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fp4 01-24-2012 10:19 PM

Sparring Reform
 
In the past couple days you may have noticed some of these changes we have been making in preparation of improving the quality of sparring on iClassic.

Many of the changes target the huge amount of illegitimate players (i.e: boosters, pausers) who have largely been ignored up till now.

New Features:
  • The formula that determines spar rating has been changed to reflect active skill. Spar ratings have been reset in order to accommodate for this. Spar wins and losses will not be reset.
  • Competitive sparring is limited to SuperNick's Spar Arena in Graal City. All other spar arenas can be used for practice and no longer affect wins, losses or spar rating.
  • New rooms were added to SuperNick's Spar Arena with queue displays.
  • A streak system has been added in the tournament spar, where spar winners can continue on without having to rejoin the spar.
  • Brand new players can no longer participate in sparring at SuperNick's Spar Arena until they have experience on the server. New players will still be able to spar in the practice spar arenas.
  • Map has been disabled in all spars.
  • If two guild members end up facing each other in the spar, one players' guild tag is automatically removed, and then re-added once the spar is over.
  • Guild spars now have a focus button.

Bug Fixes:
  • Players who "pause" and lock their iDevices now distribute spar rating.
  • Guild houses no longer distribute spar rating.
  • Horses and transforms are automatically unset upon entering a spar.
  • Spar score display now reflects accurate totals.
  • The spar bomb no longer hurts players.

Enjoy the new age of competitive sparring on Classic!

Winter 01-24-2012 10:26 PM

The update I was waiting for! Excellent job to fp4 for devoting so much time and effort to fix things like this for us. Many thanks!

Gambit Drakul 01-24-2012 10:30 PM

nice

LiA 01-24-2012 10:35 PM

Biggest update this year :) Thanks Rufus & FP4 & staff!

Cigam 01-24-2012 10:43 PM

Nice update! Fantastic job staff! Now if i could only get better at sparring...

Dylan 01-24-2012 10:49 PM

Great update, thx

Virus 01-24-2012 10:54 PM

I was wondering what happened to Master Li's dojo... :P

Love the update. Hopefully I can learn how to spar without sucking. xD

Aran 01-24-2012 11:04 PM

Love the new update, thank you to all staff who helped improve sparring!

Just an idea to improve spar even more: when a player has a certain amount of lag (like 150ms or more) they should be atomatically kicked from the spar.

MattKan 01-24-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Posted by LiA05 (Post 61006)
Biggest update this year :) Thanks Rufus & FP4 & staff!

Don't thank the staff as I doubt they did anything.

Godzilla 01-24-2012 11:17 PM

this is great for me. it really does suck sparring, and doing okay, then someone else comes in and destroys you and your record. example? i was having a nice winning streak, then i sparred nite twice, rufus once, some other US member, and another really good person. i can practice now and get better without my record suffering a lot. great job guys!

Rufus 01-24-2012 11:50 PM

So happy that all boosters are now owned.

Praefection 01-25-2012 12:13 AM

I like the update! there should be an automatic hat awarded when a person reaches a certain winstreak, like 20 wins, or 30 wins. because the most i have seen was 10, and i have gotten 5 and im decent. this would motivate people to get better to obtain that winstreak. Especially because there is no 6k hat.

Talon 01-25-2012 12:30 AM

Step 1. Attempt to get good at sparring.
Step 2. Still get destroyed by US.
Step 3. Go back to Graalians.com

Damn.

Godzilla 01-25-2012 12:48 AM

Quote:

Posted by Praefection (Post 61048)
I like the update! there should be an automatic hat awarded when a person reaches a certain winstreak, like 20 wins, or 30 wins. because the most i have seen was 10, and i have gotten 5 and im decent. this would motivate people to get better to obtain that winstreak. Especially because there is no 6k hat.

no. no hat rewards. people shouldnt do something just to get a hat.

MrSimons 01-25-2012 01:00 AM

YA!!! I LOVE ALL THE STAFF WHO WORKED ON THIS UPDAATE!!! <3

BlaZe 01-25-2012 01:26 AM

Amazing! Best update this year, I was waiting for this. Thank you fp4, rufus and others!

