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Master Shredder 09-08-2016 05:23 PM

Guild permissions Grant
 
As of the current guild permission system only the leader can grant permissions. There should be an option for the leader to give a permission to certain players that allow them to grant permissions to others. This would make it easier to manage the guild.

And as well add that a player with kick permissions cannot be kicked by another player with kick permissions

Droid 09-08-2016 05:25 PM

This is an online game. I ultimately wouldn't trust a random person with 99% control of my guild.

Shmegg 09-08-2016 05:58 PM

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Posted by Droid (Post 731903)
This is an online game. I ultimately wouldn't trust a random person with 99% control of my guild.

then don't grant them the right to have guild powers...

Master Shredder 09-08-2016 06:26 PM

So what, you could still use this maybe for ur 2nd account incase ur 1st one gets banned the guild is still functional etc. besides youd be able to grant which permission is grantable

Droid 09-08-2016 06:58 PM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 731905)
then don't grant them the right to have guild powers...

Which is why my personal opinion is that this isn't needed in game and would cause too much hassle. As if admins don't get enough stick already!

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 731909)
So what, you could still use this maybe for ur 2nd account incase ur 1st one gets banned the guild is still functional etc. besides youd be able to grant which permission is grantable

Evading ban is a bannable offence and can leads to a more lengthy - and quite possibly a permanent - IP ban. If this is the only reason you want this in game then it won't be implemented because the only benefit you've listed is to help you cheat the game when you've already been punished.

Master Shredder 09-08-2016 07:31 PM

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Posted by Droid (Post 731910)
Which is why my personal opinion is that this isn't needed in game and would cause too much hassle. As if admins don't get enough stick already!



Evading ban is a bannable offence and can leads to a more lengthy - and quite possibly a permanent - IP ban. If this is the only reason you want this in game then it won't be implemented because the only benefit you've listed is to help you cheat the game when you've already been punished.

Its a suggestion. Anyway Immunity to being kicked from having the kick permission would avoid everyone being kicked

4-Lom 09-08-2016 08:16 PM

Only... if everyone had powers?

The way I understand this is more "I want some one else to run my guild to 1k hours without me doing anything."

Let the new system surface. Then revisit the kick concepts.

Saber Alumba 09-08-2016 08:25 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 731909)
So what, you could still use this maybe for ur 2nd account incase ur 1st one gets banned the guild is still functional etc. besides youd be able to grant which permission is grantable

You've been posting a bunch of stupid **** lately , this has to be one of the worse ones so far tough...

Anyways ... I don't think this would even be useful since guilds are heading towards a more loyal system base .

Droid 09-08-2016 08:58 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 731916)
You've been posting a bunch of stupid **** lately , this has to be one of the worse ones so far tough...

Anyways ... I don't think this would even be useful since guilds are heading towards a more loyal system base .

Agreed. Please, if you are going to post an idea, consider its benefits and negatives. Develop your ideas beyond "Add Castle Back" ... Starting a thread with nothing more than a complex sentence means the answers you are going to get should require no more thought than the time it took you to write the title.

If you have an idea, develop it properly to make it something worth considering. Like Saber said, guilds and guild management are in an "inbetween stage" right now, so give it some time before we revisit this. Hopefully you'll be able to keep an idea running for more than 24hrs next time, right?

fp4 09-08-2016 09:30 PM

The permissions system is revamped in the unreleased/updated guild system and allows for much greater control and delegation.

qes 09-08-2016 09:39 PM

so like besides fp4 and dusty what dev staff are actively working on the server. like a few thousand people actively play a game that seems to be mainly fixed/updated by 3-4 people

Droid 09-08-2016 09:58 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 731921)
The permissions system is revamped in the unreleased/updated guild system and allows for much greater control and delegation.

Sounds great :D

Weeno 09-08-2016 10:17 PM

Honestly I would kinda expect admins to add this and have the "your fault for giving him permission" thing

fp4 09-08-2016 10:45 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 731925)
Honestly I would kinda expect admins to add this and have the "your fault for giving him permission" thing

Well it's not just permissions but ranks factor in too. For instance if you have the permission to remove someone that really only gives you the permission to remove anyone below your current rank.

TeK 09-09-2016 12:24 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 731930)
Well it's not just permissions but ranks factor in too. For instance if you have the permission to remove someone that really only gives you the permission to remove anyone below your current rank.

Real ranks? Sick.

fp4 09-09-2016 12:35 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 731946)
Real ranks? Sick.

Yes.

