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Ivy 07-24-2016 10:02 AM

#berniemustdisavow
 
So, apparently **** is blowing up on Twitter about the primaries being rigged. Wiki leaks recently exposed the 20,000 deleted emails, proving the DNC favored Clinton from the start.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/berniemustdisavow

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ap-hacke...ernie-sanders/

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/..._must_disavow/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-democrats-a/

What are your thoughts on this?

Crono 07-24-2016 12:33 PM

my thoughts:

xD

PigParty 07-24-2016 12:38 PM

this isn't news. everyone already knew the DNC wanted Hillary Clinton to win. Bernie Sanders should just campaign nonstop about it so they actually do something about it.

DanteGraal 07-24-2016 02:59 PM

So the democratic party supported the candidate with the best chance of winning the national election. So what. That's how political parties have always work.

Distorted_P2P 07-24-2016 03:24 PM

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Posted by DanteGraal (Post 725509)
So the democratic party supported the candidate with the best chance of winning the national election. So what. That's how political parties have always work.

That's called bias and it's not only frowned upon, but it's against the rules.

Ivy 07-24-2016 07:50 PM

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Posted by Distorted_P2P (Post 725515)
That's called bias and it's not only frowned upon, but it's against the rules.

^^^

MikvaGraal 07-24-2016 08:09 PM

Bernie sucks anyways communism never works

Ark 07-24-2016 10:50 PM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 725553)
Bernie sucks anyways communism never works

Please be kidding lmao

MattKan 07-24-2016 11:42 PM

I don't think it's an automatic truth that a completely free and unbiased election is a necessity

the dnc's objective is to get a candidate elected. it makes sense that they would protect the integrity of the party by pushing for the candidate with the best chance of winning the general to receive the nomination

maybe this is flawed but imo this is just the dnc serving its constitutive purpose as a political party. i am not a fan of bernie's narrative which suggests that the solution here is to reform the party from within. if we are to criticize what has happened here (arguably true) then we need to direct our attention to the system itself (i.e. the existence of an electoral system which favors two politlcal parties in what is effectively a binary) rather than trying to put band aids on the wound.

Thallen 07-25-2016 01:42 AM

Clinton is a piece of ****, the Democratic party views themselves as the moral high ground when dozens of these emails show them playing off of the stupidity of minority group voters, and the American media is controlled by the left

Nothing too shocking to me
The saddest part is Bernie will just take this in the butt and continue to hold his head down and support Clinton

Khai 07-25-2016 02:10 AM

it's okay trump is winning

MikvaGraal 07-25-2016 02:17 AM

I'll bet anything this asshole Bernie Sanders already knew he would never become president and after years of realizing what a loser he has been (maintaining only a $100,000 net worth, which is low for any politician) decided to increase his wealth by running for president collecting all the campaign funds through his offshore Cayman Island bank accounts.

PigParty 07-25-2016 03:31 AM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 725585)
I'll bet anything this asshole Bernie Sanders already knew he would never become president and after years of realizing what a loser he has been (maintaining only a $100,000 net worth, which is low for any politician) decided to increase his wealth by running for president collecting all the campaign funds through his offshore Cayman Island bank accounts.

I really can't tell if you're just joking, or if you really are that stupid.

Crono 07-25-2016 08:15 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 725579)
Clinton is a piece of ****, the Democratic party views themselves as the moral high ground when dozens of these emails show them playing off of the stupidity of minority group voters

Yeah I'm sure Trump is a swell guy with very intelligent voters. Both Trump and Clinton are **** candidates.

Thallen 07-25-2016 08:53 AM

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Posted by Crono (Post 725626)
Yeah I'm sure Trump is a swell guy with very intelligent voters. Both Trump and Clinton are **** candidates.

They're not even comparable

Ivy 07-25-2016 10:38 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 725629)
They're not even comparable

You both have good points

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Posted by Crono (Post 725626)
Yeah I'm sure Trump is a swell guy with very intelligent voters. Both Trump and Clinton are **** candidates.

Lol

PigParty 07-25-2016 01:39 PM

One candidate's a moron, the other one is corrupt.

Distorted_P2P 07-25-2016 02:51 PM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 725585)
I'll bet anything this asshole Bernie Sanders already knew he would never become president and after years of realizing what a loser he has been (maintaining only a $100,000 net worth, which is low for any politician) decided to increase his wealth by running for president collecting all the campaign funds through his offshore Cayman Island bank accounts.

Bernie Sanders has always been a political (and non-political) activist. Here's a picture of him marching with Martin Luther King Jr.

And here's him endorsing Rev. Jesse Jackson in 1988:


Oh and look at this, Bernie Sanders donated 4% of his income to charity, 8350$ out of his 205,000$. You know how much other candidates like Donald Trump donated? 10,000$ total in 7 YEARS. Who cares if Bernie isn't rich (even though he has double what you said) he's way more charitable.

Crono 07-25-2016 03:08 PM

dont feed the troll @distorted. if you need my patented Graalian Essentials: Ignorelist™ lemme kno

Skyzer 07-25-2016 03:57 PM

Funny. Isn't Distorted on that list?

