Brussels terror attacks
 

Any thoughts

1/4 of brussels is muslim. with islamic extremism on the rise **** like this pretty disgusting but not too surprising as far as Europe is concerned.

Getting pretty tired of this sort of ****.

Ditto

It's like a hour away from where I live but other than that I've just been gaming. Things that don't directly impact me give me no emotion

Think back to when Trump said there were problems in the Belgium's capital, only to be mocked by the New York Times:
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/2...n-in-brussels/

Think back to when Brussels released a bunch of lame ads ridiculing the idea of terrorism in their country:


Belgian schoolteacher claiming Muslim students in his class were celebrating as they watched it happen:
http://i.imgur.com/px1mbcB.png

You guys ready to say there is a problem with Islam yet or are we still gonna lie so that we don't offend some people?
BUT WE'RE A RELIGION OF PEACE! IT'S A COINCIDENCE!

All that will happen is a few cute comics or cartoons, some Twitter hashtags, then we'll wait for it to happen again. Some major politicians or social media figures will say "IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT!" and the cycle will repeat itself again in a month. Political correctness and the fear of wrongly being accused as prejudice or racist is pathetically controlling a lot of people.

Thallen to describe what you said more. Muslims are seen as a problem in the netherlands/belgium because they tend to be the cause of bad stuff according to the media. Mostly the muslim teens here are the ones who have caused all of this hate towards muslims in these countries because most of them simply don't behave well. They tend to hang around on the streets and people are actually sometimes scared to walk past them because they usually harrass you etc.
Even I prefer not to walk past a group of them because they have never not tried harrassing me or trashtalking me.

I've met a ton of nice muslim people ofcourse, but it's mostly the youth that ruined it for the others.

Gtfo isis ur ****

I think the worst part about this is that the more of these attacks happen, the closer world government is being pushed to a breaking point where we will no longer tolerate terrorism and come at the Middle East with much more ferocity.

I firmly think we need to solve this non-violently now, and make actual diplomatic attempts to end conflict there.

diplomatic attempts with who though? --^

Really ****ty feeling when your friends live in belgium..

Apperently theyre targeting germany now too.

Face it, World War 3 is destined at this point, unless politicians start putting the world before their ego.

I think money plays an important role in this too though

Yah violence is pretty much the only way, they won't listen to a word we say and would just take it as a sign of weakness and just make them want to attack more

at this point it doesn't even matter how bad the Islam religion may or may not be because a lot of people who follow it are good people so nothing is going to be changed about it and there are other factors that lead these terrorists to act like this not just 100% what they learn from Islamic religion because if that was the case then all Muslims would be acting like terrorists

all they want is power and control so they shouldn't be treated like a religious group because it's much more than that therefore there is no need to dislike every muslim who follows the religion

It's sad what happened but what's even worse is being a Muslim who is now being targeted by both ISIS and other world leaders because a lot of Muslims fall victim to terrorism from ISIS as well and when we fight back using violence they are caught in the cross hairs and receive fire from both sides

there's just no sense in trying to use Islam as an argument for or against ISIS's behavior, we need to get more serious and stop debating over the religion and just get rid of these guys

why is it assumed with such certainty that a third world war is supposed to happen? it will eventually happen again, sure, but this whole "omg wurld war is brewin!!!!!!" mentality is stupid.

the two we consider to be "world wars" both happened in the early to almost mid 1900's and that's about it.

Good time to educate yourselves on what "taqiya" is:
There are many forms of deception accepted by Islam:
Keep that fresh on your mind when you see SJWs and Muslim sympathizers parading on social media about how Islam stands for peace

LOL, do you realise that we are all pretty much at peace? The UN would not be declaring war on a state, but an organisation within a state.

I'm not quite sure I understand... are you just not ok with the terminology, or... timing?

Well, I see that you don't live in the U.S., but if you did you would realize how absolutely ****ed our situation is. What do you think is going to happen if Trump is elected? After second term, something could happen, given the various global circumstances that are either already in play, or are presently growing problems. Connecting the dots isn't hard.

Trump wouldn't have the power to start a war even if he wanted, that isn't how US government works even if he was being stupid they can prevent him from making rash decisions he shouldn't

and the "****ed situation" in the U.S is a thousand times better than most countries(which see the U.S as being good not bad), it really isn't that bad besides the few ISIS problems happening

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, but I meant within 15 years or so.

Trump, and any president for that matter, is but a factor in the slippery slope, and most definitely not the direct cause. We live in one of the most influential nations, so our situation should not be degraded.

