She was shot and died today at her concert.
RIP.

Check out her songs at her YouTube Channel:
zeldaxlove64 Christina Grimmie

Saw the news yesterday on my laptop, crazy how it happened. Luckily her brother prevented the gun-man from doing more harm but may she rest in peace.

Wait a minute, no one here talked about Ali last week; who tf even is this girl?

Right? Only reason I know anything about it is because I live right next to where her show was.

She wasn't shot today. She was shot late last night and died a few hours later. It's truly sickening. May she rest in peace and may her family get through this terrible tragedy. What's even more sad is the video she posted on Snapchat earlier that day of asking people to come out to her concert.

No disrespect to Ali but there wasn't much to talk about. He was old and honestly surprised he lived as long as he did considering his condition. This was a young girl who was murdered in front of others. Not to mention she's much more relevant to this generation than Ali was.

It makes sense that there's a thread for what happened to her, if you want a thread about Ali go make one.

Police revealed the man who shot Christina:
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/polic...mmie/337292813

NO YOU NEVER GIVE HIM ATTENTION FFS

There's a chrome extention that changes names of murderers to names of their victims.

Third place winner of 6th season of The Voice

Why do citizens have guns?
They must only belong to policemen and hunters.

RIP Ali
RIP Christina Grimmie.

Does anyone know where she was shot at? Like at what part of her body she was shot at?

The shooter shot her many times. I don't know where. He had 2 guns and opened hell on her

that's stupid lol, sometimes the police can't be there quick enough, plus even if we have super strict gun laws people are just gonna get them illegally lol

I'd be willing to bet those weapons were obtained legally.

You don't buy 2 untraced guns for 1 murder.

because the US is slow to change

freedumb

So is that is person I'm not really into music

My lord. A simple Google search wouldn't hurt. She was a singer. She was on Adam Levine's team on The Voice in 2014 and won third place. Adam still hooked her up with a record deal and she was doing songs and covers. Look her up for more info.

**** me, another shooting at Orlando last night.

This time 20 people were killed and over 40 injured.

This has been a very bad week.

I don't care what other countries are doing. Nobody will ever take my guns away from me. >:(

I wouldn't mind if religion was taken away tho. :rolleyes:

Not dying?

Interesting argument, but I think I can prove without a doubt that people are dying in other countries.

aaaaaaaand because we can't save every life, that would mean that it's pointless to try and protect a fraction?

Interesting you say this.

Because there are about several million people out there who would care immensely if religion was taken away.

So Ali is a better human than this girl who was shot?

Which is why I didn't even take twilt's post seriously. Ali was a great guy but come on we know his time was coming sooner or later. He lived for a long age and had many accomplishments and feats in his life. He will be remembered. This girl couldn't even get past 22. She didn't get to live up to his age. Her life was cut too short and not even in a pleasant way. Gunshots. May both Ali and Christina RIP.

I mean... I honestly thought Ali was dead long ago. But I still don't really understand who this girl is.

Don't care. My right as an American to own a gun. :^) You can't do anything about it, nah-nah!

Same with guns.

She placed third in The Voice. Got a record label. Released a couple albums. Was a big supporter and fan of eSports and the North American League of Legends Championship Series.

she also have a youtube channel with 3m subscribers.
but idk why they disabled all the comments

yea?

I agree with everything else, and I don't mean to discredit Christina's accomplishments, but there is no way this girl is more relevant than Ali. I've never even heard of this girl till this thread, Ali is famous world wide and considered by many the GOAT in fighting.

Regardless though both are very sad and their fame doesn't really change the fact that they are both cold now. RIP

You probably didn't intend this but its not really appropriate to twist a thread on the murder of someone to fit a political agenda.

I don't see a problem in asking the question, why the **** did someone allow this human piece of **** to have firearms?

If you ignore firearm rights when someone literally dies to one, then when is the appropriate time to bring them up?