Thallen 09-09-2016 01:06 AM

Let's just be real for a second and say that you're suggesting this so that it's easier for guilds to make temporary/noob recruits, which won't be something that any smart guild is going to do when the changes happen

So while this is ultimately a good thing, it isn't going to be functional in the way that you probably want it to be

Winter 09-09-2016 02:41 AM

Abolishing the idea entirely is going to be difficult no matter what I think, and I don't think this would be put in place without another factor that limits/restricts those temporary recruits to simply abuse the guild size limit. But the idea is community-born, developed and evolved. I don't think it will be going away very quickly regardless.

twilit 09-09-2016 03:20 AM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 731921)
The permissions system is revamped in the unreleased/updated guild system and allows for much greater control and delegation.

:love:

Khai 09-09-2016 03:28 AM

i like the idea

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 731916)
You've been posting a bunch of stupid **** lately , this has to be one of the worse ones so far tough...

Anyways ... I don't think this would even be useful since guilds are heading towards a more loyal system base .

i dont see whats so stupid about it

Master Shredder 09-09-2016 02:52 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 731916)
You've been posting a bunch of stupid **** lately , this has to be one of the worse ones so far tough...

Anyways ... I don't think this would even be useful since guilds are heading towards a more loyal system base .

Im aware of that and i don't really care lol.

Saber Alumba 09-10-2016 11:54 AM

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Posted by ViyGeek (Post 731966)
i like the idea



i dont see whats so stupid about it

He made a point that is based on playing while ban evading as if it's a positive addition to the game , if your banned your banned for a reason , you'd not supposed to be playing in the first place.

Khai 09-10-2016 06:44 PM

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Posted by Saber Alumba (Post 732124)
He made a point that is based on playing while ban evading as if it's a positive addition to the game , if your banned your banned for a reason , you'd not supposed to be playing in the first place.

honestly who cares. if youre banned then your less likely to do it again. if u do do it again then boom theyre banned again

Sardon 09-11-2016 02:21 AM

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Posted by Droid (Post 731910)
Which is why my personal opinion is that this isn't needed in game and would cause too much hassle. As if admins don't get enough stick already!



Evading ban is a bannable offence and can leads to a more lengthy - and quite possibly a permanent - IP ban. If this is the only reason you want this in game then it won't be implemented because the only benefit you've listed is to help you cheat the game when you've already been punished.

too bad hes just gonna vpn.

qes 09-11-2016 08:15 PM

lmfao its funny how mob mentality made fun of this guys idea meanwhile leaders should be able to give players the power to give other people powers. I owned a semi active guild from 2010-2015 and it managed to keep a few ORIGINAL members. i would give those guys the power to give people power. some of them cared more about the guild than i did, if i had that power maybe my guild wouldn't be dead. they would have had an easier time helping me run the guild while I'm offline

Saber Alumba 09-11-2016 11:28 PM

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Posted by ViyGeek (Post 732169)
honestly who cares. if youre banned then your less likely to do it again. if u do do it again then boom theyre banned again

That's not how the system works , the system there is for a reason.

Thallen 09-12-2016 09:25 PM

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Posted by qes (Post 732318)
i would give those guys the power to give people power. some of them cared more about the guild than i did, if i had that power maybe my guild wouldn't be dead.

why didn't you just give them leadership
in the current iteration of guilds, it isn't hard at all to keep your guild functional with the current set of permissions

I've went inactive for weeks–months at a time and Alumni did fine with David, Vlad, Dante, Sarah, and Shaheen having powers

Master Shredder 09-13-2016 03:46 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 731948)
Let's just be real for a second and say that you're suggesting this so that it's easier for guilds to make temporary/noob recruits, which won't be something that any smart guild is going to do when the changes happen

So while this is ultimately a good thing, it isn't going to be functional in the way that you probably want it to be


doesn't matter

qes 09-13-2016 03:56 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 732593)
why didn't you just give them leadership
in the current iteration of guilds, it isn't hard at all to keep your guild functional with the current set of permissions

I've went inactive for weeks–months at a time and Alumni did fine with David, Vlad, Dante, Sarah, and Shaheen having powers

I did, tucker6, bobbyMamba, meth, and Guizmo, all lead DoT when me Chai T and Pikahika couldn't. Most of the time PikaHika was leader. But I would have like 10 people who i can 100% trust and if i could, i would give them ALL the power to give people powers. more stuff would get done if we have multiple leaders, because i was never 100% active enough to do it on my own.
it wasn't really hard to run the guild without this power. but in my opinion, it would have made my job easier.


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