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Aguzo 01-06-2016 08:13 AM

Seasonal Prizes
 
"At the end of each season we have rewards and trophies in place for the top 3. More information on this will come closer to the end of the season!"

So, is it only the top 3 that get rewards and trophies?

or

Top 20, at least top 10 get rewards too, just not trophies?

If only top 3 get rewards, and top 10/20/50 don't get anything, then it's pretty lame.

Hopefully it's the following: (example)

1. Golden trophy + some sort of payout/hat (50k/chooses hat first) + top 50 hat
2. silver 20k, 2nd hat + hat for being in top 50
3. bronze 10k, 3rd hat + top 50 hat

Everyone below gets 5k, and a hat for being top 50 (example)

I strongly recommend it to have prizes for everyone in top 50, then you will see so much more activity in all leaderboards.

Red 01-06-2016 08:29 AM

Quote:

Posted by Aguzo (Post 656957)
"At the end of each season we have rewards and trophies in place for the top 3. More information on this will come closer to the end of the season!"

So, is it only the top 3 that get rewards and trophies?

or

Top 20, at least top 10 get rewards too, just not trophies?

If only top 3 get rewards, and top 10/20/50 don't get anything, then it's pretty lame.

Hopefully it's the following: (example)

1. Golden trophy + some sort of payout/hat (50k/chooses hat first) + top 50 hat
2. silver 20k, 2nd hat + hat for being in top 50
3. bronze 10k, 3rd hat + top 50 hat

Everyone below gets 5k, and a hat for being top 50 (example)

I strongly recommend it to have prizes for everyone in top 50, then you will see so much more activity in all leaderboards.

Gotta agree on the top 50 prize

Pharaoh 01-06-2016 08:43 AM

Quote:

Posted by Aguzo (Post 656957)
Hopefully it's the following: (example)

1. Golden trophy + some sort of payout/hat (50k/chooses hat first) + top 50 hat
2. silver 20k, 2nd hat + hat for being in top 50
3. bronze 10k, 3rd hat + top 50 hat

Everyone below gets 5k, and a hat for being top 50 (example)

I strongly recommend it to have prizes for everyone in top 50, then you will see so much more activity in all leaderboards.

Top 10 would already be pushing it. Moreover, I don't see gralat rewards being a thing. If anything it would encourage boosting which is the wrong kind of "activity".

David M. 01-06-2016 08:48 AM

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Posted by Pharaoh (Post 656963)
Top 10 would already be pushing it. Moreover, I don't see gralat rewards being a thing. If anything it would encourage boosting which is the wrong kind of "activity".

How? farming goes way faster than sparring for your gralats so that's bs + boosting won't give you any spar points. Besides spar rooms are so packed now you can't even boost.

Pharaoh 01-06-2016 10:29 AM

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Posted by David M. (Post 656964)
How? farming goes way faster than sparring for your gralats so that's bs + boosting won't give you any spar points. Besides spar rooms are so packed now you can't even boost.

Mainly talking about pk boosting, which is an issue. Furthermore, that doesn't change the fact that gralat prizes are not a very good idea. I'd rather see some kind of unique gani like with gst as a prize than just handing someone gralats. Top 3 in pk for example getting sword spin gani would be cool.

Saber Alumba 01-06-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Posted by Pharaoh (Post 656975)
Mainly talking about pk boosting, which is an issue. Furthermore, that doesn't change the fact that gralat prizes are not a very good idea. I'd rather see some kind of unique gani like with gst as a prize than just handing someone gralats. Top 3 in pk for example getting sword spin gani would be cool.

Or gives us what we crave , hats , hats and some more hats !! Jk

In all seriousness I have a few questions my self ,
First of all as top 3 from category will be getting prizes , are they going to all be the same or different for each category ?
Also if it is to be a gani prize dear lord make new ones every season? Because if it's going to be the same thing every season then competing would become rather boring

G Fatal 01-06-2016 02:30 PM

Has the rewards been set for certain stuff? haven't seen exactly what they will get just that they will be rewarded top3, personally I think thats better than rewarding everyone.
although something like this wouldnt be too bad:
1st) 20k +goldthrophy +winnerhat(chosen/or custom)
2nd) 15k+silverthrophy(staff picked/madehat)
3rd)10k+bronze throphy


4th-10th) 2k
11th-30th) 1k
31st-50th)500gralats


I say the lower cash amounts simply because players could be like 5th in PK's then go on to sparring etc to get more rewards there also.

