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Incognito 02-28-2016 06:32 AM

5 Guilds Only Update
 
I have like 102 guilds I'm in and I have no idea which ones I want to leave just so I can tower for fun or practice guildspar

Thallen 02-28-2016 06:33 AM

good

HmongtheSecond 02-28-2016 06:35 AM

How am I suppose to lead Merako to 1k now!!!!1

fp4 02-28-2016 06:37 AM

u not loyal

0.5 02-28-2016 06:39 AM

[QUOTE=fp4;678901]u not loyal[/QUOTE
:rolleyes:

Adam Silver 02-28-2016 06:41 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678901)
u not loyal

I am loyal to my farm. That count?

Aguzo 02-28-2016 06:44 AM

So how does this work?
I don't have to leave my current one's, but I won't be able to join any other guilds right?

What will this do exactly? What was this aimed for?

Will you guys add a dedicated guild house?
I am crossing my fingers, hoping that this will be further updated by the start of spring :)

Darkk 02-28-2016 06:44 AM

Fp4 can we increase the maximum amount of members to like 40 per guild? Also can we have the ability to temporarily join a guild for towering or guild sparring?

0.5 02-28-2016 06:45 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 678904)
So how does this work?
I don't have to leave my current one's, but I won't be able to join any other guilds right?

What will this do exactly? What was this aimed for?


My only guess is doing so many 1ks but this is stupid... It dosnt provent anything


Like is this a real try .... Recruiting is gonna be hard as hec now they just ruining towering more

Aguzo 02-28-2016 06:52 AM

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Posted by 0.5 (Post 678908)
My only guess is doing so many 1ks but this is stupid... It dosnt provent anything


Like is this a real try .... Recruiting is gonna be hard as hec now they just ruining towering more

They should really just let guilds get a hat every 1k, and every 10k give them a mount. 20k = 2p mount, guilds would totally do that imo.

I don't think recruiting will be hard.

fp4 02-28-2016 06:52 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 678904)
I don't have to leave my current one's, but I won't be able to join any other guilds right?

Correct.

Thallen 02-28-2016 06:56 AM

I highly doubt anyone wears and makes healthy use of more than even 3 guild tags on a daily basis
I'm in 80ish guilds right now and if I had to I could easily leave every one of them except Enguard and Alumni, and even with Enguard I'm just clinging to something useless and nostalgic

0.5 02-28-2016 06:56 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 678910)
They should really just let guilds get a hat every 1k, and every 10k give them a mount. 20k = 2p mount, guilds would totally do that imo.

I don't think recruiting will be hard.

I think it will for now at least atleast for towering people


Towering people usuallt have a pk guild , social guilds , a couple maybe of each then a main guild

And I know many towering people with 80 + guilds

But noob recruiting will be on point

fp4 02-28-2016 07:05 AM

across the current playercount the average amount of guilds people are in currently is 4.

alexx 02-28-2016 07:06 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 678906)
Fp4 can we increase the maximum amount of members to like 40 per guild? Also can we have the ability to temporarily join a guild for towering or guild sparring?

This is also what I was thinking. I think raising the limit to 30-35 would compensate for 5 guilds per person because the only reason why I can think this was implemented was to stop people from boosting GS points.

Areo 02-28-2016 07:06 AM

Im in like 15 guilds, this will be interesting. Friends guilds are gunna disappear for those tower orientated folk

0.5 02-28-2016 07:08 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 678912)
I highly doubt anyone wears and makes healthy use of more than even 3 guild tags on a daily basis
I'm in 80ish guilds right now and if I had to I could easily leave every one of them except Enguard and Alumni, and even with Enguard I'm just clinging to something useless and nostalgic


I think 5 though seriously is pretty low..... I think they should raise it atleast

I know leaders of guilds usally have a couple sub guilds and give themselves power instead of making a new account or asking a friend

Now it gonna be harder to just choose 5 for those leaders to be honest

You have to admit 5 is pretty low..

