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Distorted_P2P 05-25-2016 12:19 AM

Bobby Shmurda
 
His trial was supposed to be this month but got pushed back, basically if you don't know about this **** though he basically snitched on himself with this song, "Hot *****"


But the reason I'm bringing this up isn't because of this moron, it brings up a bigger question. How can they use his lyrics as evidence? Isn't there freedom of speech, and even if not wouldn't every gangster rapper be in jail? I could dig up songs with worse lyrics that are likely true in a minute.

What do you guys think? He turned down an 8-year plea, and his homie just got 50 years, I personally think he's ****ed, but if I was his lawyer I'd have a field day about the lyrics as evidence.

Bryan* 05-25-2016 12:22 AM

I only know of him cause of DJ Akademics and he's not so lucky.

Distorted_P2P 05-25-2016 12:38 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 707802)
I only know of him cause of DJ Akademics and he's not so lucky.

*gains fame, gets a record deal, has many great times*
*shortly after gets indicted for a boatload of crimes and will likely go to jail for the rest of his life*
*gets 8 year plea, turns it down because of terrible, terrible advice*

idk he sounds pretty lucky

here's his 63 page indictment btw

Skyzer 05-25-2016 07:29 AM

I'm sure they have more evidence than the song.

Distorted_P2P 05-25-2016 07:32 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 707897)
I'm sure they have more evidence than the song.

They do, read the indictment. But they're claiming the song is a 'confession'.

Skyzer 05-25-2016 07:47 AM

63 pages? Hell no. I don't care nearly enough about someone dumb enough to rap about a crime they committed.

Distorted_P2P 05-25-2016 08:08 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 707904)
63 pages? Hell no. I don't care nearly enough about someone dumb enough to rap about a crime they committed.

yeah they got a lot on him apparently

Crono 05-25-2016 08:36 AM

only thing freedom of speech is protecting you from is getting in trouble for criticizing the government and **** like that

altho the tunes are nice, this trap scene is turning out to be worse than the whole gangster rap thing. all hail chiraq.

Illusions 05-25-2016 12:02 PM

This is a man I feel I have to have racism towards..
Or just execrate since racism against one person would be weird.

Skyzer 05-25-2016 12:39 PM

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Posted by Illusions (Post 707937)
This is a man I feel I have to have racism towards..
Or just execrate since racism against one person would be weird.

Not liking him doesn't make you racist. You're allowed not to like someone.

Illusions 05-25-2016 12:41 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 707948)
Not liking him doesn't make you racist. You're allowed not to like someone.

He is a stereotype that makes people look bad. I'm suprised he didn't get shot already.

Skyzer 05-25-2016 12:58 PM

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Posted by Illusions (Post 707949)
He is a stereotype that makes people look bad. I'm suprised he didn't get shot already.

I don't like you.

You can't spell, your grammar is terrible, and you're a bigot. I'd go so far as to assume that you're probably uneducated. It is an absolute miracle that you're even capable of learning how to browse the internet, let alone even use a computer. But that's mean, so I guess I should apologize like a civilized person--something you're not, by the way.

So, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you don't think about the things you say, and I'm sorry that you think that it's okay to call yourself a racist. I'm sorry that you're too immature to understand that stereotypes, while based on reality; are generally incorrect portrayals of peoples and cultures, and those stereotypes shouldn't be used to fuel hate. I'm sorry that this immaturity has you looking at what the man is to judge him instead of the crimes he's committed.

SO SORRY

Crono 05-25-2016 02:45 PM

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you're grammar is terrible
LEL

Mangsi 05-25-2016 02:55 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 708000)
LEL

I'm sorry sir, but you are grammar is terrible.

Illusions 05-26-2016 01:49 AM

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Posted by Mangsi (Post 708006)
you are grammar.

What the hell, go to school.

Nabu Lapse 05-26-2016 02:36 AM

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Posted by Illusions (Post 708209)
What the hell, go to school.

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Skyzer 05-26-2016 03:03 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 708000)
LEL

You got me. That happened because I was moving sentences around.

Distorted_P2P 05-26-2016 03:30 AM

why does this happen to all my threads

just wanted to have a legitimate debate involving a dude who snitched on himself unknowingly

Skyzer 05-26-2016 05:15 AM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 708250)
why does this happen to all my threads

just wanted to have a legitimate debate involving a dude who snitched on himself unknowingly

He's an idiot. That's all there is to say.

Crono 05-26-2016 12:19 PM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 708233)
You got me. That happened because I was moving sentences around.

happens to the best of us

PigParty 05-26-2016 12:28 PM

He couldn't (or at least shouldn't) even be charged if song lyrics are the only evidence. I'm sure they have talked to other people and built up more evidence than only song lyrics. I haven't followed the case, but I remember hearing a long time ago about someone's song lyrics admitting to a crime... I don't know if this is that exact case or not. I would also think the prosecutors would have a victim. Song lyrics themselves wouldn't get him convicted, let alone charged for a crime. That, and other evidence could, though. If he has ever said that his song lyrics are true or based on something that he did, then that could easily be used against him. Freedom of speech doesn't say that the speech someone does say (in any form of speech) cannot be used against them. It would actually be harder for the prosecutors - unless they had other credible evidence - to use that against him because the defense would have an easy defense against it.

Distorted_P2P 05-26-2016 12:50 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 708297)
He couldn't (or at least shouldn't) even be charged if song lyrics are the only evidence. I'm sure they have talked to other people and built up more evidence than only song lyrics. I haven't followed the case, but I remember hearing a long time ago about someone's song lyrics admitting to a crime... I don't know if this is that exact case or not. I would also think the prosecutors would have a victim. Song lyrics themselves wouldn't get him convicted, let alone charged for a crime. That, and other evidence could, though. If he has ever said that his song lyrics are true or based on something that he did, then that could easily be used against him. Freedom of speech doesn't say that the speech someone does say (in any form of speech) cannot be used against them. It would actually be harder for the prosecutors - unless they had other credible evidence - to use that against him because the defense would have an easy defense against it.

posted the indictment earlier in the thread, it's pretty interesting to read


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