Why.

Why.

Not kidding, Why.

They have Destiny

because there is no reason to. They all did it for hats,and with the removal of them there is no point for them. People have stopped doing it for respect.

When the New Guild System™ gets involved it'll be right back.

Pretty sure that guild just got Destiny for a minute or so. Don't really see the point of the thread, but I still see dedicated guilds towering daily with no rewards like Beg Of Mercy's 528th guild.

Who is towering? What is his or her "Dead?"

Why not? If the experienced ppl are not towering, then the un-experienced are ones that will be taking towers.
And no they didnt take it for one minute i reckon, bc there is no reason that stops them from holding it longer since Its rare to see guilds fighting over a tower.
When the NGS is out, towering will be as life as before.

I still tower on my old guild so it doesn't get deleted

If that's the real Saul he has 210k kills on his main so he has experience.

Who cares then get experience and take it from them

I held destiny for hours by my self during the day destiny is one tower that is easy throughout the day / night if you are holding it

Not many people come to try and take only once inawhile consisant pkers and depending on the guild sometimes thats hard for the people who are too lazy and gotten use to being lazy / afk

lul why would you say towering is dead when swamp gets taken constantly (while im on?)

York Town/York Tower
 

Why is York even a place now? After not announcing York tower removal for people who use to tower at York was a big wake up call and a big disappointment to York town itself. Now there is nothing to do in York town besides find maps even if that. Admins removed the quest from Pyrat Bay in York as well,now the only things in York is Revolution,the super over priced mounts,and the small amount of hats.I think it would be best for the tower to be put back into the game or it is as useless as Snow Town.By putting it back into the game would make the PKers happier again.

I hope someone higher up will see this post from a player who has been playing for over 6 years and enjoys towering.

-Note i couldn't make a post for some reason this is why i posted on this.-

do you not pay attention? The bounty quest gives you pyrats sometimes and pyrat bay is the only place where pyrats spawn. You literally gave reasons in your post why the town should stay. So much for those 6 years ey?

Towering is dead because there is no incentive anymore/impossible to get to that certain incentive

Pretty much what everyone is saying in this thread

You're missing the point,that's such a small part of the game. Smh Half the people that are on graal buy gralats which means no point for the bounties,there's no reason for two stables, and they can move rev. The town is useless without a tower just like snow town.

Clearly you're missing my point, and no need for you to insult me with you snobby remarks.

NGS is dead too :D

N0NS3NS3, as you said York Town has a hatshop, stables for 2Ps, Revolution, Horse Race, Summer Place to farm, Pyrats, big looting place, parts of the mask quest in it and overall is just a cool little place.

Exactly. Snowtown has less in it but the most important are the capsule machines that are there and is a pretty cool little place also.

clearly you are missing the point, ethacon is right
you do not need a tower to make a town useful
york town has a hat shop, horse stable, horse races, summer house for farming, bounty for pyrats, and more

That doesn't change the fact that Yorktown was THE best tower ever

Explosions, multiple routes to the flag, pirates, ammunition, chickens... york fort had it all.

Your logic doesn't make sense. You claim that half of the playerbase purchases gralat packs, therefore the bounty quest is useless. I don't think I need to explain why that doesn't make sense.

Also, it seems to me like you're pretty much saying that a town is useless if it doesn't have a tower. I'm sure you remember North Graal Town. That place didn't have a tower, yet I'd still see people hanging out there and doing things, even if Revolution was closed. Graal City doesn't have a tower, nor any sort of shop. I see less people in the Battle Arena nowadays, yet Graal City is still packed. There's never not people running around Balamb or Belle. Those places are doing just fine.

I think a lot of us miss York's tower, but you shouldn't be arguing that York should cease to exist since it doesn't have the tower. You should try to form points that explain why the tower should be brought back.

Edit: just wanted to say that when I typed this, I didn't read the second page yet

Although York has things still, not too many actually go to York without having to.