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678915)
across the current playercount the average amount of guilds people are in currently is 4.


Yeah and how many tower out of those how many are social how many are spars ?

I think it should be raised atleast a bit more..

And I think for older players its not fair..

Espically a friend I know who been playing since 2011 and did a lot of towering guilds over 5 ..

So there old guilds they cant be in it ? All the 1ks people do there gonna leave? All the old guilds they have they have to leave ..

Sure not all they use sure some can leave but i think this is a bit unfair

(NEXT UP)

Buy GUILD SLOTS to be in more guilds is this a money grabber now..

Thallen 02-28-2016 07:14 AM

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Posted by 0.5 (Post 678918)
I know leaders of guilds usally have a couple sub guilds and give themselves power instead of making a new account or asking a friend

That's another problem to me, the entire state of tower recruiting: using 5 allied guilds as nothing more than a way to extend your guild roster by 125. Hopefully that gets looked at and the appropriate changes are made to eliminate this from even needing to be a thing.
Everyone will have to adapt to it, so it's obviously going to be applied equally and fairly. It doesn't advantage or disadvantage anyone over another. I don't see the issue.

Something I posted a pretty long time ago:
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Posted by Thallen (Post 659346)
Guilds have practically no value and they're basically just a tag being used a vessel to get things in the easiest way possible. That's what encourages recycling tower guilds, it's what encourages temporary recruits to GS tags to improve GST seeding, etc. Staff know that though and I'm sure it's on their checklist for the future.

Consider that maybe this change may be the first of many that go towards changing/improving the guild system so that they're no longer useless and disposable tags.

Areo 02-28-2016 07:14 AM

Well, being in someone's friend guild is really going to matter now.

0.5 02-28-2016 07:16 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 678920)
That's another problem to me, the entire state of tower recruiting: using 5 allied guilds as nothing more than a way to extend your guild roster by 125. Hopefully that gets looked at and the appropriate changes are made to eliminate this from even needing to be a thing.
Everyone will have to adapt to it, so it's obviously going to be applied equally and fairly. It doesn't advantage or disadvantage anyone over another. I don't see the issue.

Something I posted a pretty long time ago:


Consider that maybe this change may be the first of many that go towards changing/improving the guild system so that they're no longer useless and disposable tags.

I guess it has its pros and cons atleast they are trying / are wanting to improve

fp4 02-28-2016 07:23 AM

This is a necessary step in the right direction of making #guildlivesmatter.

The fact that some people are actually in 100+ guilds is unbelievable to me. With a limit on guilds we can focus on improving the core guild experience for everyone and make them much more meaningful than they currently are.

Areo 02-28-2016 07:23 AM

Make it more obvious that your over the limit, I saw the 16/5 in the top corner, but maybe make it in a red font or something that'll let people know?(unless you get a message that you can't be recruit when a invitation is sent).

Also, this is probably big enough that it should get put in the News.

what if I try and create a guild when im at 5 guilds already? Will I be rejected from doing so?


Just some thoughts/questions.

fp4 02-28-2016 07:26 AM

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Posted by Areo (Post 678926)
what if I try and create a guild when im at 5 guilds already? Will I be rejected from doing so?

Yes it will say you're already in too many guilds.

Areo 02-28-2016 07:39 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678927)
Yes it will say you're already in too many guilds.

Intuative, makes sense.

Assuming this is more geared toward towering, though this'll still impact sparers. Maybe they'll use the same tag for guild spar tournaments over time.

Hopefully this update is just the beginning of the edits/additions to guilds. Hoping for more guild activities and things along those lines, not gunna hold my breath on that for awhile though.

Darkk 02-28-2016 07:39 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678927)
Yes it will say you're already in too many guilds.

Allow 5 guilds and then one temporary tag or 5 guilds NOT including the guild you own (so 6.)

