graalians community, should we ressurect izone.
 

All right graalians, first this is not going onto the izone forums because im talking to everyone. Second iZone is the server that has the most potential over any other server on igraal by a longshot. iZone is nearing its death. I went onto zone play forums (that is a mess now btw, if you value your eyes stay away from it) to see only 190 players ingame. 190 god damn players? when I was playing we was at a strong 500-700 average on school days and thats not including the west coasters. So izone is obviously on a mass decline. It ain't hard to see why. All my work on guns (before i came in the second time and don goofed) is gone, so guns are quite unbalanced now. Theres a hit timer on weapons now of .5 seconds meaning if your ROF is under .5 seconds consecutive shots are impossible to do. Thats all i learned from just reading the forums and not even playing the game. I'm going to play it sometime later. Honestly I don't want to know how far this game has fallen and I don't look forward to playing it again.

So that being said, should we, the graalians community, get into the izone staff team and completely rehaul the game again. I do not care if you even play zone or are staff on another server, should we call emergency and get every hand on deck trying to make zone great again? We can do it, we have the man power, we have the smarts, we have the experience of what not to do and we witnessed other servers mistakes, we have the talent, and we have the passion to make graal a good game. Or do we just not waste our time on it and let the game die. Again.

The problem was lack of coordination on projects and higher ups not having enough quality control or caring enough about development in general. Everything slowly started getting half-assed and if a project didn't hit it's deadline it was completely scrapped.

Don't expect me to go back anytime soon.

I quit Zone. It sucks. Everything new put out is crappy.

I agree with this.

I feel you

I joined the graphics team and left a week later.
No one did anything, everyone was lazy.

An assignment was created to create anything and after a week no one except me had done anything. The team's excuse was that it was a volunteer job.
If you're going to apply for a job, you should at least do it.
The server is fun, but the team is lazy.

I see Tayzrx's motivation is rubbing off on Zone :p

He good but he lazy

tash dont take this the wrong way but we need a new manager
We need new ideas

First of all skyworld looks like a dump , everything all blue it makes me want to puke, we need a colorful overworld that is supposed to represent what the land of graal has become in the future.
We need alien races each with their own home planet that you can visit.These planets have quests and towns of their own with jobs and items you cannot purchase elsewhere

We need mechs, giant robots that can be used in pk, they cannot be used for towering.

We need spaceship which you can control and design, the specs can be upgraded,fleets could be made and guns will keep their stats, expensive guns should have better stats than cheap ones and the job system should be like the one ol west had

Tashkin left a month ago.

Yea but we have people here with the talents and people who actually give a **** about izone. People here are passionate about graal and want to see it succeed. This is a community built game after all, any one can run it.
We have everyone bitching about what needs to be done. But no one to do it, i say we as a community step up to the plate do everything tashkin wouldn't do. You guys know about Project M? The very popular brawl mod? The community stepped up to the plate and finished the 3 new characters, re balanced the game, fixed all the crashes. That was a community effort, no one running it, everyone pitched in and helped. Why cant we do the same? We all pitch in what we can and revamp izone.

Finally someone here who gets it. I had the same issue with guns. I was the only one working and trying to get things to work. No one would want to cooperate with me though.

This is what I want but won it seem like zone has turn into Starbound

Whos manager of izone now?

PerfectDark and Alex Damian

After spending time off the staff team from Zone I can honestly say that I think Zone has always had a horrid staff team, in comparison to other servers, and that is just based off the time I spent working there; from what I have heard the staff team is even worse, almost non existent. To make zone a functioning server I believe, like I always have, the server needs a 100% overhaul. This is something that takes a few years usually, and would need an entirely new staff team, with staff that are actually qualified for the work they are doing (As far as I'm concerned they havent had any remotely qualified staff for over a year now).

not worth the time

Hey I have an idea thatll help,
get GFX that dont rush
have proper prices
stop GIVING players special favors and **** cuz you know them (Trigger who has every hat including one that never existed but he somehow convinced everyone and got it)
make the tiling better, place the buildings better, make new jobs.

PD and Alex is manager? Oh **** this server is going to die quick. PD don't do shiiiiiiiiiit.

Then we should go in and make small changes at a time then. We start off small
Rebalance weapons for PK not spar (like they are now)
Buff jobs back to the way they were
Make the main base be iricia and huge profits for those who particapate in it
Remove unlimited ammo

Once thats done then little by little we as a community work on the tile set, we all contribute something to it then someone put it all together. At the same time we also rehaul classes entirely.
If we all contribute (even a little) we can have izone at a stable state in weeks. In a month classes, in 2 months a tileset and gmap. We can make izone ours

Oh PD, the guy who blacklisted me because I had resigned lol.

good thought all well and stuff

but

please be realistic

I'd help work on a tileset if someone who was organised and nice asked

Dude if we had 20+ people working on one project, stuff would get done quickly. Especially if people from other servers would pitch in a small amount of work. That is 100% do able. Look this game is a coumminity built game, we should all be helping not the current set up that sucks ass of make an offical team to do everything and make that geoup extremley exclusive. 100% open community, anyone can contribute anything, codes, graphics, ganis etc

If big servers (Era/Classic) helped us a bit, Zone would be better.

like ol west yeah

While I was the Gani Admin on Zone, I tried getting ti places but they were too focused on holidays. How about something big, and in the Zone theme...

No, zone never needed any server help (even though snk and Xor did help Zone atleast once [snk often helped, think Xor did only once] and even MD -Delterias manager back then- helped, even though all of his 'help" was stolen codes). All Zone was lacking was organization and a straight set up management, and coders from time to time.