Doesn't mean he's more relevant to the current, younger generation.

You also gotta keep in mind that Ali wasn't murdered in his 20s.

The obvious solution is to take away all guns

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckw4LMmWsAAvixO.jpg:large

Wow everyone should just move to Spain or Japan.

You're comparing apples to oranges though. There's dramatically different social issues/less funding to control guns going on in different parts of the world.

That map isn't true. Barely anyone in Germany owns a gun

The only reason you own a gun here is for hunting reasons. And I'm pretty sure that over 60 million Germans don't own a gun

Europe has a super strict gun laws and barely any shootings. Not sure where you pulled them from but get your facts straight

Plus an automatic gun isn't the same like a gun you have to reload 10 minutes. So that also isn't in there.

Ya I'm pretty sure Australia had some sort of ban on assault rifles/automatic weapons, which can do a lot more harm than a handgun.

Are you even reading the graph properly? It's 100% true and based on the sources cited, more reliable than some random "estimation" by a dude on Graalians... The graph shows intentional homicides, not shootings. I don't think you understand what you're looking at.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number...ita_by_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

Germany is ranked 15th on with 30 guns per 100 residents. A quick Google search would have prevented yourself from looking stupid.



Exactly, and the US leads the world in automatic weapons... And we're still on the low end of intentional homicides per 100k. What point are you proving? Mine?

The point isn't "guns can't kill people," no **** they can. The point is that people who want to kill will find ways to do it, regardless of how accessible a gun is.

I actually did a Google search and most searches I found is a lower gun rate then yours. Most of the maps in English Google are the same simply recolored. Here for example is a gun ownership map of Germany ranging from 0-17,5% or at the darkest colour higher then 17,5%

Not everything Google spits out is the truth honey

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thallen if you dont think gun ownership is an issue in the US then i dunno what to say

See. And if Crono and I actually agree on something for once. There has to be something to it ;)

If the one who killed Christina used practically any other weapon, I'm sure it would've played out differently for the better. Not to mention the one who tackled him didn't have a firearm, and even if he did at that point, it was too late.

For example. In Germany we don't shoot the people that enter out property for no reason. You can also Google on how many bullets the police uses here a year and how many people they actually kill. We know what guns can do and guns are a horrible horrible thing. Guns are not in the American constitution but of course the NRA and most republicans lay it out as if it is. There is no word in the Constitution stating "every American, no matter if a criminal or not, may own a gun and shoot people"

In addition Obama tried to issue background checks. So people who are mentally disturbed and criminals wouldn't be able to buy guns legally. But hey. Of course it got voted down. I'm pretty sure most of Europe is disgusted by your love of guns

Googles something, claims it's true, then punctuates the statement with, "Not everything you see on Google is true"
I can't argue statistics with an idiot, sorry, come back when you learn how to properly read a graph and we'll try again



That's not even the argument. People not taking statistics into perspective is gross and stupid to me.

We are far above every other country in the world in guns per capita, yet our intentional homicide rate is on par with or even lower than many first-world countries with less than 1/4th of the guns we have. Why is that? People act as if a homicide committed by a gun would not have happened if the gun didn't exist.

What taking away everyone's guns might do is prevent these mass shootings, but there are other steps that should be taken before that. How about not giving guns to radical Muslims or mentally ill people?



He walked up to her, she opened her arms to hug him, and he shot her... You know how many different ways she could have been killed?

He's trying to prove that there's false information on Google. How ****ing thick are you?

He shot her multiple times. Anything that could do the same amount of damage in such minimal time wouldn't be as easy to conceal.

RIP Christina Grimmie
 

I actually checked my sources on where I got my data from. And here is another thing. That's the actual number of gun owners in Germany. And we have about 80 million people. I don't see those 30 % there. And that are the actual numbers that we count cause we know who has a gun legally and who doesn't. 1,4 million out of 80 million. I'm sorry but I don't even see 5 %

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