Grandpa 01-06-2016 02:41 PM

Quote:

Posted by G Fatal (Post 657013)
Has the rewards been set for certain stuff? haven't seen exactly what they will get just that they will be rewarded top3, personally I think thats better than rewarding everyone.
although something like this wouldnt be too bad:
1st) 20k +goldthrophy +winnerhat(chosen/or custom)
2nd) 15k+silverthrophy(staff picked/madehat)
3rd)10k+bronze throphy


4th-10th) 2k
11th-30th) 1k
31st-50th)500gralats


I say the lower cash amounts simply because players could be like 5th in PK's then go on to sparring etc to get more rewards there also.

they're not doing gralat rewards you ****

4-Lom 01-06-2016 03:58 PM

Horse races... 100 gralats woo big money!

Good luck :3

G Fatal 01-06-2016 04:05 PM

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Posted by Grandpa (Post 657016)
they're not doing gralat rewards you ****

where did they state that? dickhead mindthenone ****

Nanner 01-06-2016 04:36 PM

Even top 5 for a reward is pushing it IMO. Maybe they will make some special belt for the categories that players can have for the season. But I don't think they would make hats as that would be like 6 different hats every season and I just don't see classic doing that as they already have to worry about making diff gst hats every season :p

Asteria 01-06-2016 04:39 PM

what will the rewards be

Albie 01-06-2016 04:41 PM

Boosting is pretty hard with the pc rooms being gone and all.
The way to stop it would be remove the queue counter.

Aguzo 01-06-2016 06:47 PM

Never said the prize was gralats, it was an (example)

Plus, it should be top 50 receives at least something, because there will be people who will discourage anyone from even participating, due to the fact that they will be so far ahead.

Grandpa 01-06-2016 07:34 PM

top pkers get a pat on the head and a message from admins telling them to go outside

Ivy 01-06-2016 11:05 PM

Would love to see some ganis and hats

Comyt 01-06-2016 11:17 PM

imo there should be absolutely zero prizes and seeing your name on top of the leaderboard is enough, why do you have to be bribed with ugly hats to play the game?

Vic 01-06-2016 11:25 PM

Quote:

Posted by Comyt (Post 657216)
imo there should be absolutely zero prizes and seeing your name on top of the leaderboard is enough, why do you have to be bribed with ugly hats to play the game?

People would do it with or without the prizes. I would at least.

Zetectic 01-06-2016 11:29 PM

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Posted by Vic (Post 657221)
People would do it with or without the prizes. I would at least.

^^^^ this lol
the trophies are enough or small gralats in addition.

i was going to support, then i read what pharaoh wrote. it's true, if there's good prizes people are going to find a way to boost or cheat.

Areo 01-06-2016 11:40 PM

They'll be on top of the board and that entails being basically stalked as people try to find where you pk/bk. If they can't find you at a tower or at a mob you'll be reported. They would not be able to cheat either way, not for the top.

And the only real cheating you could do is boosting. Unless there is a fundamental flaw with the leaderboards code(which there is no proof of as of now.) or with the pk or bk system(which there is also no proof of as of now.) making it impossible to do any kind of cheating outside of boosting, which you'll be caught for if you are attempting to get into the top 3.

Don't use that as an excuse to say "just give that gralats and a trophy" because either A: you don't have the time to compete. Or B: you don't enjoy it enough to compete. Im not saying that towards anyone in particular, more just as a blanket statement. I won't be competing either, I don't have the time.

Feel free to give me reasons on why it isn't that way, I don't mind being wrong.

(Also if the staff can't keep up with the demand for hats or whatever season prize they are planning, then i could understand.)

Edit: I also understand the argument of "people shouldn't need a reward" which comyt posted above, but now that they have advertised there being a prize they can't do that now.

Zetectic 01-06-2016 11:49 PM

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Posted by Areo (Post 657227)
And the only real cheating you could do is boosting.

u could share ur acct or for bk people could bot (someone told me he could)

Areo 01-06-2016 11:59 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 657231)
u could share ur acct or for bk people could bot (at least someone told me they could)

We can tell if you share your account, and if your in the top three by a wide margin then they could check to make sure you aren't doing that. Besides, people were already doing that without a prize. But if they did it convincing enough that they were far enough ahead that they wouldn't worry about losing and were close enough that they were not accused of it, then maybe they could pull it off.

Bking with a bot could work, but the server does have bot detection. Or if you were referring to a macro, then someone could easily come and find you and push you out of the way and/or kill you, even in the pyrat caves you can get killed. I don't know if macro use is illegal anyway.

