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Darkk 12-08-2016 02:57 PM

2016 spar & gspar rankings
 
The rankings are based off solo spar (pts per win, activity & player opinions) and guild spar performance (particularly GST) from throughout 2016. For players who strictly spar or gs respectively, this has been accounted for.


Tier 1: Thallen, Sarah & David.

T2: Brett, Dante, Abood, Jack69, Alexx, Skull & Aguzo.

T3: Shaheen, Kevin91, Zid, Noss, Eko, Aserus, Shiden, Dark, John, Kosiris, Kicko, Silver, Austin Koga, Brandon, the other Jack & Primtime.

T4: Poodie, Mex, Mikva, Memo, Tucker, Exalt, Dae, Haze, Sugar, Majin, Jack Sparrow, Demrow, Pibe, Chun, Sw@nk, Male, Tykian, Blaze, Fulgore, James205, Shadz, Deus, Saber Alumba, Dan/Luna, Fro, Jose, Hmong, Zeross & Mish

T5: Yami, Qes, Cally, Phural, Contego, Yui, TP, Crono, TomTheTurkey, Toni, Mshaks, Sean, Tidus, Kosma, Danny, Titi, Alex</3, Bradd, Fortiko, Jamie, Commando, Zetetic, Yuki, Xanji, Inco, Pip Daddy, Raege, Sophie, Surge, Denny, RDG, Abel, Blade, Mac, Comyt, Vlad R, Scarchaotic, Charles Flames, Nell, Dolores, Matsugen, Adi, Carly, Chernovil, Rusty, Snow, Ant & Kawu.

T6: Yousx, Thade, Doz ,Ruby, Nayo, Tony, Spoon, Rokar, Kobe easter, Super, Phhatred, Skylar, Santi, De Ale Fanny, Kite, Katrina, Vierze, Red, Spadz, Callum, Crimewatcher, Boots, Relic, Marc, zKilla, Luti, Rebels, Catalyst, Natsuna, Ghadia, Jake, Leaf, Blivian, Kuz, Kaios, Alpha, ALbie, Sin, Striken, Aiden, Melissa, Tek, Ventus, Bobby, Venus, Strum, Droon, Arima, Alex83, PAddie, Rimaz, Kalai, Toich, Shinjin Dia, Ariona, Spodey, Belle, Sour, Nattie, Tnehcu, Bananer, Volkan, Rex, Jimbo, Raj, Livid, L2n, Phater, Jason, COlin, Max, Flare, Tenzin, Convict, Korean Winter, Ravage Primel, Excite, Paz Primel, Raeven & ....


Note: Tiers 1-4 are ranked in order. After that its random. Tier 6 is the average sparrer, anything above that is an above average sparrer and below is a below average sparrer.
The list has been created by Hmong, Kicko, Raege, Rusty and myself. The ranking was determined collectively, however it's predominantly my opinion. Additionally, I asked for a handful of opinions on the top 25, the majority agreed, especially after I explained it. Took 10-15 mins thanks to them.

Apologies if you were missed.

MikvaGraal 12-08-2016 03:41 PM

Decent list few I disagree with 8/10.List made by kicko dark n sideroomers what more could you expect.

Tidus 12-08-2016 03:53 PM

The rankings are based off...(player opinions.)


Tier 1: Sarah

Darkk 12-08-2016 03:57 PM

Somewhat similar to Thallen's list now that I look over it. Seems accurate

MikvaGraal 12-08-2016 04:09 PM

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Posted by Tidus (Post 746650)
The rankings are based off...(player opinions.)

T3 is a joke honestly tho, not sure how much Guild sparring skills is taking in effect but 1v1 wise pretty awful

Sig. 12-08-2016 04:10 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 746651)
Somewhat similar to Thallen's list now that I look over it. Seems accurate

I'm kind of surprised that you didn't mention yourself in T0.

Darkk 12-08-2016 04:23 PM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 746659)
T3 is a joke honestly tho, not sure how much Guild sparring skills is taking in effect but 1v1 wise pretty awful

Who in tier 4 is better tho?

Incognito 12-08-2016 04:28 PM

agre with mikva this list is even worse than thallens

Darkk 12-08-2016 04:33 PM

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Posted by Incognito (Post 746667)
agre with mikva this list is even worse than thallens

Probs butt hurt that you are ranked where you are. T5 is generous for you imo

P1 12-08-2016 05:50 PM

List is complete bs. Dark should definitely be Tier 1 and literally everyone else should be Tier 6 (at best). Dark is truly a legend of GS with a formidable record of one GST win in four years, no one even comes close to comparing to him.

