Ratio vs High wins
 

Let's say you manage to get a lot of wins. What would you rather have?

An 8:1 ratio, 8,000-1,000 / 2,400-300
or
60,000-15,000, 4:1 ratio

Which would you prefer? You get both fairly easily and legit.

Second

Ratio is pointless , too many selective sparrers have abused it (primel,pazkez,eko,smackdown,Marc,etc)

Wins, ratio would just make players want to be selective in spar.

..AND Before this group who will comment on this spar thread then decide to change pk, I pker and majority of pkers won't want kill/death ratio on profile.

Ratio given the general knowledge that I'd kms before sideroom unless things changed

I would like wins, losses, and ratio, and kills, deaths, and ratio on profiles. At some point, you have to forget the sensitive players' opinions and show statistics to create more competition.

A lot of people have said,

"Wins, because that means you have more experience, and have sparred against everyone."

"Wins, because it's less common to have that many."

I did a separate poll in-game, and counted 32 for wins, and 7 for ratio. I think most of the people that picked ratio, picked it, since it's a lot easier to get 8,000 wins, than 40k+.

easy =/= spend more time

If you could obtain both legitimately then obviously I would say ratio. Assuming "legit" means no side rooming or selective sparring noobs. If you go 8,000-1,000 in the main room then you should get a much better ratio at 60k wins than 4:1.

The person who posted that thread and the majority of the people who agreed with the idea were PKers... It's the sparrers who were disagreeing. Do you even try anymore?

Just thought of this because of this post. Why doesn't classic just make one queue area? Everyone joins in that one area, and it warps you to multiple different spar rooms when you're up. That way you can't go to a different room and try to selective spar.

I've asked for that so many times.

Could just make a room coded like the crab chance room, where it has a player limit, and the next person to enter crab chance enters a new room.

Up to staff, idk, maybe they are busy.

What I think could get done with current staff knowledge.

You mean deaths in stats, not k/d ratio slightly different having 10,000kills 10,000deaths or ratio 1-1pr whatever...

same thing, dude
if your deaths are shown, your ratio is shown as long as you can do basic math

Doesn't really matter that much. Just a number.

I voted for ratio, but the point is basically to see what others would choose.

I wonder if people had 20k spar wins already, then would they go for 60k wins, instead of starting over? Cause, obviously you could gain more wins after 8k, but the idea was that you stopped at 8k, and didn't gain any more wins.

So high ratio or low ratio with lots of wins?

I just went w/ ratio because it was twice as high as the wins ratio, and 9k spars with an 8.0 ratio is still a pretty good bit, enough to be "experienced" at least.

id rather have my number of gst wins displayed so i can laugh at tryhards who bully people

I just come in to spar for fun.
Idc if i win. I care more about the numbers.

Id love both tbh, 8:1 ratio even though Its too hard for me to do now so I'd go for higher wins and a good ratio if possible.
:pluffy:

Well, my spar is garbage plus I dislike spar, so gimme that 8-1. Would rather have a great ratio that I don't have to ever touch again then one that shows I've put massive amounts of Time into an activity that I don't enjoy(I could enjoy it again someday, but that's true for me right now).

If I could reset my ratio to 0-0, I would probably spar till I was something like 1000-400ish. Not a great ratio, but it would be the main room and that's about how I do, depending on whose sparring.

Well looking at the vote yeah everyones pretty much undecided than actually wanting for it to happen, I'm still confused why these threads are coming up? like ratio, deaths showing, flag indicators.. When All this can already be viewed anyway, seems really unneeded rather they worked on activities that guilds can get points from whenever this point system comes about than to change something thats been there for ages with not much meither over it from players.

Bwt someone suggested in a thread though that maybe they could have both i.e it show your kills or spar wins then you click it and it will change to k/d or w/l ratio.

What? This isn't an idea thread... nor is it replacing any stats... it's just to know which stats people would prefer... does anyone bother reading anymore?

Option 1: 60,000 wins - 15,000 losses (4:1 ratio)
Option 2: 8,000 wins - 1,000 losses (8:1 ratio)

Lmao but the point being is seeing views on the matter-that if was big majority wanting it possibly would happen, idk why anyone would make thread on something they don't actually want in game and just to view how others think of it without any intention of thinking this isn't an idea though

What are you even talking about? I wanted to know if people prefer 40k+ wins with a 4:1 ratio, or 8k wins with an 8:1 ratio... 5x the amount wins vs a 2x the ratio.

Hes just asking for our opinions and preferences lol

I prefer ratios, just because it actually shows skill. Having tons of wins doesn't mean anything if you have tons of losses too. It just shows you played a lot. Ratios actually measure your skill more.

in my opinion, ratio meant a lot more back in the day but since spar has declined, it is a lot easier to get a good ratio through selective sparring or just playing against the huge amount of negatives.

if i see someone with 1300-200 win-loss, i'm not impressed at all and assume they're a joke and really easy.

if i see someone with 27000-10000, i still don't view them as good but they're a lot better in my mind than the 1300-200 player and i have a lot more respect for them.

There's a lot of things to take into context when you're looking at someone's spar ratio, mostly when they achieved it

2009-2010: Everyone is new and on iDevices, the fastest to learn probably achieved the best ratios
2011: PCs from client come here and **** on all of the iDevice players due to superior peripherals and years of experience
2012-2013: More PCs come, iDevices slowly begin to figure them out but they should still be dominating
2014-now: The server is incredibly laggy which tends to favor more defensive players

So, you can take a lot of stuff from that...

If you're a PC that sparred in 2011, there's really no excuse not to have some godly ratio
If you're an iDevice that started in 2011-2013, your ratio probably got tanked due to having to face these PC players while you're still learning

PC players like myself and others had this natural advantage when we came here, because we didn't need to dedicate hundreds or thousands of spars to learn how to do it... That's why you don't really see iDevices with crazy ratios, there's a learning curve for totally new players and that's going to take hundreds of spars which is going to forever affect your ratio

Anyway, I'd always prefer to have the better ratio but I wouldn't judge anyone by their ratio until they're at 10k wins (unless you're a PC player coming from client, in which case you have no excuse to ever be below 3:1)

Ya thats true
in 2010 i PKed and sparred sometimes and ended up with a 1,000-2,000 Wins to loss ratio which i then fixed in mid 2010 to 3,000-3,000, then in 2011 i fixed it to 7,000-5,000. Then when i created a new account in 2012 I went 6,000-2500 because I had a new idev 4 generation while half of the spar community was still on their iPhone 2 or 3. Which allowed me to get great at comboing people (At the time it was easy because people were slow and the server didn't lag as much) Only people I found myself losing to were Kevin91, Shan, Some US members, and most PC's. Which is why i started raging about PCs because in my mind they were new, and must be cheating to beat me. Obviously I was wrong

Ratio makes sense. If we take away the losses that guy from galatic runners with 10k losses might kill himself. Think about the children!