No worries, we just loaded some candlelight vigils, sympathy cartoons, and the #JeSeisBruxelles hashtag onto some heavy military aircrafts and we'll be dropping them over the terrorists' caliphate soon

How would world war 3 start if its the whole world vs isis?

*Silently watches asmr videos as I try to no freak out over another terrorist attack *

That's not what I mean. ISIS wouldn't stand a chance vs the world lol

Non-violently? It's not like we can just quarantine them from the rest of the world. This is the precise reason I think Bernie would make a terrible President. No matter how peaceful we are they won't stop their terrorism. I think we need to use violence as well. Of course to an extent, and not hurting civilians. But killing the bastards responsible for these atrocious crimes. Them or us.

Do you even understand the concept of 'World Wars'?

Yes. Why do you ask?

Many tensions in today's world are the result of the cold war. I think it's safe to unofficially coin it World War 3.

if WW3 happens it won't be due to anything foreseeable at the moment

I disagree. Most of the countries are currently against Isis/neutral. For it to be designated a World War there would have to be multiple countries fighting alongside each other.

http://imgur.com/KVcWCuJ.png

Isis will be wiped out in time, I mean they're killing themselves for god's sake!
Too inappropriate?

The cold war was primarily between the US and Soviet Union. Two nations.

There were a hell of a lot more countries involved other than the most prominent US and Soviet Union.

A lot of Countries got involved. To help their homies out.

I'm trying not to be misleading when I say this, but ISIS is only a contributing factor to a world war. It isn't a centralized motive.

Pavel Felgenhauer, a Russian military analyst, says that a nuclear war is now likely.

I haven't heard anything about this, but if so, ****. Why does he suspect this?

Link plz.

There are many links, but I found this one:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/experts...ar-war/5509195

Now, with new tensions arising from North Korea, Iran, and several other states, I predict that once Iran restrictions are over something serious may happen.

Violence against the middle east hasn't worked for the past, almost 3 decades now. I think its very clear that neither airstrikes nor boots on the ground are going to fix the problems we have in the middle east, and even if it were enough government in the middle east is obviously incapable of holding territory or taking care of its citizens.

How about we start by un****ing the ridiculous post-war borders we made for those countries, or try to resolve the cultural conflicts going on there, actually help build a government that isn't lead by corrupt leaders that simply serve the goals of superpowers?

We are bombing cities, hospitals, market places. That's not solving problems, many people there don't have access to news and current events like we do, they don't know what is going on in, or understand global politics. All we are doing is breeding a generation of muslims with a hate for the western world. I mean really imagine that, the people of the country you are bombing don't like you.


Ninjaedit: I do think that we need more American military support in Syria to help keep peace and provide aid.

true, but he can still order military action.


Wasn't white-mans violence responsible for ISIS' uprising? They're willing to kill themselves for their beliefs you think they're going to stop because we use "violence" That will only create more anti-american sentiment and push more people into ISIS type groups.



If you don't want them to attack you stop fooking with them. Stop getting involved in muslim business.


And how do you suggest we distinguish the terrorist from the non-terrorist? That's the whole problem with these terror groups they blend in with the regular civilians when they have too.

how would it be world war 2 if it's the whole world versus Germany?
>Japan logged in
>Italy logged in
>Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, and Hungary logged in

Pathetic to see people still defend Religion.
Read some of the Quran its disgusting.

Ya, we're the bad guys, you solved it

http://i.imgur.com/8cTDdsz.png?1

I'm honestly tired of this crap they should have been on guard always that's how it should be always because there are always threats. I don't give two fuc*s on what's going on over there

Like many extremist groups before it, ISIS is a perversion of the Islamic faith and is not Islam. ISIS is not only a threat to the world but a very big danger to the religion of Islam and the Muslim people.

ISIS believes itself to be Islamic. Members quote from the Quran. People who use isolated verses from the Quran alone are usually Islamophobes or Islamic extremists.There are many passages in the Quran that condemn violence, God giving people the freedom to choose their faith, that religion cannot be imposed on others, that killing a single innocent person is the same as killing every person. These verses are nowhere to be found in ISIS propaganda. The group reads Islam selectively.

The Muslim people need our help and support to fight ISIS.
Ignorance and hate never solves anything.

This has nothing to do with who's the "bad" guy. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned before that 2 wrongs don't make a right. This is about "us" acting like we didn't contribute anything towards their hate for us. This shock at how they hate us for no reason.