New guild system and individual player achievements please

fp4 02-28-2016 07:44 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 678933)
Allow 5 guilds and then one temporary tag or 5 guilds NOT including the guild you own (so 6.)

New guild system and individual player achievements please

Have you considered being in just 4 guilds and 1 temporary one.

Bryan* 02-28-2016 09:36 AM

So this feature forces players to choose 4 guilds they like to stay in and force them to leave other specific ones. What an amazing restriction.

0.5 02-28-2016 09:45 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 678925)

The fact that some people are actually in 100+ guilds is unbelievable to me. .


How is it unbeilveable if you are playing for a long time ?

Lets think about it

2011 - let say you did 10 1ks thru those years as my friend have

Then theres Sub tags

Pk tags

Social tags

Friends tags

But don't get me wrong I apperiacate you guys trying / want to improve

Striken 02-28-2016 09:46 AM

Welp there goes almost every guild I have.

bu7maid 02-28-2016 10:23 AM

Whoever suggested this idea is stupid.

Admiral 02-28-2016 10:47 AM

i like it, solves some of the problems now that I see people moaning about day after day on this forum, and fp4 said it helps to bring in a better guild system

UU 02-28-2016 10:50 AM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 678968)
i like it, solves some of the problems now that I see people moaning about day after day on this forum, and fp4 said it helps to bring in a better guild system

I would have liked 10.
5 is so tiny.
Its basically one sub for towering, one spot for towering main tag, one spot for your own guild.
That leaves only 2 tags for friends guilds or something like that
I had a total of 13 tags.
Only 4 from 2012-now.
I had 8 old tags (the other was my own) because they all were important to my time in graal at various points
I had to leave every single one of those old tags bar 1.

The group it effects most is regular towerers.

Red 02-28-2016 10:57 AM

From 48 tags to 5
1) Rampage (been here since 2013 just finishing 1k off now)
2) Apostles (GST)
3) Shaman (Family guild)
4) Towers inc (waiting on 1k hat)
5) open spot for whatever I
Need to do
At least expand guild slots fp4 this is a great update it
Forces crappy guild cycling scum like beg for mercy to actually stay loyal rather then off tag and own like 8 sub tags all randomly connected
Also stops spam recruit guild sparring thanks for the fix on that Thallen =D

40 slots, co leader system, new rank system and a proper GUILD house would be great
I'd also like to suggest adding a Tab called guild achievements. For example I click on alumni it shows their tournaments they've won and all there hats.

Zetectic 02-28-2016 11:01 AM

? U asked for it. Now u dont want it?

Vic 02-28-2016 11:04 AM

I love this update, it'll be interesting to see which guilds I'll be leaving. It's also hilarious to read everyone's raging status about it. You know what would be evil?
Spoiler
Guild Tag Pack- $0.99 for 5 tags

1) Empire (my guild)
2) Thallen (idk why I'm in it but I had an extra spot so w/e)
3) ipku (old pk guild with good memories)
4) D19 (family)
5) open for a guild tag, or something

G Fatal 02-28-2016 11:18 AM

they should scrap the 1k hats now considering them guilds have no idea where they are in the alltime ldrbd.. bwt what was the seasonal prizes? or they not given yet?

Zetectic 02-28-2016 11:25 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 678979)
they should scrap the 1k hats now considering them guilds have no idea where they are in the alltime ldrbd.. bwt what was the seasonal prizes? or they not given yet?

Were leaderboard reset? Or do we have to wait til spring equinox?

Vic 02-28-2016 11:29 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 678982)
Were leaderboard reset? Or do we have to wait til spring equinox?

Quote:

Posted by G Fatal (Post 678979)
they should scrap the 1k hats now considering them guilds have no idea where they are in the alltime ldrbd.. bwt what was the seasonal prizes? or they not given yet?

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Posted by fp4 (Post 676061)
the season isn't over till the spring equinox

So yea

Kuz 02-28-2016 11:32 AM

Great update finally a step in the right direction...I dont understand why people are complaining about it....I honestly would've preferred it to be 1...but I'm not complaining with 5.