Zetectic 01-07-2016 12:16 AM

Quote:

Posted by Areo (Post 657237)
We can tell if you share your account, and if your in the top three by a wide margin then they could check to make sure you aren't doing that. Besides, people were already doing that without a prize. But if they did it convincing enough that they were far enough ahead that they wouldn't worry about losing and were close enough that they were not accused of it, then maybe they could pull it off.

Bking with a bot could work, but the server does have bot detection. Or if you were referring to a macro, then someone could easily come and find you and push you out of the way and/or kill you, even in the pyrat caves you can get killed. I don't know if macro use is illegal anyway.

are u an admin? if not ur first argument is invalid.
nobody can tell if u share ur acct or not. we can't even tell if sheikha shares her acct like people says and (high management)admins knows keeps their boundaries clear, they don't invade our privacy or expose them at all. i also heard average admins don't even gain any access to our ip or email addresses or anything important other than our graal ids.

bk botting, idk about this in any detail, but the way he described it, it wasn't a macro. i forgot who he was though.

GOAT 01-07-2016 12:44 AM

I want to start by saying that I agree with Comet that players shouldn't be awarded for playing, but I don't have a problem with it especially if it promotes activity all around.


Award Suggestion: Trophy furniture
1st, 2nd, and 3rd place trophies that work as furniture.


Furniture Suggestion: Trophy showcase
If the above happens then a nice trophy case cabinet could come in handy.

Red 01-07-2016 01:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by Zetectic (Post 657246)
are u an admin? if not ur first argument is invalid.
nobody can tell if u share ur acct or not. we can't even tell if sheikha shares her acct like people says and (high management)admins knows keeps their boundaries clear, they don't invade our privacy or expose them at all. i also heard average admins don't even gain any access to our ip or email addresses or anything important other than our graal ids.

bk botting, idk about this in any detail, but the way he described it, it wasn't a macro. i forgot who he was though.

explain how they detect shared accounts and ban them.

Aguzo 01-07-2016 01:33 AM

Quote:

Posted by GOAT (Post 657250)
Award Suggestion: Trophy furniture
1st, 2nd, and 3rd place trophies that work as furniture.


Furniture Suggestion: Trophy showcase
If the above happens then a nice trophy case cabinet could come in handy.

Nice ideas,

and yes, awards for people will increase the activity for each category. It would give more reason to participate in those subjects.

It gets repetitive when you don't get some sort of compensation for achieving top X.

Some people might be saying, "No point in awards", because they didn't get anything, while they did it. That's their problem, not the newer players'. It gives them an incentive to play, as it does for all the games that reward their players for completing certain actions/being ahead of the competition.

Rufus 01-07-2016 01:58 AM

I started replying to this thread and then realized that I was arguing with my own beliefs. To cut it short, it has been discussed that the top 50 players of the season will be receiving something and this will happen in tiers. The top 3 players of the season will be receiving something better. I don't think we need suggestions on what prizes are going to be given out. For example, we already have trophy items made by Dusty and the conversion of the statues into furniture is scripted.

Just wait for the later announcement.

Red 01-07-2016 02:03 AM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 657274)
I started replying to this thread and then realized that I was arguing with my own beliefs. To cut it short, it has been discussed that the top 50 players of the season will be receiving something and this will happen in tiers. The top 3 players of the season will be receiving something better. I don't think we need suggestions on what prizes are going to be given out. For example, we already have trophy items made by Dusty and the conversion of the statues into furniture is scripted.

Just wait for the later announcement.

sounds good to me

Ivy 01-07-2016 02:31 AM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 657274)
I started replying to this thread and then realized that I was arguing with my own beliefs. To cut it short, it has been discussed that the top 50 players of the season will be receiving something and this will happen in tiers. The top 3 players of the season will be receiving something better. I don't think we need suggestions on what prizes are going to be given out. For example, we already have trophy items made by Dusty and the conversion of the statues into furniture is scripted.

Just wait for the later announcement.

Excited to see how this turns out :D

Thallen 01-07-2016 02:54 AM

Quote:

Posted by Vic (Post 657221)
People would do it with or without the prizes. I would at least.

well yeah, I mean people have done it for over 5 years now with no prize being offered, people would even cheat or be selective to get #1 without any reward

twilit 01-07-2016 03:57 AM

Why can these trophies be turned into furniture, when GST belts and holiday event trophies are not permanent?

Rufus 01-07-2016 03:58 AM

Quote:

Posted by twilit (Post 657303)
Why can these trophies be turned into furniture, when GST belts and holiday event trophies are not permanent?

Because this is moving forward.