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 61041)
So happy that all boosters are now owned.

I know right! :D

Brima_b 01-25-2012 01:27 AM

I don't believe that would be fair (sine that ms is considered low) and personally thats really low. However I believe if an anti lag system is adde it should be players with a ms considered high by the server

Rufus 01-25-2012 01:31 AM

Man, I've been dying for someone to post how they think it's unfair that _______ aka they can no longer boost. I've been prepared for the fight all day wtf!!! :(

Talon 01-25-2012 01:41 AM

Quote:

Posted by Praefection (Post 61048)
I like the update! there should be an automatic hat awarded when a person reaches a certain winstreak, like 20 wins, or 30 wins. because the most i have seen was 10, and i have gotten 5 and im decent. this would motivate people to get better to obtain that winstreak. Especially because there is no 6k hat.

I ended Rashard's streak at 23 ;o

But yeah, winstreaks should eventually become hats. Nice idea.

fp4 01-25-2012 01:43 AM

Quote:

Posted by Praefection (Post 61048)
I like the update! there should be an automatic hat awarded when a person reaches a certain winstreak, like 20 wins, or 30 wins.

If Staff ever create a Trophy/Achievement system. I'm sure that'll be one of them.

Xavier 01-25-2012 01:45 AM

This has I be the best update in months.

To everyone who worked hard on this update, THANK YOU.

Also people can't double queue anymore :-)

Cigam 01-25-2012 02:04 AM

Quote:

Posted by Agony (Post 61097)
I ended Rashard's streak at 23 ;o

I saw that xD im like oh em gee! And then you "served" me :p

Talon 01-25-2012 02:06 AM

Quote:

Posted by Cigam (Post 61108)
I saw that xD im like oh em gee! And then you "served" me :p

lol i did?

MattKan 01-25-2012 02:07 AM

Nice job.

Thank you Fp4 to dedicating your time to creating this update.

Godzilla 01-25-2012 02:22 AM

this updates stupid. i wanna boost. its not fair to people who want to get their records up without actually getting good at sparring.

Notorious# 01-25-2012 02:23 AM

Now Duke has no chance.

MattKan 01-25-2012 02:24 AM

Quote:

Posted by Godzilla (Post 61115)
this updates stupid. i wanna boost. its not fair to people who want to get their records up without actually getting good at sparring.

Meet me in the top right spar room at 3 AM.

MrSimons 01-25-2012 02:33 AM

Quote:

Posted by MattKan (Post 61118)
Meet me in the top right spar room at 3 AM.

-Gets Popcorn-

Cigam 01-25-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Posted by Agony (Post 61111)
lol i did?

Ya, i went after you ended rashard's streak :o

Godzilla 01-25-2012 03:00 AM

Quote:

Posted by MattKan (Post 61118)
Meet me in the top right spar room at 3 AM.

We gonna boost?

Pazx 01-25-2012 07:46 AM

Awesome update, but how does this stop boosting?

And I'll kinda miss sparring at Angel Clan.

YOU TOOK AWAY ANGEL CLAN. THIS UPDATE SUCKS >:O

Rufus 01-25-2012 10:08 AM

Quote:

Posted by Pazx (Post 61187)
Awesome update, but how does this stop boosting?

Quote:

Posted by fp4 (Post 60997)
  • The formula that determines spar rating has been changed to reflect active skill. Spar ratings have been reset in order to accommodate for this. Spar wins and losses will not be reset.
  • Brand new players can no longer participate in sparring at SuperNick's Spar Arena until they have experience on the server. New players will still be able to spar in the practice spar arenas.

Players can no longer reset their spar rating through transferring a noob account to themselves, spar a few times, and end up at the top of the list. They can no longer gain a few points and only spar once to keep their rank at the top.

In addition to this, nobody can use noob accounts to spar on as alternatives to protect their statistics on their main accounts as you need experience before you can spar. This also prevents players from changing their UDID's, sparring, and merging their statistics through VIP if their wins are good enough for them.