Also, I think the idea of combining two vastly different aspects of the game into one list is genius. I would next like to see you use your special ability to make a combined baddie kills and GS ranking or sparring and PKs rankings. Your list is truly revolutionary and I’m amazed no one has thought of making a list of two different aspects of the game into a single ranking before.

I’m considering taking your concept and making a rankings list of my favourite football players and MMA fighters, because as you have proven comparing two different things is easily possible now.

Thallen 12-08-2016 06:18 PM

it's tough to rank players based on both singles and GS combined but I agree with about 95% of the list

TeK 12-08-2016 06:41 PM

Seems alright but some of the lower tiers look like they have pretty big skill gaps between some players in the same tier

Incognito 12-08-2016 06:51 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 746668)
Probs butt hurt that you are ranked where you are. T5 is generous for you imo

I don't care where I'm placed here lol but from T2-T6 there are clear people id switch like 1 or 2 tiers even, considering that you're apparently factoring "activity and pts per spar" or whatever lol

eko 12-08-2016 07:24 PM

Looks like a pretty ****ty list considering what the rankings are based off.

Tier 1 seems correct

Tier 2 doesn’t make any sense – Brett is not even good at gs, neither is 6jack9. Pretty sure their activity isn’t even that great either so just being good at single spars wouldn’t boost them up that high on the list.

Tier 3 is pretty **** too, Kevin doesn’t even spar and can’t be judged for gs. I shouldn’t even be in tier 3 (should be lower) as I haven’t even single sparred actively for over 2 years. You shouldn’t even be listed in the same tier as me as the same thing happened last time and I showed you why I’m at least a whole tier above you (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgQkBMYucg). Aserus shouldn’t be there either, when was the last time he single sparred or actively performed very well in GST? Zideruic
should be higher, great performance every GST and is good at single spars.

Tier 4 is basically the same as above. Mikva shouldn’t even be there – guy doesn’t spar or gs at all and is a complete joke. Challenged ruke to series, claimed that if ruke beats him 3-0 he will quit graal.. guess what happened – he didn’t quit lol. Dae should be in the same tier as me as he’s basically in the same boat (hasn’t single sparred in forever and has done the same as me or better in gsts).

Tier 5 – Comyt? If you are listing inactive players too then how are you 2 tiers above him?

Kosma 12-08-2016 07:30 PM

People frothin' at the mouth! Darkk you genius

Red 12-08-2016 07:49 PM

Learnt pretty quickly not to get triggered by these lists (thanks to darks last shot at this)
Tier1 is ok
Tier 5 shouldn't include crono, Abel or qes (inactive)
You yourself don't rank that high imho, gs yeah I agree, singles you're ******ed if you think so.

You also let someone like raege help you. (who has some sort of issue with almost anyone who says he needs to fix his coconut grade wifi)

Zid should also be way higher

(Just quick replying with who I think should be higher/lower at this point)

James and poodie higher on the list

Deus and shadz higher

Phural and raeage tier 5

Pip and tego higher

6jack9 lower (dude barely spars)
Me higher (don't care if dark thinks I'm being egotistical just my opinion)

Prime time higher

Zeross (although inactive And idek if you included him, should be tier3)

Tykian should be around tier 3 or even 2 (dude is a monster)

Kicko should be tier 4

Brandon lower

Kevin lower but still tier3 (if we were speaking of singles specifically I'd rate place him tier2)

Silver lower

MikvaGraal 12-08-2016 07:55 PM

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Posted by eko (Post 746730)
ruke beats him 3-0 he will quit graal.. guess what happen he didn't quit

Woah don't get it twisted Online dating sideroomer haha, I said if he even managed to beat me once id quit(why would I quitover over this clown) and he amazingly got a lucky tie win at 0.5.
Eko correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you the guy that asked a graal girl(Lol) too show her feet on cam wtf weird af.Eko litterly also type of kid to lose to me so many times in streak room that he would go on an alt too preserve his fake record and still continue too lose lMfaO

eko 12-08-2016 08:08 PM

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 746733)
Woah don't get it twisted Online dating sideroomer haha, I said if he even managed to beat me once id quit(why would I quitover over this clown) and he amazingly got a lucky tie win at 0.5.

Haha so funny, mentioned you because i knew you have some obsession with me. Good excuse but it doesn't change the fact you lost after talking so much ****. Don't think there was much luck there since you just aren't good..