I honestly would like there to be something where the next time players log on they have to leave all their guilds except 5...instead of starting the update after people are in # amount of guilds...so people are all on an equal playing field.

Also can you re-allow people to be leaders of multiple guilds please once again since guild limit is 5.

UU 02-28-2016 11:38 AM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 678985)
Great update finally a step in the right direction...I dont understand why people are complaining about it....I honestly would've preferred it to be 1...but I'm not complaining with 5.

I honestly would like there to be something where the next time players log on they have to leave all their guilds except 5...instead of starting the update after people are in # amount of guilds...so people are all on an equal playing field.

Also can you re-allow people to be leaders of multiple guilds please once again since guild limit is 5.

I dont recall you ever being able to lead multiple guilds..

Zideruic 02-28-2016 11:49 AM

Don't really feel strongly in either direction, I'm in like 10 guilds and only need to be in...3? I do wish the guilds had a higher capacity though. Not something ridiculous it just seems like 25 is a bit small.

Sarah_ 02-28-2016 11:50 AM

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Posted by Kuz
I honestly would like there to be something where the next time players log on they have to leave all their guilds except 5...instead of starting the update after people are in # amount of guilds...so people are all on an equal playing field.

Since you can't join any guilds if you have at least 5 tags, you will have to eventually leave all the guilds in order to join a new one so I don't think this is necessary.

Vic 02-28-2016 11:52 AM

Just sitting in the streak room and #NoLimit has become a thing I guess. This is entertaining.

Kuz 02-28-2016 11:56 AM

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Posted by Vic (Post 678993)
Just sitting in the streak room and #NoLimit has become a thing I guess. This is entertaining.

It's just one person asking everyone to put it in their status...don't worry about it.


Reason I do not agree with higher limit is it will ruin the points of the 5guild update kinda...because people will have more space to mass recruit in order to get GS points...if people wanna see the guild chat of a guild or something they can simply just join their ally tag.

UU 02-28-2016 12:13 PM

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Posted by Kuz (Post 678994)
It's just one person asking everyone to put it in their status...don't worry about it.


Reason I do not agree with higher limit is it will ruin the points of the 5guild update kinda...because people will have more space to mass recruit in order to get GS points...if people wanna see the guild chat of a guild or something they can simply just join their ally tag.

Mass rec for gspar does not mean a rise in points. Tf..
You obviosuly dont tower AND spar.
There needs to be just a few more allowed guil spots for players because 5 is tiny if youre an all round graal for fun player.
I wnjoy towering, gsparring, just spending time with people Ive met etc.

Or at least make it so your own guild doesnt count as a 1/5

Thallen 02-28-2016 01:46 PM

5 Guilds Only Update
 
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Posted by Vic (Post 678993)
Just sitting in the streak room and #NoLimit has become a thing I guess. This is entertaining.

And none of them have any compelling argument other than "because I don't like it"

The people with crybaby comparison statuses like "WAT NEXT ADMIN??? LIMIT ON FRIEND LIST???"... There's already been a limit on that for years

Tenchu 02-28-2016 02:06 PM

I love the idea, but I'm in 21 guilds and I don't wanna leave because of the rare names

Mangsi 02-28-2016 02:08 PM

I'm only in three guilds.
1.) Eats World (my guild)
2.) Vulpini
3.) Aperture Chemicals

I wasn't even aware this was an update

twilit 02-28-2016 03:13 PM

#guildlivesmatter

I have no reason to join any new guilds, so I probably won't leave any except a few obsolete ones. #nomorerandomguildinvites

And this is just the first part of a larger guild update, riiiiiight?

Liz 02-28-2016 03:17 PM

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Posted by Tenchu (Post 679018)
I love the idea, but I'm in 21 guilds and I don't wanna leave because of the rare names

same


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