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Papyrus 12-11-2016 02:16 AM

Profile Showcase
 
Players generally like to show off their accomplishments in their profile, and having an official way to do that would be a good addition to the game.

http://i.imgur.com/FfPl089.png

For a lot of players, these outlined stats are irrelevant and/or unimportant relative to other achievements and stats that they've gotten over the years. A neat option would be the ability to replace these stats with other metrics and achievements that belong to a player.

There are three lines on a profile that could display quite a few things. Since some players are much more involved in the social aspect of the game compared to the competitive one, they could showcase more socially-relevant things: number of friends, registration date (if that data is available), times a certain emote has been used, number of personal uploads, current location (this will likely involve the re-naming of the levels in Classic, but it would be a neat thing to look on someone's profile and see where they are - if they choose to provide that information), mounts owned, morphs owned, emotes owned, hats owned, distance traveled, quests completed, among many other things.

There are many other metrics and awards that could be showcased on the more competitive player's profile: towers taken (times a player has gotten the final hit to secure a tower), guild spar hits ratio, kills/baddy kills/spar wins today, kills/baddy kills/spar wins this week, kills/baddy kills/spar wins this month, mixed GST victories, idevice GST victories, total GST victories, miscellaneous accomplishments/awards, among other metrics relevant to the competitive aspect of the game.

Obviously some of these metrics are not currently stored by the server, but for most of these I'm sure that capability could be added. Doing this would also be helpful if other competitive aspects of the game are eventually added, as it frees up space on profiles to show that off. I think this could be a relatively easy improvement to make that would be rather exciting for players who want to show something off (or to hide that less-than-stellar spar record!).

Agonee 12-11-2016 02:25 AM

wbu hours spend in Burger Refuge/ RP expierience points???

Raeven 12-11-2016 02:31 AM

Sounds great but too much work

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Posted by Agonee (Post 747283)
wbu hours spend in Burger Refuge/ RP expierience points???

Noods collected as well

Bryan* 12-11-2016 03:47 AM

Keep it simplistic. Want to show your accomplishments? Open your house, display them. Keep profile public.

TD* 12-11-2016 04:11 AM

Perhaps an option to see how many spar wins/losses you have against an individual player. Pks as well.

Darkk 12-11-2016 04:20 AM

Or update mod library (GST records.)

KristenGW 12-11-2016 04:55 AM

Profile Showcase
 
Total bugs caught
Total loot... Looted?
Number of furniture bought

Aguzo 12-11-2016 05:19 AM

I kinda like how in Steam, you have the option to showcase your "rarest" achievements, specific achievements that you find are cool, your came collection, badge collection, etc...

Instead of the traditional Gamerscore.

I know some people would probably showoff their amount of gst wins or event wins.

Maybe how many hats they have collected, or a showcase of their hats.. idk

They can easily setup their house for these things. Would be cool if ToonsLab took the Valve approach though.

4-Lom 12-11-2016 05:42 AM

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Posted by KristenGW (Post 747334)
Total bugs caught
Total loot... Looted?
Number of furniture bought

Maybe total cash spent in game...? Like the value of your profile based on how many gralats you've spent in all areas... hats, uploads, furniture, other items :P

Aguzo 12-11-2016 06:02 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 747371)
Maybe total cash spent in game...? Like the value of your profile based on how many gralats you've spent in all areas... hats, uploads, furniture, other items :P

Idk, that seems like useless data for the server. In steam they have "Games Collected", which is equivalent to that, but not an actual amount of how much you have spent on your games in total.

Only viable things that most of the community would probably care about are (In order)

Favorite Hats Collection (Showcase your favorite hats, could be super rare one's)
Amount of Hats Collected (A link to all their hats = choppier server?)
GST Wins
Event Wins
Favorite Items (morphs, pogos, umbrellas etc)


And even then, the devs could probably just have "favorite hats collection", as the only one, and maybe apply icons, which would make the other "collections" unnecessary.

For example, they could put a below an event hat
The (crossed swords) for gst hats
(a rook) for tower hats

By adding symbols like that, players would be able to make their own cool list, and maybe even have a mix of cool hats they have bought or earned.

"Favorite Items", you could setup anything like your bow collection, morph collection, horses, bombs, umbrellas, pogos, etc, or a mix of whatever items you want to showcase.

http://i.imgur.com/rtZFXPX.png

As for things like "The exact date when your account was created", seems dumb, and probably unlikely that they have that info (no idea). Maybe the amount of years, since you have been identified would be feasible?