You're the Muslim expert, tell me how/why ISIS became what it is today.



lol I wouldn't doubt that the same dudes crying about needing to make "our" country safer would be the first ones to criticize these laws that followed 9/11. We don't need laws to keep us safe we need walls :D

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...nges-from-9-11


It's a lose lose situation. The governemnt used anti-muslim/terrorism sentiment after 9/11 to get these laws passed and now they're abused against non-terrorist acts.

That's called kitman, as stated in an earlier post. It's perfectly fine for them to lie and be deceptive if it means to gain the trust of non-believers.
ISIS is not the first terrorist group that represents Islam. It's not even up for debate that the religion is plagued by violence and intolerance. People love saying that not all Muslims are terrorists, but that's an empty statement. You should be asking what all terrorists are, and nearly all terrorists end up being Muslim. Is that just some strange coincidence?

We're never going to be able to fight the problem until people like you get real about it and stop making some disconnect between Islam and violence. It does not matter if people catchphrase it as a "religion of peace" or if there are hugs and kisses in the Quran. None of that excuses the religion for the terror and violence it's bringing to the world.

But do the ends justify the means of your implied solution?

If I interpreted it correctly, I think what you're saying is that Muslims should be stripped of their freedom of religion in order to rid the world of its disease -- terrorism. But we're yet to figure out how exactly we can/will do that.

Or, if Trump becomes president, we can build an entire wall to restrict Muslims from entering the country. Perhaps others should do the same.

Just kidding, that's an utterly terrible and highly expensive project.

Wont be surprised if these terrorists are coming in with the never ending flow of migrants.

Honestly your right it's just logic

The problem with many conservative media outlets is that they exploit and politicize these attacks to further propagate their agenda of being anti-muslim. Much how liberals use exploit and politicize mass shootings to further their anti gun-control rhetoric.

The reality is that the number of muslim extremists is nominal. According to a study done by Europol, which is the EU's law-enforcement agency, they concluded that only two percent of 152 terror attacks in 2013 were religiously motivated.

Another study done by the FBI says that 94% of terrorist attacks were not done by muslims. To put this into perspective, think about the amount of practicing muslims in the world. There are 1.6 billion muslims.

I agree with you with one point: we need to stop Islam extremism. But we can't associate the words "terrorism" and "Islam" much like we can't associate the words "terrorism" and "Christianity". There are Christians willing to blow up an abortion clinic, but we don't see all of them as terrorists. It just does not make sense to me.

Sources:
https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/p...rism-2002-2005
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/...rorism-europe/

Always seek information from authentic sources, don't form your opinion from propaganda and Islamiphobic information. Step out of your bubble, meet Muslim people, visit a Muslim land if given the chance. Ignorance is a disease that spreads hate.

"Kitman" and "Taqiyya", two favorite buzzwords used Islamiphobes.

"Taqiyya" grants Muslims to right to lie about their belief in order to escape persecution. Renouncing Islam under duress, is the only application of “taqiyya” that exists in Sunni Islam, which 85% of Muslims follow.

If Al-Qaeda captured some Christian missionaries and threatened to kill them unless they declare belief in Islam, no sane person would take issue with a pretend confession. If the Nazis knocked on your door and asked if you are hiding any Jews in your attic, are you going to lie and deceive them? Allowing deception to escape torture and death is simply common sense. And can be found in the Judeo-Christian tradition as well. Even U.S. law takes into account acts done under duress.

ISIS is an extremist group, a perversion of the actual religion of Islam. ISIS people are not going around lying about their beliefs or sugar coating their violent philosophy. Their harsh, rigid, violent message is clear cut and free from deception.

1.7 billion Muslims Worldwide
Estimated 30,000 ISIS
that's 0.017% ISIS

When authentic practicing Muslims express their peaceful views, we dismiss them as "Taqiyya" ("deceptive campaigns")? On the other hand, when extremist and fundamentalist Muslims express their belligerent and violent views, we accept them as being "real Islam”?

And we all know that the origins or terrorism have nothing to do with religion but everything to do with politics and the oppression of people from their rightful lands.

Both my parents are from Iran and my mom is Muslim, I still despise Islam and think it's a plague.

The issue at hand is larger than religion though. A lot of Americans don't realize this but some European countries (such as Sweden) have had a massive influx of Middle Eastern immigrants since the 80's. Most of the violent crime, rape, gang related ****, etc in Sweden have been coming from immigrants and even 2nd generation (people of foreign ethnicities who are born and raised in Sweden).

The city I live in is the highest per capita in ISIS recruitments. It's not just Islam, it's almost a cultural thing with some of these animals.

That is ****ing ******ed and completely incorrect. That is not at all what this ISIS problem stems from nor what it is about.

And Canada's just chilling.