Quote:

Posted by fp4 (Post 60997)
  • Competitive sparring is limited to SuperNick's Spar Arena in Graal City. All other spar arenas can be used for practice and no longer affect wins, losses or spar rating.
  • Guild houses no longer distribute spar rating.

Players can't go into another room and lame spar wins, or their guildhouse to lame spar points. The scope of "competitive sparring" is all in one place, so it is easier for both the staff and the players to identify someone who is doing something illegitimate.

Quote:

Posted by fp4 (Post 60997)
  • Players who "pause" and lock their iDevices now distribute spar rating.

Players who pause to keep their spar rating untouched when they're losing aren't able to anymore.

TAKACHI 01-25-2012 11:03 AM

great update just what i wanted, stupid bomb hurting me :)

Pazx 01-25-2012 01:21 PM

How does the game judge when a new player has enough experiance to enter the competitive spar?

callimuc 01-25-2012 02:40 PM

Seems to be a very nice update. Will check it later on though

Quote:

Posted by fp4 (Post 60997)
  • Map has been disabled in all spars.

What do you exactly mean? Or is it just a repeated part of the point that itīs limited to SuperNickīs?

Quote:

Posted by Agony (Post 61097)
But yeah, winstreaks should eventually become hats.

No, there should be a scoreboard in my oppinion.

Pazx 01-25-2012 02:48 PM

@Cal... It means you can't use the map in a spar arena. I thought that was pretty obvious.

callimuc 01-25-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Posted by Pazx (Post 61254)
@Cal... It means you can't use the map in a spar arena. I thought that was pretty obvious.

Ah lol. Seems useless to me and I thought it was disabled anyway so I didnīt think of that. Also I just have been online randomly in the last month.

Kain 01-25-2012 02:52 PM

Awsome Update. I love the one with the win streak.
Why not add the Spar Hats to the battle arena or this Dojo, when the chance of boosting is minor now.

Rufus 01-25-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Posted by Pazx (Post 61236)
How does the game judge when a new player has enough experiance to enter the competitive spar?

Telling people how it works would remove its purpose lol. It just does.

Juggs 01-25-2012 03:58 PM

un que!
now we need a 8k plus spar room get this moving faster.
Update is bloody brilliant

Crono 01-25-2012 04:19 PM

gj fp + ruf.

Thallen 01-25-2012 04:58 PM

Might come back and beat you all sometime soon.

Edit: Nevermind actually, my PC Graal ban (for something I never even did, no idea) seems to have also been extended to Facebook Graal.
???

Crono 01-25-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 61285)
Might come back and beat you all sometime soon.

Edit: Nevermind actually, my PC Graal ban (for something I never even did, no idea) seems to have also been extended to Facebook Graal.
???

:]

qes 01-25-2012 07:23 PM

tbh this update is everything i wanted for spar :0,now all i want is a tag team room.lol thanks !

Skyzer 01-26-2012 03:33 AM

So no more Glicko for spar ratings?

fp4 01-26-2012 04:02 AM

Quote:

Posted by Skyzer (Post 61544)
So no more Glicko for spar ratings?

It still uses Glicko, it always has. It just uses the rating deviation in the rank calculation, it also properly enforces a minimum rating deviation so people who win a couple spars don't appear on the #1 spot right away.

Skyzer 01-26-2012 04:34 AM

Ah.

Rexx 01-26-2012 05:04 AM

Quote:

Posted by callimuc (Post 61257)
Ah lol. Seems useless to me and I thought it was disabled anyway so I didnīt think of that. Also I just have been online randomly in the last month.

cuz peopled used it to lag and not take damage

Clown 01-26-2012 07:17 AM

Aww man, that means no more invincibility hacks :'(

Winter 01-26-2012 04:42 PM

I feel like all these updates are causing a bit more lag than usual lately. Yes, they are great additions. However, I think something needs to be done to either refresh the server to reduce lag, or compress some things on the server to make more space. It really has become a problem lately.


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