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 747302)
Keep it simplistic. Want to show your accomplishments? Open your house, display them. Keep profile public.

Really just this though. Wouldn't want a lot of useless info, and probably make your profile look weird. Steam isn't graal, which is why they can have a lot of categories, without sacrificing other essentials.

4-Lom 12-11-2016 08:04 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 747375)
Idk, that seems like useless data for the server. In steam they have "Games Collected", which is equivalent to that, but not an actual amount of how much you have spent on your games in total.

I find it funny how you make these suggestions and then proceed to crap on others' ideas that may be just as valid. Your opinion is worth exactly as much as everyone else's,man.

TeK 12-11-2016 08:10 AM

He never said his opinion was higher than anyone elses, he just gave it, as one is supposed to do on forums...

4-Lom 12-11-2016 08:22 AM

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Posted by TeK (Post 747427)
He never said his opinion was higher than anyone elses, he just gave it, as one is supposed to do on forums...

By the same logic all of the information he suggested is 'useless data for the server' and I see no reference as to what 'most of the community would like' without a poll or input.

I had expressed something I would like to see, as he was doing, and he dismissed it as irrelevant. Just pointing that out.

TeK 12-11-2016 08:25 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 747429)
By the same logic all of the information he suggested is 'useless data for the server' and I see no reference as to what 'most of the community would like' without a poll or input.

I had expressed something I would like to see, as he was doing, and he dismissed it as irrelevant. Just pointing that out.

It is irrelevant in his opinion, and as for the "most" of the community part, he's just making a harmless assumption.

Aguzo 12-11-2016 08:25 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 747425)
I find it funny how you make these suggestions and then proceed to crap on others' ideas that may be just as valid. Your opinion is worth exactly as much as everyone else's,man.

Relax... You're literally talking about estimating how much an account is worth. It seems pointless when someone can just buy a lot of chairs or whatever. It just feels like waste to have the exact amount of gralats spent for every individual, then have that number showcased on a profile.

I don't think graal is running Quickbooks... I could be wrong though, and like you said... it's my opinion. I never valued myself higher/lower than anyone here.

I'm just thinking about the server, and how something like this could be added in an efficient way. Everyone else stated some pretty solid ideas on what people generally like to showcase, which are probably already tracked.

That's why I said that the devs could sum it up into 1-3 categories, and players can choose what they want to showcase. I'm not a dev though, so I have no idea on how adding an estimate for every account's value (which would be updating everyone's info 24/7) would affect the server.

Areo 12-11-2016 04:55 PM

When I saw this I actually thought you were going to refer to a item to display your profile in your house, similar to a whiteboard(of course you could just use a statue for that).

Either way I like having more options regarding my profile, so whatever system was implemented(Aguzo's, OP's, whichever) would be a win in my book.

4-Lom 12-11-2016 07:17 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 747431)

I don't think graal is running Quickbooks... I could be wrong though, and like you said... it's my opinion. I never valued myself higher/lower than anyone here.

I'm just thinking about the server, and how something like this could be added in an efficient way. Everyone else stated some pretty solid ideas on what people generally like to showcase, which are probably already tracked.

How hard would it be to run the numbers on the values of hats that players have bought, the current value of furniture, current value of uploads, and current number of gralat packs purchased? I'm sure that data is all present already, if not compiled.


I meant no disrespect, but the concept of what one person might find 'interesting' to put in their profile may or may not appeal to another.

Also, on a similar vein of conversation, there was a topic raised suggesting that the gani in the profile be altered... other than run/sword swing, maybe pogo/bounce ball/umbrella/juggle that could be selected from the player's personal selection?

TeK 12-11-2016 07:23 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 747552)
Also, on a similar vein of conversation, there was a topic raised suggesting that the gani in the profile be altered... other than run/sword swing, maybe pogo/bounce ball/umbrella/juggle that could be selected from the player's personal selection?

Now THAT sounds cool!

Colin 12-11-2016 07:27 PM

What about hats, furniture, and items that are no longer sold in the game? I highly doubt those things are stored, it would be a huge waste of resources.

Also, given the nature of Graal, I feel like displaying those sort of statistics would bring new life to bullying and harassment which is already really common on Graal.

Having different ganis in profile would be nice though

Bryan* 12-11-2016 08:31 PM

They should remove AP, Gralats, and possibly Gender on the profile.