However, I do highly support Graal servers helping eachother, not just caring for their own sakes. A global team made out of X people would be cool, who only stay temp. staff on any server to finish atleast one project per server monthly (considering how huge the project is, and how much time it consumes/people have). Sadly, Graals management isn't that open-minded.
Personally, I once tried to get such a team done back when I had the Esteria server as my personal playground.. I'd be down for it if I wasn't banned for account thief for no apparent reason lol.

Instead of coming up with new ideas its best to just fix the problems zone has right now. The tileset for example is barfable. Seeing everything blue gets me bored quickly. If more colors are added it would be more interesting. The map is another issue. I don't like the fact that I have to wak through one specific road to get somewhere. Everything should be more open so people can use shortcuts or stop by places along the way. There are other problems that need fixing but fixing the ones I've listed can make a difference in this game

Here's a question :
Even though we have people here who can contribute to reviving IZone, how are the efforts gonna be applied into the server itself? I mean, you have to be a staff and the manager's approval for the efforts to be added into the server, or so I think o_o

I would help with this but I don't have Skype or any requirements for zp and graphics well I still don't have Skype I have to agree tho seeing zone get to where classic is would be nice because mangsi invaded classic lol

thats the least problem

inb4 zone adds a half-assed job to fix all this

Zone suks, I think we should focus on other servers.

server should just be taken off the app store and be reborn, have a clean slate, have a vision and stick to it, set a standard

also get rid of all the staff shops, theyre so tacky

This is almost exactly how my story went. I joined a few days before Christmas a couple years ago, and was instantly pelted with projects by Cassie (which was expected -- it was Christmas), and as a result I was working nonstop for those few days. Come Christmas, I realize that absolutely nothing that I had made for Christmas merchandise and the so-called "Christmas Quest" were used. I stayed for New Years but that first incident was enough to convince me to leave.

Exactly. I think all items and hats and such should be kept, as some people worked very hard to get them, but everything else, visually at the least, should be scrapped and redone. This means a desperately needed new tileset, especially new trees to replace those ugly realistic trees, and scrap the useless planet screen that shows up after getting into a spaceship. Oh yeah, new spaceships too. Practically everything needs to be replaced with fresh, visually pleasing graphics. I don't know much about other dev categories, but that's my O on the graphics aspect.

And the staff on yo heads. It's so ghetto.

I was actually considering rejoining to help with a new tileset, which I've been bugging them about for a while now.

I would help but don't have the right programs on my pc. Hmmm but to fix the server it would take a few months and we would probably take stuff form Starbound in the end

Honestly don't know. Thought I can get back into the server but ended up uninstalling today. It's just so boring and nothing to do. Either it's Showdown, trading, basing, or being afk. And with content only being holiday shops, the server is just not thriving in any direction. Hopefully it can get a reboot. It urgently needs one.

You guys should get on your little Graal knees and beg classic for the space nexus tileset and remake every level, then go from there

Just focus on classic which is way better :D

Good idea :)

Oh dear. Don't bring that back up please. Tashkin flipped out over that and... well let's just say I wasted a lot of time for nothing. Thanks Tash :D

Era + Zone + Shangri La = pile of ****

Who knew!?

LOL I WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

Lots of swearing :(

Pm me

Until people with apparent graalstyle talent actually prove they have talent and make a new tileset(space themed/space themed stuff-that majority of these 'progfx people' have never really done) then zone will just be a platform in the air with holiday [email protected], Latte who did f all when was staff and let people like kenovo/lafez etc to do majority of the work(with no reward sometimes), while they 'had other assignments' none that ever been shown or released then happened to quit when majority of working staff left as they wasn't appreciated there nor rewarded for anything.


Most of why zone is never progressed is due to all the highers from managers to department ldrs (managers only having right to do stuff-while department people are incredibly limited in what they can do/have next to no right if they themselves wanted to get the ball rolling on creating something more.) This is why most updates are just holiday updates.. I mean they even put thread for zonecoin shop update(what to put in) a year ago and still it hasnt got one.

And for the graal community who always go on about old servers etc and how they could help it with whatever skills they have, why don't they help another iserver out like zone? I mean its not like classic couldn't of just gave part of that nexus?space tileset to help another server out, but nah let create few levels that will never be seen again.

While I partly agree with this, we also have to recognize that the artist(s) might not want their work being used somewhere else without any compensation.

What happened to that racing mini game thing that Tashkin said he was working on?

Dead in the dust along with a **** ton of other dank projects

MrSimons and latte where the best GFX Heads Zone will probably ever see. The GFX team was never more productive than when the time MrSimons was in charge. As for kenovo, that was entirely his choice. Also everyone who did work got iOS rewards like kenovo (if they wanted it).

The GFX Head doesn't decide on future updates. All they do is coordinate their team. There's really nothing you can blame MrSimons and latte for. There is one time where latte got pretty inactive and had put me in charge to coordinate the team, (it wasn't for long since I had quit afterwards.) but after she came to a point where she didn't feel productive enough is when I assume she quit. Same with MrSimons.

Another problem is nobody wanting to work as GFX for Zone.

Ok guys heres what we should do.
We should have a very very very small staff, they are incharge of the following
Graphics/ganis
Levels, shops, quests etc
Npc codes
Items
Weaponry.
Then what we do is we have an open community project. They put in graphics, code, levels, weapons etc into this dropbox
Staff then test it, edit it and copypaste the final code into the game.

We cannot remove this game from the appstore. We should be trying to make this game what stefan visioned it to be. A game where he provides the tools, and we the people create to the game, and not just a specific group of people like it is currently, but any one, they dont even have to play the game.