Is it legal ppl can sell their accounts/trade them?
 

so ive been inactive lately, due to final exams whenever i log on i get pms about will you sell your acc for 100-500$? If yes, he keeps talking about paypal, bank exchange n more, is this legal

It's against the rules to share accounts let alone sell them.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30867
and we always go back to this.

He actually raged at me when i said my gralats are worth 549$ [ without the acc]

Most of the pms are from french ppl

Trust me when I say this: No account is worth that much no matter how many gralat packs you buy.

Even if Jesus farted on it, it wouldn't be worth that much so its quite possible the guy tryna steal your account.

That said, yes it is illegal to sell accounts.

Literally everything on his account is worth that much, not even ****ting you.

acct trading is illegal bc of many reasons.

• u can sell ur acct, but when you scam or get scammed. the game isn't responsible of your action and graal don't want to deal with it.
• it's a easy way to obtain stats and items(30 pgs of hats etc). they don't want that to happen cus graal want all ur money.
• if one succeed purchasing acct, the rest will try to do the same. why? it's ez to get good stats.

i would take a screenshot of their profile and the message and submit a ticket to the toonslab. they are quick when it comes to illegal trades.

his acct is worth it. defo 100-300 buck range considering his good stat + gralats, all the old items that he has.

aside of me wanna shout out 'GET DA MONEY AND GET DA F OUT!1'

You're ******ed if you think a graal account is worth that much

it's different from personal views, but consider this. would u spend $1000+ & over 3k hr+ to get to his level or would u buy it for $100 and get the same thing, only difference is it's illegal + isn't achieve by you. everything else stays the same.

+ if u think i am ******ed, u should look at some acct trading websites. where people buy accts for $500+. graal is just not exposed to the dark side.

$100 is a huge freaking difference from 500, plus I know what happens with account trading on other games. Those games actually have content to offer that is competitive other than the small scaled things classic has

Only account I could ever see being worth more than $100 is maeby her account cus she owns chain of memories

ok my bad, there's good $100 accts too, $500+ r godlike accts.
if they have contents, people would play it, not buy it. it's all about bragging and bs. you don't know a crap cus spanish era club is actually sorta doing this.

maeby accts isnt worth anything, she was just tower leader(known to too many ppl) + bad rep(at least what i heard from ppl) + what does she even have other than CoM and some old items?

lol so true man x-x

I know a player who paid $100 for an account (had crappy stats) but had old hats.

I had multiple offers like this aswell, but after I got further into
it I was banned so I'm assuming it's really not allowed.

I dont get it, heres my stats

Can any admin read our conversation and banned him? Is that possible ?
And the reason should be " international scamming "
*cough cough*

Yeah!

I would never actually be able to sell my account because to me the account is worth more than it's worth to other people.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...7&d=1450250081 holly sh*t what do you do with your life

2-3 years ago someone wanted to buy my account for 1000$ (including forum accounts) because he wanted to be me lol

Guy/girl? I know a girl who did this too(her actual account was even better than the one she bought, she just wanted a stupid hat), can't possibly see why, buying accounts is no fun on most games and a waste of money especially on Graal because everybody will know that person bought it and nobody really cares about stats as much as people think so buying old accounts to impress people is a terrible idea.

It's a violation of the game rules to buy, sell, or trade your account if you see somebody trying to do either of these report them.

well it's difficult to middleman these kind of deals cause the account owner has to give their e-mail details associated with the account as well (to grant entire access to the buyer and no revokes) so ya, I wouldn't recommend making transactions with complete strangers..

GRAAL IS LIFE OKAY

only account worth buying would be vlad (US)

First off, this entire game is illegal yet it's making millions, so chill. That being said, selling your account is neither dark nor illegal; I am unsure what this drama is about. If you can score a top-notch account for a few hundreds bucks and it seems worth it, do it.

If you want to "follow the rules", the only license clause that is questionable but also debatable is this: You may not use, copy, modify, sublicense, rent, sell, assign or transfer the license granted pursuant to this Agreement except as expressly provided in this Agreement.