4-Lom 12-11-2016 09:02 PM

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Posted by Colin (Post 747555)
What about hats, furniture, and items that are no longer sold in the game? I highly doubt those things are stored, it would be a huge waste of resources.

All of them have a sale price in furniture menu which is half of the original purchase price. It's on file.

TeK 12-11-2016 09:10 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 747564)
They should remove AP, Gralats, and possibly Gender on the profile.

Oh god pls don't remove gender

Bryan* 12-11-2016 09:27 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 747586)
Oh god pls don't remove gender

noobs are either catfishes or identify as some weird **** so needs deletion

Count 12-11-2016 09:40 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 747594)
noobs are either catfishes or identify as some weird **** so needs deletion

uMMm actually my gender identity is very imPorTAnt so do not remove gender just let me type in attack helicopter ok?? kthx

TeK 12-11-2016 09:42 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 747594)
noobs are either catfishes or identify as some weird **** so needs deletion

Sure there's catfishes and those weird people, but I'm pretty sure most people are legitimate about it and I like to know if I'm talking to a male or a female is possible.

Bryan* 12-11-2016 10:17 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 747604)
Sure there's catfishes and those weird people, but I'm pretty sure most people are legitimate about it and I like to know if I'm talking to a male or a female is possible.

They could put like a tiny icon for male or female in the corner somewhere, doesn't need a line of its own

Heeble 12-12-2016 12:33 AM

This could also open up some more seasonal competition options, which gives players more ways to play. Some of these statistics could be P2W, which we all know this server needs.

Player gender is irrelevant, you can't trust it's the correct one that is displayed. It also takes up room where other stats could be displayed.

Raeven 12-12-2016 12:58 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 747555)
What about hats, furniture, and items that are no longer sold in the game? I highly doubt those things are stored, it would be a huge waste of resources.

Also, given the nature of Graal, I feel like displaying those sort of statistics would bring new life to bullying and harassment which is already really common on Graal.

Having different ganis in profile would be nice though

The bullying thing and harassment yes i agree 100% to this

4-Lom 12-12-2016 04:48 AM

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Posted by Count (Post 747601)
uMMm actually my gender identity is very imPorTAnt so do not remove gender just let me type in attack helicopter ok?? kthx

Sex =/= Gender.

Darkk 12-12-2016 04:51 AM

@4lom, stupid idea to show the amount of gralats someone has purchased on their account. People like Striken (already gets bullied daily) would be publicly humiliated. He currently has 1 million gralats, probably spends his entire wage (full time gfx artist for graal) on gralat packs.

4-Lom 12-12-2016 05:17 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 747813)
@4lom, stupid idea to show the amount of gralats someone has purchased on their account. People like Striken (already gets bullied daily) would be publicly humiliated. He currently has 1 million gralats, probably spends his entire wage (full time gfx artist for graal) on gralat packs.

I have more than 20 hat pages and around 2000 furnitures. I'm aware that jealous little people harass others... but they are the minority.

Papyrus 12-12-2016 06:50 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 747555)
Also, given the nature of Graal, I feel like displaying those sort of statistics would bring new life to bullying and harassment which is already really common on Graal.

Honestly, this idea was sort of meant to reduce bullying. People would have the option to hide all stats entirely, or to show off the stats that they're proud of. Since some players are bullied for spar record and that sort of thing, this allows for hiding that.

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 747552)
Also, on a similar vein of conversation, there was a topic raised suggesting that the gani in the profile be altered... other than run/sword swing, maybe pogo/bounce ball/umbrella/juggle that could be selected from the player's personal selection?

Now that's a much better/easier idea that could and should be implemented.

Bryan* 12-12-2016 12:41 PM

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Posted by Papyrus (Post 747837)
Honestly, this idea was sort of meant to reduce bullying. People would have the option to hide all stats entirely, or to show off the stats that they're proud of. Since some players are bullied for spar record and that sort of thing, this allows for hiding that.

Just like the last guy that wanted private stats; no it's not needed. If players have an issue with your stats then you have multiple options to prevent that:

• PM's Set to Friends Only
• Report/Block
• Set Public Chat to Friends/Guild Members Only

Raeven 12-12-2016 12:49 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 747865)
Just like the last guy that wanted private stats; no it's not needed. If players have an issue with your stats then you have multiple options to prevent that:

• PM's Set to Friends Only
• Report/Block
• Set Public Chat to Friends/Guild Members Only

Or simply improve ur stats xd

Thallen 12-12-2016 12:52 PM

I remember you posting this a while ago, I still support it because this is the type of experience that Classic plays best towards. Graal is very casual and simple, and I don't think it needs to be complicated with new gameplay elements. I just feel like they could capitalize on the things we already have and make them a little more intricate and interesting. That's why I've been pushing for the whole guild remake thing a lot, I feel like that will create an entirely new experience without really changing how the game is played.