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 746733)
Eko correct me if I'm wrong but aren't you the guy that asked a graal girl(Lol) too show her feet on cam wtf weird af.

I'll correct you, that didn't happen because i've never cam'd with a girl other than jen??? But that's a good one. It must be weird af, the most common fetish in the world. Practically the same as asking a girl to show anything else? Are you sure you aren't gay by any chance if the idea of a girl showing something on cam is weird to you?

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Posted by MikvaGraal (Post 746733)
Eko litterly also type of kid to lose to me so many times in streak room that he would go on an alt too preserve his fake record and still continue too lose lMfaO

Yes lose to you so many times, but every time i walk in you PM me the same message "wow when did you stop losing to me?" because you just can't beat me :thinking:

Go on an alt to "preserve" my record? Yes, it's very good comparing how i sparred 2 years ago when i was active to now when i don't spar at all but still manage to beat you.

But speaking of me being that type of guy, lets look at what type of guy you are:
- Kisses up to comyt like some sort of dog that chases it's owner asking trying to be noticed
- Creates like 5+ accounts to attempt to have a somewhat decent spar record so he can act relevant in the spar community
- Literally completely irrelevant sparrer that hasn't achieved anything (btw when are you gonna enter GST and show off those sick spar skills?)

P1 12-08-2016 08:10 PM

@Mikva
Nice job dodging all the points fair points eko made about you and turning it into a personal attack, but I suppose that’s all you can do when you don’t have the mental capacity to formulate an actual response. You’ve literally only done well once in GST (iDev at that) and that was because Call felt sorry for you so he dragged your dead weight to 3rd place, pretty sure you did the worst out of anyone on that team too.

James205 12-08-2016 08:19 PM

I don't agree with my position in this list but all these lists are stupid anyway.

RPS>>>>Sparring/GS

(on a serious not mixing both GS and Spar 1v1 is dumb)

RPS 4 LYFE

Darkk 12-08-2016 08:29 PM

@Eko, that series was what? 6 months ago. Last season after being offline for 2 months I logged on and went close to 5:1 mix room only around 400-500 wins. In the last two days I'm 3-5 vs Thallen and 6-1 vs Dante. I've also had two solid GST's since our series. Considering you don't solo spar, and have had solid GST performances, I believe we are in the same tier.

Additionally, you've won one GST without Thallen, don't know why you've placed yourself on some high horse. Its an opinion, chill

Void 12-08-2016 08:35 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 746743)
@Eko, that series was what? 6 months ago. Last season after being offline for 2 months I logged on and went close to 5:1 mix room only around 400-500 wins. In the last two days I'm 3-5 vs Thallen and 6-1 vs Dante. I've also had two solid GST's since our series. Considering you don't solo spar, and have had solid GST performances, I believe we are in the same tier.

Additionally, you've won one GST without Thallen, don't know why you've placed yourself on some high horse. Its an opinion, chill

funny how some players get discredited skillwise, for winning GSTs with thallen on their side (despite them performing solid and well) and others get carried hard by him in GST but suddenly receive a lot of praise

Darkk 12-08-2016 08:36 PM

@Red, some of the people you mentioned are good solo sparrers, but aren't impressive gsers. Like Prime, solid solo sparrer, but that clouds the fact that he's bad at gs and doesn't perform in gst's. Zeross should be included because its for 2016. Probs should have an inactive list.

First time I really sparred without my screen lag for a while was before the gst, went near 5:1, how am I bad at solo sparring exaclty lol

eko 12-08-2016 08:36 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 746743)
@Eko, that series was what? 6 months ago. Last season after being offline for 2 months I logged on and went close to 5:1 mix room only around 400-500 wins. In the last two days I'm 3-5 vs Thallen and 6-1 vs Dante. I've also had two solid GST's since our series. Considering you don't solo spar, and have had solid GST performances, I believe we are in the same tier.

Additionally, you've won one GST without Thallen, don't know why you've placed yourself on some high horse. Its an opinion, chill

Does it matter? You always claim these amazing scores, but when it comes to a serious spar when both people are trying you aren't good. Good job on the GST, not saying you are awful at gsing.

Placing myself on a high horse? what? I literally said I should be lowered because I haven't performed that well in the GSTs this year (literally get on a day or 2 before the GST to practice). As for singles, when we had the series you were active, I was inactive and still able to flaw you in one of the spars and come close to it in many others? It would've been an even bigger defeat if i didn't choke some rounds.