But there are other portions of the license that explicitly indicate that account sharing or transfer is legal: User Information. Former Users. Users whose accounts have been terminated by any Graal Online administrator or LINUX Cyberjoueurs himself may not access the Graal Online system in any manner or for any reason without the express written permission of Cyberjoueur. Active Users may not knowingly allow former Users who have been terminated to use the active Users' accounts.

prob. he has heck ton of event hats, npc, mounts, a lot of 1k tower hats, won many gsts, has over 50k spar wins, very close to 100k pk. has a bad relationship with comyt and kouji. hes been inactive. hell yeah boi.

i know a kid who bought a good spar acct for 70bucks+, something happened between them, then the acct got disabled permanently.

I'm aware of what Collin said; it doesn't matter, however. We are discussing justice. This is the same reason why Graal has hundreds of powerful enemies; they've been ripped off, beat up, banned, abused, and robbed because of "unspoken rules to which they will be held accountable with an iron fist".

In the legal world, you cannot just have some personalities walking around saying, "I make the rules! What I say goes!" Then you end up in the Michael Jackson version of The Whiz where everyone is enslaved like abused children to the whims of a queen of hearts.

LEEEEGALLY speaking, the license agreement is what holds up in court, which is what his question is. I just reviewed both the rules of conduct & license agreement on the accounts, which in the real world is all that matters—as per his question. If someone wants to do such things they ought to not ask permission, and just do it.

If he wants to follow Collin's wishes or these unagreed rules, that is his choice and they've been listed in this thread and don't need re-emphasized in contrast to my comment which was addressing the end-user Terms & Agreements (which is what the thread title was technically referring to when it said legal).

Sounds like a huge waste of money.
Ok you get an account with really high ratios, but if you can't keep that ratio up, in the end it becomes the same as any other account.

When those personalities are administrators for GraalOnline then yes, what they say goes.

These user-agreements and conducts have not been updated since 2003 and when discussing trading/selling items it talks about doing so for other items/currency found in the game and were written for PC servers that actually have a trading system implemented.

The bolded part about not letting a terminated user on your account is there because if somebody has their account terminated then they should not be accessing the game which they might try and do so by using a friends account in which case that is a violation of the rules because said friend is helping a terminated user access something they shouldn't be, it does not state that sharing accounts or selling them is legal in anyway.

It has been said many times and multiple people have already been warned/banned for trying to sell accounts or trade accounts a main factor most likely being the age group of this game makes people very vulnerable to being scammed, robbed, and taken advantage of.

Administration has all right to deny the action of selling/trading accounts and if they so choose to say it is against the rules to do then you must abide by their word.

I have a slight idea who that might be, lol


Also, stay far, far away from anything like this.

uhh
you'll get banned if you're caught
if you find yourself in a courtroom w unix about this tho then hit him up^

Yeah it's a female. She still uses her old account as well, don't see what's the necessity of buying an account for cosmetic purposes.


Overall, I think it's blatantly pointless to buy or sell accounts because it can lead to consequences such scamming, harassment, account reset, or banned from a range of 2K-7K hours.

no.

It's not legal, but I'm willing to sell my account under the table for $xxxx

I like when nooblings try to trade accounts with an almost brand new account, def cringe worthy

I'm sorry for your loss of your hopes and dreams

I think Colin and you are talking about the same person.

I see 4 digits in there, awww man. :( how will I ever be pr0.by playing the game maybe

and the first digit isn't 1 buddy. :(

If he's referring to the player that starts with an "H" then yes lol

Yeah :l she loves the clown hats

O no it's hitler

I'll be pilot after 7-8 months:/

I believe isn't illegal, but because the user has to also sell the E-mail to the account makes it much more risky to buy the account in the first place. I tried buying an account at one point in my early days in Classic. We were almost able to get the transaction done, but he/she got themselves banned. Once the admins found out I was trying to buy the account they banned us both for about 2K hours even if I didn't do anything, but just being associated in the transaction.

Trading/buying is not illegal, but Admins try to keep people from exploiting real CASH from "good" graalians.

Oh my ego :(

RIP GOAT's ego. Here lies GOAT and his theory about his account being the Mona Lisa account.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/atta...1&d=1450325939

What about mine? :sarcastic:

o no I can't believe I forgot about GOAT. It's okay buddy, your acct may not be the Mona Lisa account, but it's not far from it :P

5$ take it or leave it

I've got a Walmart coupon and 7 cents. Play ball with me Bryan, let's make a deal

You two must fight to the death!

i find it sad that people are willing to spend that much money on a game