Areo 01-07-2016 04:11 AM

Quote:

Posted by Zetectic (Post 657246)
are u an admin? if not ur first argument is invalid.
nobody can tell if u share ur acct or not. we can't even tell if sheikha shares her acct like people says and (high management)admins knows keeps their boundaries clear, they don't invade our privacy or expose them at all. i also heard average admins don't even gain any access to our ip or email addresses or anything important other than our graal ids.

bk botting, idk about this in any detail, but the way he described it, it wasn't a macro. i forgot who he was though.

Though I do remember Hearing in a thread that they have the ability to check, I cannot prove it. So I won't argue that point farther without getting confirmation that they can do that, and would in that kind of scenario.

In response to your bot statement, I can't really argue with or against it with the amount of detail you gave.

Still doesn't change my feelings that now that they have stated that a prize will be given that it shouldn't be just gralats and trophy that your player holds. Though Rufus just confirmed above that they will be able to be turned into furniture, so that's good in my book.

Though in the end my feelings on this carry no more weight then any other average players do.

Ruppy 01-07-2016 04:32 AM

I have a great idea! Why don't we create a tournament with the best GS guilds and have them GS to get a belt and hat and 1st-3rd get hats....

lil l8....

Zetectic 01-07-2016 05:31 AM

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Posted by OG (Post 657258)
explain how they detect shared accounts and ban them.

That's when they receive reports and someone higher up checks it.
I could be wrong about normal admins ability stuff, the reason behind it probably have to do with few ex admin took thing personally and abused their power? Dunno

I mean even squiggles was a gp at one point..

By the way @rufus trophy-furniture thing. That's actually cool. -thumbs up-

Zetectic 03-17-2016 12:21 AM

now that this is dead close. i and sarah are curious to see what the prizes are.

i think its gonna be
1st 20k gralat, trophy
2nd 10k gralat, trophy
3rd 5k gralat, trophy

Aguzo 03-17-2016 02:06 AM

Quote:

Posted by Zetectic (Post 685164)
now that this is dead close. i and sarah are curious to see what the prizes are.

i think its gonna be
1st 20k gralat, trophy
2nd 10k gralat, trophy
3rd 5k gralat, trophy

I think it's some sort of item for top 3 + trophy, and top 50 get at least something, not sure.

Areo 03-17-2016 07:40 AM

Excited to see, can't wait. Surprised myself that I actually made it into the top 50, let alone into the top 25 for total pks. Hope the prize is something cool, but even if I just get gralats it won't really change much, I don't pk to be on the leaderboard. But it could be a nice added bonus.

Only 3 days till it ends, or four depending if it resets at the start of the day, or at the end.

alexx 03-17-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Posted by Ruppy (Post 657310)
I have a great idea! Why don't we create a tournament with the best GS guilds and have them GS to get a belt and hat and 1st-3rd get hats....

lil l8....

Maybe because we already have a "tournament for the best GS guilds" called GST lol

4-Lom 03-17-2016 01:42 PM

vip passes :3

qes 03-17-2016 01:55 PM

the members in the #1 tower guild at the end of the season should all be made admins, have invincibility, and should have their own fort in honor of their skill.

Areo 03-17-2016 07:20 PM

Quote:

Posted by qes (Post 685455)
the members in the #1 tower guild at the end of the season should all be made admins, have invincibility, and should have their own fort in honor of their skill.

Don't forget the 999 damage swords and infinite arrows.

Areo 03-19-2016 06:12 PM

So, the season leaderboards aren't appearing right now. Assuming that's to hand out prizes.

I hope that you'll post where everyone placed in the end, would like to know where I finished

fp4 03-19-2016 07:51 PM

Working on fixing it, wasn't supposed to reset today.

Edit: DB Restored, merging the data that was collected for the last twelve hours after the accidental reset.

Edit2: Finished merging leaderboard data.

Areo 03-19-2016 08:47 PM

Not to hark on you, but now the daily is displaying the wrong values(at least for me)

fp4 03-19-2016 08:52 PM

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Posted by Areo (Post 686127)
Not to hark on you, but now the daily is displaying the wrong values(at least for me)

Only the season scores were adjusted, the daily board is just going to be broken today sorry.

Areo 03-19-2016 08:53 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 686128)
Only the season scores were adjusted, the daily board is just going to be broken today sorry.

It's fine, only 1 day anyway

G Fatal 03-20-2016 12:08 AM

fail, where the alltime ldrbds at.

Thallen 03-20-2016 12:27 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 686183)
fail, where the alltime ldrbds at.

http://puu.sh/nMGaK/cd8a04f273.png

PigParty 03-20-2016 12:34 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 686189)

in his defense, he has like 3 accounts.


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