Your tier ≠ my tier

Darkk 12-08-2016 08:37 PM

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Posted by Void (Post 746745)
funny how some players get discredited skillwise, for winning GSTs with thallen on their side (despite them performing solid and well) and others get carried hard by him in GST but suddenly receive a lot of praise

Eko is higher than John and Austin because I think he's better, just my opinion. If they are who you're referencing

Fulgore 12-08-2016 08:38 PM

I'd argue I'm higher, especially if tier 4 is in order, but you people need to realize it's an opinion list and chill.

Kicko 12-08-2016 08:42 PM

if T6 was ranked in order i'd have red dead last tbh

Darkk 12-08-2016 08:45 PM


This was my screen when we had that series @Eko, congrats you won lol?

eko 12-08-2016 08:48 PM

lmfao, not sure if that excuse is even serious or just a bait

you even restarted your internet because it must have been hard to believe that after talking **** to someone they turned around and showed you up

and it isn't hard to win against you anyway, the same thing used to happen outside of the series

edit:
btw this was my screen during the spar
http://puu.sh/sIMGU/41487f5454.png
*spoiler* i was sparring with my eyes closed

Linkk 12-08-2016 08:50 PM

Ahh it's me again. I dunno y thees dae n eko clowns r calling out dark. both of em win 1 time without thallen. any1 coulda won those gsts in their place

list is average, like yall put me 2low

Darkk 12-08-2016 08:54 PM

Had a list of 10 people who this thread would trigger. 1 VIS member down, 2 British butt buddies down. Waiting on qes and the other fools who take spar seriously.

eko 12-08-2016 08:57 PM

My intentions when posting first reply:
Trigger dark (of course you'll speak out if someone calls you bad)
Trigger mikva (ez lol)

Darkk 12-08-2016 08:58 PM

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Posted by eko (Post 746730)
Tier 5 – Comyt? If you are listing inactive players too then how are you 2 tiers above him?

He's entered the last 2 GST's and I see him solo sparring occasionally. Last GST, well he broke some record for dying in 2 spars in under 20 seconds. He's appropriately ranked

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Posted by eko (Post 746730)
Looks like a pretty ****ty list considering what the rankings are based off.

Tier 1 seems correct

Tier 2 doesn’t make any sense – Brett is not even good at gs, neither is 6jack9. Pretty sure their activity isn’t even that great either so just being good at single spars wouldn’t boost them up that high on the list.

Tier 3 is pretty **** too, Kevin doesn’t even spar and can’t be judged for gs. I shouldn’t even be in tier 3 (should be lower) as I haven’t even single sparred actively for over 2 years. You shouldn’t even be listed in the same tier as me as the same thing happened last time and I showed you why I’m at least a whole tier above you (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgQkBMYucg). Aserus shouldn’t be there either, when was the last time he single sparred or actively performed very well in GST? Zideruic
should be higher, great performance every GST and is good at single spars.

Tier 4 is basically the same as above. Mikva shouldn’t even be there – guy doesn’t spar or gs at all and is a complete joke. Challenged ruke to series, claimed that if ruke beats him 3-0 he will quit graal.. guess what happened – he didn’t quit lol. Dae should be in the same tier as me as he’s basically in the same boat (hasn’t single sparred in forever and has done the same as me or better in gsts).

Tier 5 – Comyt? If you are listing inactive players too then how are you 2 tiers above him?

Tbh you got triggered, not me. Didn't even read ur rant, probs you complaining

P1 12-08-2016 09:02 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 746759)
Had a list of 10 people who this thread would trigger. 1 VIS member down, 2 British butt buddies down. Waiting on qes and the other fools who take spar seriously.

By the looks of it I would have guessed your intention was to somehow make yourself somehow look like an even bigger ******.

DanteGraal 12-08-2016 09:02 PM

Shaheen is a notable omission from this list, and Yami as well. I'd personally put him on 2nd tier instead of Jack but I'm not exactly sure how active he's been in singles this year.

eko 12-08-2016 09:02 PM

That isn't being triggered, that's me pointing out how ******ed you are lol

I think you writing out your spar history for the last week and instantly replying to anyone that calls you bad is what being triggered is

Also didn't read it but managed to find that little line about you in the middle

Darkk 12-08-2016 09:09 PM

Done replying to online daters, next...?

