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Golden Panda 10-15-2015 12:59 PM

Consequences of this person macroing
 
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This guy is macroing and nothing has happened (im sure something will, not the reason why in here) Im just wondering what would the consequences be? Would it be gralats taken away? Banned for a long time? Getting taken off the leaderboard?

Shiz 10-15-2015 01:03 PM

Macro = a jail, then reset of that skill.

Since that isn't a skill, all of his gralats would be removed.
If he bought things with the money he made, we remove it.

All of it is logged.

Xenice 10-15-2015 04:11 PM

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Posted by Shiz (Post 622330)
Macro = a jail, then reset of that skill.

Since that isn't a skill, all of his gralats would be removed.
If he bought things with the money he made, we remove it.

All of it is logged.

In my opinion, they should be removed from the leader-boards as well - or is that not possible?

Senpai Enigma 10-15-2015 04:14 PM

They should have the push and pull players that way if someone is macroing you can move them elsewhere and have an admin see that

Jent 10-15-2015 05:11 PM

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Posted by Senpai Enigma (Post 622364)
They should have the push and pull players that way if someone is macroing you can move them elsewhere and have an admin see that

They do that. Awhile back I reported someone micromining and they moved him to make sure if he was using micro. After that I dont know if he got jailed, reseted or graals removed. They said they only disconnected him.

Senpai Enigma 10-15-2015 05:41 PM

Allow players to grab and pull each other is what i meant, say an admin isnt on and you see someone macroing, you can move that player away from the spot. Like era on client players would move another player if they kept digging in the same spot

Clown 10-15-2015 05:54 PM

Disconnect, warn, ban, reset

Jent 10-15-2015 05:57 PM

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Posted by Clown (Post 622388)
Disconnect, warn, ban, reset

Ouch.

Eugeen 10-16-2015 12:06 AM

Ah well be happy that it's just some noobs macroing every now and then and not people who actually create bots

Alexmo 10-16-2015 12:18 AM

What are you doing when your Marcoing

Santa Claus 10-16-2015 01:25 AM

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Posted by Clown (Post 622388)
Disconnect, warn, ban, reset


Clown would know since he did micro.

I don't know if you are still clean.

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Posted by Alexmo (Post 622536)
What are you doing when your Marcoing


It's a program that allows your app run on its own doing one thing.

Tapping walking and so on. Which isn't allowed

Kitsune 10-16-2015 02:31 AM

Can someone explain what macroing is exactly? IS it just being able to abuse a skill to get higher level in a skill and/or getting gralats fast using jobs?

Santa Claus 10-16-2015 02:42 AM

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Posted by Kitsune (Post 622564)
Can someone explain what macroing is exactly? IS it just being able to abuse a skill to get higher level in a skill and/or getting gralats fast using jobs?


To use a program to repeat a motion. Which can be used to do the jobs or skills over and over without being near your computer. Software that wasn't made by the game.

Abuse to get Gralats or to level up.

Jent 10-16-2015 02:48 AM

Sometimes things are added near jobs to prevent macroing. Bats at mining and probably pks around cutting wood. For fishing well.. fishes go where they want

Eugeen 10-16-2015 09:49 AM

Macroing is automating actions by using a program/tool. For example you can record your keyboard pressing up, up, right, left, down, down and it would be able to play those actions repeadetly.

Bots are a lot better though, they seem like the same thing but they actually have some sort of brain. For example it could scan a certain area in a game and go to the nearest tree to cut and if an admin would drag it then it could simply unstick itself and run back. I doubt anyone would ever create a bot for graal though, doesn't have enough potential.

Albie 10-16-2015 10:00 AM

I could probably create a bot for graal with color sensors, it would take ages though and would make it boring.

Eugeen 10-16-2015 10:29 AM

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Posted by Albie (Post 622649)
I could probably create a bot for graal with color sensors, it would take ages though and would make it boring.

Anyone could with a bit of googling and youtube but why would you waste your time on making a bot for a game that has no value in real life, I mean like people tend to bot games to sell the gold for real life cash which for graal would never work

Vulcan Blaze 10-16-2015 10:36 AM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 622655)
Anyone could with a bit of googling and youtube but why would you waste your time on making a bot for a game that has no value in real life, I mean like people tend to bot games to sell the gold for real life cash which for graal would never work

Ive witnessed someone sell items for real life cash, which is USD, but people are still willing to risk their account beeing banned/reset by using real money to buy other items. So people are willing to buy graal things for real life money.

Alexmo 10-16-2015 11:39 AM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 622648)
Macroing is automating actions by using a program/tool. For example you can record your keyboard pressing up, up, right, left, down, down and it would be able to play those actions repeadetly.

Bots are a lot better though, they seem like the same thing but they actually have some sort of brain. For example it could scan a certain area in a game and go to the nearest tree to cut and if an admin would drag it then it could simply unstick itself and run back. I doubt anyone would ever create a bot for graal though, doesn't have enough potential.

Just imagine a bot in zone pick up trash for two weeks straight

Eugeen 10-16-2015 12:48 PM

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Posted by Vulcan Blaze (Post 622657)
Ive witnessed someone sell items for real life cash, which is USD, but people are still willing to risk their account beeing banned/reset by using real money to buy other items. So people are willing to buy graal things for real life money.

