked or have anyone's name on it in a public place shouldn't warrant a ban.

True, but we don't know the full truth of the ban.

Well that sadly was the whole true story. And in actuality, I got warned for stealing, then I came back, started farming, that person then stole from me, and I got banned then.

I'm mainly going with the story. I'm not surprised one bit at the warning, it's like me saying "I'm taking a sh*t" and getting warned for it when the word isn't censored but using it warrants a ban. I don't think pig is lying anyways, he's not stupid enough to cheat on a game he has played for years.

The Toonslab support for Classic works just like the support for Zone/Era, if you send in a ticket it will be looked into properly - having your appeal denied means you did something you shouldn't have. Requesting an in-game staff member to help will not get you unbanned and all ban appeals should be done through Toonslab support where they will be properly looked into.