Rufus expressed interest in some type of achievements system and I really wish Classic had that. Gaming and gaming culture in general has changed a lot in the past 10 years. We're basically robots who value statistics and bragging rights over some deep and immersive gameplay experience now. As in, if you were to simply break up baddy killing into additional statistics that show how many of each baddy type you've killed, you know there would be a bunch of people immediately interested in being "the #1 spider baddy killer" and such.

I can actually recall several players quitting specifically because the all-time leaderboards were removed (although I do see the reasoning behind why that happened). That's proof that people care about that stuff and use them to set goals and make incentive for themselves to play and participate in the actual gameplay elements of Graal rather than just sitting around. An achievement system and a deeper statistics system would do well for iClassic. I don't really have much to say about the bullying thing, I feel like a fair amount of that already goes on. If I tab into my iClassic tab right now, there's probably someone getting laughed at in the BA lobby. It's probably just unavoidable due to the casual/social nature of the game.

Anyway, I think this sort of thing offers an element of replayability that Classic kinda needs. The guild system, achievements, and more repeatable content (specifically repeatable quests for guilds, marriage partners, etc.) are probably at the top of my list of things I wish we had. The last two things that were added to iClassic that fall in line with that thought process were the treasure maps and Crab Chance. I feel like those did a pretty great job of adding long-lasting play value.

Raeven 12-12-2016 12:54 PM

"#1 lizardon killer" sounds cool

Papyrus 12-12-2016 06:15 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 747868)
I remember you posting this a while ago, I still support it because this is the type of experience that Classic plays best towards. Graal is very casual and simple, and I don't think it needs to be complicated with new gameplay elements. I just feel like they could capitalize on the things we already have and make them a little more intricate and interesting. That's why I've been pushing for the whole guild remake thing a lot, I feel like that will create an entirely new experience without really changing how the game is played.

Rufus expressed interest in some type of achievements system and I really wish Classic had that. Gaming and gaming culture in general has changed a lot in the past 10 years. We're basically robots who value statistics and bragging rights over some deep and immersive gameplay experience now. As in, if you were to simply break up baddy killing into additional statistics that show how many of each baddy type you've killed, you know there would be a bunch of people immediately interested in being "the #1 spider baddy killer" and such.

I can actually recall several players quitting specifically because the all-time leaderboards were removed (although I do see the reasoning behind why that happened). That's proof that people care about that stuff and use them to set goals and make incentive for themselves to play and participate in the actual gameplay elements of Graal rather than just sitting around. An achievement system and a deeper statistics system would do well for iClassic. I don't really have much to say about the bullying thing, I feel like a fair amount of that already goes on. If I tab into my iClassic tab right now, there's probably someone getting laughed at in the BA lobby. It's probably just unavoidable due to the casual/social nature of the game.

Anyway, I think this sort of thing offers an element of replayability that Classic kinda needs. The guild system, achievements, and more repeatable content (specifically repeatable quests for guilds, marriage partners, etc.) are probably at the top of my list of things I wish we had. The last two things that were added to iClassic that fall in line with that thought process were the treasure maps and Crab Chance. I feel like those did a pretty great job of adding long-lasting play value.

Yeah, every now and then I post some sort of suggestion along these lines in hope that it gets some traction, being that outside of the GST, the competitive scene is so stale. The last time I suggested achievements, I spoke to Rufus and he said something along the lines of it not being worth it to allocate so many resources to such a small part of the community (the competitive playerbase), so I tried to think of something that might make the game a little more exciting and fun to play for everyone. You're right about Graal not necessarily needing new gameplay elements, but capitalizing on the ones that they have and giving them more significance would probably be beneficial to the community. I'm not sure if the guild system revamp is still in the works because I haven't been around for quite some time, but hopefully it comes with something along these lines.

EP 12-13-2016 10:50 AM

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Posted by TD* (Post 747306)
Perhaps an option to see how many spar wins/losses you have against an individual player. Pks as well.

I like the win/loss ratio against an individual i sounds great for the ego


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