TD* 07-25-2016 05:34 PM

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Posted by DanteGraal (Post 725509)
So the democratic party supported the candidate with the best chance of winning the national election. So what. That's how political parties have always work.

To think that there was a time when Americans cared about corruption. Watergate was a big deal. Dozens of staffers were incarcerated and a president was impeached. Now we shrug it off saying "that's how it always was." People aren't bothered with this nowadays. How low will you stoop to get your preferred candidate in. What does that say about the States?

Crono 07-25-2016 06:19 PM

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Posted by TD* (Post 725677)
To think that there was a time when Americans cared about corruption. Watergate was a big deal. Dozens of staffers were incarcerated and a president was impeached. Now we shrug it off saying "that's how it always was." People aren't bothered with this nowadays. How low will you stoop to get your preferred candidate in. What does that say about the States?

much easier to be a slacktivist. this is a problem in other countries too, not just the US.

i dont mind people being interested in politics, but the people who seem to know what theyre talking about get drowned out by sjw ******s and such.

DanteGraal 07-25-2016 07:15 PM

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Posted by TD* (Post 725677)
To think that there was a time when Americans cared about corruption. Watergate was a big deal. Dozens of staffers were incarcerated and a president was impeached. Now we shrug it off saying "that's how it always was." People aren't bothered with this nowadays. How low will you stoop to get your preferred candidate in. What does that say about the States?

What corruption? These emails are from after April when Sanders had already lost.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/wikile...egate-fec-jvf/

This is all well after Bernie's campaign sued the DNC, him breaking fundraising pledges and doing nothing for the party, and Bernie's campaign breach of Clinton's voter data. The race was effectively over - and he just wouldn't go away. Anyone saying this is "corruption" is looking at evidence that hasn't been leaked, yet.

PigParty 07-25-2016 10:04 PM

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Posted by DanteGraal (Post 725689)
What corruption? These emails are from after April when Sanders had already lost.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/wikile...egate-fec-jvf/

This is all well after Bernie's campaign sued the DNC, him breaking fundraising pledges and doing nothing for the party, and Bernie's campaign breach of Clinton's voter data. The race was effectively over - and he just wouldn't go away. Anyone saying this is "corruption" is looking at evidence that hasn't been leaked, yet.

Lost? He hadn't dropped out yet. He may very well have lost because of the momentum Hillary got. If Bernie wasn't treated fairly and the DNC favored Hillary, they could have changed the momentum which could be the reason he lost. You aren't seriously saying it doesn't matter? Bernie Sanders had the right to sue them, and that did not give the DNC the right to mistreat him. It's obvious you're biased toward Hillary, but you can't seriously believe it doesn't matter. Just because the emails may have been from "after April" doesn't have any affect on whether or not it was corrupt. It represents the corruption and divide in the government for how they twist things in order to push their agenda - no matter what the people want.

Explain how this isn't corruption within the DNC?
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4091
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11056

Fulgore 07-26-2016 01:30 AM

Even though it is corrupt, Sanders was not turning his campaign around from that point, just to put the nail in that coffin. You owe me $20 Yog I called it months ago when he still "had a chance".

Thallen 07-26-2016 01:34 AM

The best part is that the moment Debbie quit the DNC, Clinton immediately hired her
After Benghazi and the emails, I don't even think she cares about her reputation anymore

PigParty 07-26-2016 02:32 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 725723)
The best part is that the moment Debbie quit the DNC, Clinton immediately hired her
After Benghazi and the emails, I don't even think she cares about her reputation anymore

Just shows how bad both candidates are - Trump praised Roger Ailles after he "stepped down" from Fox News.

Distorted_P2P 07-26-2016 03:03 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 725664)
Funny. Isn't Distorted on that list?

nah "Distorted" is on it, I'm a different guy

Skyzer 07-26-2016 05:12 AM


MikvaGraal 07-26-2016 05:56 AM

Find it hilarious bern-tards support Bernie the weak boy sanders lol, dude proved last night he has no backbone and is unfit to lead this nation.

PigParty 07-26-2016 01:09 PM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 725743)
Find it hilarious bern-tards support Bernie the weak boy sanders lol, dude proved last night he has no backbone and is unfit to lead this nation.

Better Sanders than Crooked Hillary who lets military soldiers die, gives away emails to Russian hackers, wants to put people out of work, gets donations from foreign countries, and has her husband meet with the AG to make sure she doesn't get criminally charged for breaking the law.

Thallen 07-28-2016 04:44 AM

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Wikileaks has confirmed that Bernie Sanders was cheated out of the election... but how? How about this...

So we know Debbie Wasserman Schultz was the co-chair of Hillary's 2008 presidential run where she lost to Obama. So in order to lock down the nomination for 2016, Hillary had to get DWS in charge of the DNC and manipulate it from the inside.

In order for this to work, they would not only have to get the current DNC chair to step down, but recommend DWS for the position. The Clinton's would have to promise the current chair something... Something more prestigious than being the head of the democratic party. So what would they get?

According to http://rulers.org/usgovt.html#parties, the person who stepped down from that position to have Obama appoint DWS was none other than... Tim Kaine.
****ty

PigParty 07-28-2016 02:57 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 725933)
****ty

but Donna Brazile took over after Tim Kaine.


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