Still graal stuff is worthless and I was talking about it with a business like perspective. Botting graal is a waste of time unless you want to screw up the economy without any/low money gains.

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Posted by Alexmo (Post 622661)
Just imagine a bot in zone pick up trash for two weeks straight

Botting on any graal would result in tons of money per hour as you could set up multiple accounts. Just a heads up, classic has macro detection hence why a bot would be the only option there.

If people wonder why I know this stuff, I'm currently running 20 runescape bots to farm gold :)

Vulcan Blaze 10-16-2015 12:51 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 622687)
If people wonder why I know this stuff, I'm currently running 20 runescape bots to farm gold :)

Hmmm I wondered why I kept seeing you in Graal Ol'West, randomly running around the map like a loop!
Joke lel

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Posted by iBubble (Post 622687)
Still graal stuff is worthless and I was talking about it with a business like perspective. Botting graal is a waste of time unless you want to screw up the economy without any/low money gains.

Ye, I see what u mean about this now, pretty worthless xD

Eugeen 10-16-2015 12:53 PM

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Posted by Vulcan Blaze (Post 622690)
Hmmm I wondered why I kept seeing you in Graal Ol'West, randomly running around the map like a loop!
Joke lel

Tbh if there was a real demand for it and I'd be able to make 10 us dollars a hour or more I would but selling gralats to underage kids isn't ideal xD

Clown 10-16-2015 02:19 PM

Bots are great if used legally - im making around £20 a day on top of whatever else I earn, and increasing by farming fifa coins searching the market for players going cheap and automatically relisting them for a few more coins. Easy profit, especially when you're out doing something you actually want to do

Kitsune 10-16-2015 08:58 PM

wow, thanks for telling me cuz ive seen a few people that just stand there continuing to cut the same tree over and over so I'll be sure to make sure I know whether or not its cheating

Eugeen 10-16-2015 09:03 PM

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Posted by Kitsune (Post 622773)
wow, thanks for telling me cuz ive seen a few people that just stand there continuing to cut the same tree over and over so I'll be sure to make sure I know whether or not its cheating

Easiest way to check is just asking something to see if they answer or not :p

TomatoPanda 10-16-2015 09:26 PM

Tbh I don't think there should be a warning if someone's cheating it should be automatic reset in that skill and gralats

Eugeen 10-16-2015 09:54 PM

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Posted by TomatoPanda (Post 622782)
Tbh I don't think there should be a warning if someone's cheating it should be automatic reset in that skill and gralats

Well you have to keep in mind that some might be really young who spent their real money in the game aswell, one warning seems appropriate to me

Senpai Enigma 10-16-2015 10:43 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 622787)
Well you have to keep in mind that some might be really young who spent their real money in the game aswell, one warning seems appropriate to me

sometimes people talk to me and i ignore them, ezpz they probably do the same and doesnt mean they are macroing

Eugeen 10-17-2015 12:05 AM

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Posted by Senpai Enigma (Post 622804)
sometimes people talk to me and i ignore them, ezpz they probably do the same and doesnt mean they are macroing

Yeah but the way they move already gives it away hence why the second check is to talk to them. Thought that was common sense. There's a clear difference in macro movements and human movements as macros are exact steps being repeated

Alexmo 10-17-2015 12:28 AM

Hey how do you build a bot just to waste time because I'm bored and stupid

Rolense 10-17-2015 12:50 AM

Reported one whose continuesly cutting tress, Thanks to xenice he got what he deserves. Boom!

Xenice 10-17-2015 03:42 PM

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Posted by Rolense (Post 622868)
Reported one whose continuesly cutting tress, Thanks to xenice he got what he deserves. Boom!

Thank you for the report. If you catch anyone else macroing, do not hesitate to report or pm me directly.

Santa Claus 10-17-2015 04:24 PM

People thought I Marco lol. I don't really talk to people since I am watching a show or playing a game while I use the Facebook app for it which holding the space down auto cuts for you.

Clown 10-17-2015 04:28 PM

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 623063)
People thought I Marco lol. I don't really talk to people since I am watching a show or playing a game while I use the Facebook app for it which holding the space down auto cuts for you.

This

On the off chance I was doing skills legitimately I would have someone pop up to me and try to **** me over

Eugeen 10-17-2015 04:30 PM

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Posted by Clown (Post 623066)
This

On the off chance I was doing skills legitimately I would have someone pop up to me and try to **** me over

I remember different with the old mining system rofl I had to spend 9 hours of mining a day to keep up cus everyone else was macroing, I remained #1 rocks mined for quite a while tho

Santa Claus 10-17-2015 06:00 PM

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Posted by iBubble (Post 623068)
I remember different with the old mining system rofl I had to spend 9 hours of mining a day to keep up cus everyone else was macroing, I remained #1 rocks mined for quite a while tho


And then they outlawed it and everyone disappeared lol.

Eugeen 10-17-2015 06:35 PM

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 623097)
And then they outlawed it and everyone disappeared lol.

They never got reset so yeah I just gave up


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