Alex R 12-08-2016 09:11 PM

So what's it really based on , a lot of inactive sparrers in there , so If activity matters they should be lower , also a lot of people with bad points per spar are in higher tiers than people with a good pts per spar , so I guess gs and gst performances are the main contributer to this. Shoulda just done 2 separate lists and have a tier for inactive people

Darkk 12-08-2016 09:19 PM

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Posted by P1 (Post 746698)
I’m considering taking your concept and making a rankings list of my favourite football players and MMA fighters, because as you have proven comparing two different things is easily possible now.

It's graal not sport, wouldn't expect you of all people to tell the difference anyways. Good ol Dae "the other team (in gst) didn't show sportsmanship" lol. Spar and gspar are similar, no surprise the best 2-3 solo sparrers are the best gsers.
Anyways I lied, I replied to one of them.

P1 12-08-2016 09:43 PM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 746772)
It's graal not sport, wouldn't expect you of all people to tell the difference anyways. Good ol Dae "the other team (in gst) didn't show sportsmanship" lol. Spar and gspar are similar, no surprise the best 2-3 solo sparrers are the best gsers.
Anyways I lied, I replied to one of them.

By the looks of it your special needs teachers haven’t gotten around to teaching you what sarcasm is yet. I have yet to see anyone else stupid enough to think a joint ranking for GS/Spar would be a remotely good idea. You honestly have to be a special kind of ****** to even try and justify such a thing. Numerous people have pointed out the flaws in your rankings but, you probably can’t understand them because your comprehension skills are equivalent to that of a three year old.

Incognito 12-08-2016 09:57 PM

godam it i am so trigered

Thallen 12-08-2016 10:32 PM

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Posted by Incognito (Post 746780)
godam it i am so trigered

just get your VIS pals to pause-boost with a few accounts until they break the streak record with an angry name again (thus getting banned like morons)
that'll show him who's boss

Incognito 12-08-2016 10:38 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 746788)
just get your VIS pals to pause-boost with a few accounts until they break the streak record with an angry name again (thus getting banned like morons)
that'll show him who's boss

?? what happened? what was the angry name?

Linkk 12-08-2016 11:01 PM

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Posted by Kicko (Post 746750)
if T6 was ranked in order i'd have red dead last tbh

ahh i agre tht guy sucks ass at spar

super kurosaki 12-08-2016 11:11 PM

this list inaccurate as f**k where the hell is kaios??? he should be in tier 1??

Ryu/John 12-08-2016 11:22 PM

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Posted by Void (Post 746745)
funny how some players get discredited skillwise, for winning GSTs with thallen on their side (despite them performing solid and well) and others get carried hard by him in GST but suddenly receive a lot of praise

If that's referring to me (since Dark mentioned my name), and because some poster called me out for being carried right after last GST.

I don't believe I was "carried" by Thallen. Thallen is arguably the best mixed GSer in Graal, and it's clear from last GST when he stepped up and put the team on his shoulders vs a strong neidomu lineup. I've done my part in the last two GSTs I've entered 70-54 ratio in Alumni's final GST, and 56-46 ratio last GST. 1.30 and 1.22 ratio, are they spectacular? Not really, but they're solid performances. It isn't a "hard carry."

Zideruic 12-08-2016 11:50 PM

if this combines 1v1 and gs skill then i'd prolly b tier5 or 6 i suck at GS

Sig. 12-09-2016 12:08 AM

Sparring threads are the only reason why I still visit this forum <3

Cxll 12-09-2016 12:11 AM

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Posted by Ryu/John (Post 746798)
If that's referring to me (since Dark mentioned my name), and because some poster called me out for being carried right after last GST.

I don't believe I was "carried" by Thallen. Thallen is arguably the best mixed GSer in Graal, and it's clear from last GST when he stepped up and put the team on his shoulders vs a strong neidomu lineup. I've done my part in the last two GSTs I've entered 70-54 ratio in Alumni's final GST, and 56-46 ratio last GST. 1.30 and 1.22 ratio, are they spectacular? Not really, but they're solid performances. It isn't a "hard carry."

pretty sure the videos say other wise ....... Negative each round stop lying to yourself to make yourself look better then what you actually are.

Red 12-09-2016 12:13 AM

Just a heads up as to how obsessed dark is with being a c*** and trying to create drama. Ask Colin which names tried to register to graalians under his IP when forum registration was re-opened.

Sad how hypocrital and stupid he really is, he will call people out for being so serious about sparring but to be honest he's one of the most self obsessed, egotistical morons to ever actually play graal.


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