For me in Towns with Graal, I'm only interested in NPC text and lore.(always curious!OwO)

I do agree with HG in York Tower should come back (sometime or another), it was the most fun tower, the one I went to the most. It was just so neat.

Now that it is gone, Swamp is my only favorite :(.

York shouldn't go, however I do believe it needs something more interesting than Revolution, or horse races, which both only happen with events.

You guys basically like york tower because yall just spam your swords and still get a kill

In my opinion pinoy delay ruined towering

In my opinion some pleb named agonee (who is secretly Hitler, can confirm) ruined towering wit AA

NGS is a hoax. Period

woah, what?? you can't get 1k hats anymore? Holy ****. what happened to this game while I was gone??

You left the game that's what happened. Shouldn't have gone away.

i'd like it if they added the york fort back because it was my favorite place to pk

sadly i know thats never gonna happen :(

hopefully this new guild update or whatever its called will be able to make towering a fun thing to do again.

The NGS is never coming. And the NGS can't be dead if it was never alive in the first place.

York town is cool but it's getting old I think Admins will Update it soon

Heres a idea: Stop playing Graal on September cuz there prob to be nothing new, except new hats at destiny or other shops, and the go back to play at October for graaloween event :L

How about enjoy the new items that you just bought? Thats an idea. Thats new. Its fresh. I dont see a need for something new every day just to keep coming back to play.

Why not change it to something similar to my implementation from like 10 years ago where you have to hold for two minutes to gain a guild win and a single slash brings about a new flag-holder? That US vs. Ventrue battle when I first implemented it was intense af.

Towering kinda is more then dead. It's an unflavored and undesired sport in graal now. Graal removed the one thing that made many more players than there is now to do it. Though one could argue people still enjoy it, which yes of course people will enjoy towering regardless, especially if your from Maphasy or other tower guilds. It's just your thing.

Towering now is extremely out of balance. There is no longer a single reward or anything at all for towering regardless of how much you end up doing so as far as my knowledge is since they removed hats about a year or two ago.

Along with the disappearance within the years towers in York, Castle, Snowtown.ect players are now forced to take over towers that was once Their friendly tower neighbor. Forcing fiercer competition and even killing competition among guilds who are no longer able to tower or even be unsuccessful at towering after a point in time, which also made it impossible for newer rising tower guilds to compete with the more fierce competiting tower guilds during the times when tower guilds was starting to disappear more and more.

As a result of all these incidents,towering has became most likely the most unpracticed activitiy in graal than it ever was in recent years, with new tower guilds rarely appearing leaving only the older guilds to rule over that tower for however long they feel like it.

So after all these slam attack of incidents, what are we led with? An extremely unflavored activitiy in Graal. One which not even new guilds are appearing into anymore to do. And if they do it is seemingly extremely rare.


Compared to the other most known activity in graal, Sparring. Towering has become very unbalanced when compared to it. In sparring you could spar enough to get your name written in a book for 40k ect. Or get good enough to attend a GST which give you the mystery gift for 2500.

But towering now anyway. There is absolutely no reward. Nothing to even motivate or pull newer players to attend the activity.

Towering isn't dead; you're dead.

This is less about the guild system but more about what kind of incentive needs to be implemented. What would pull all of you into wanting to tower again? With the way the system was exploited, which was absolutely disgusting, what kind of rewards would you enjoy "towering" over?

I never cared for hats when I towered, I just wanted to make a guild that would some day be notorious in taking and holding a towers much like Maphasy or Ninja Warriors. As soon as I started getting my stats to a worthy look, the reward system was eradicated and towering became nothing more than something to do if ye didn't feel like sparring or buying stuff for your house. I didn't think this would kill towering, but I was wrong since they hadn't put in a secure system to replace the old one.

As of now there is no point in towering at all, unless you just want to do it to have fun there isn't anything to compete for now. Hats alone are meh, I don't think that would spark everyone's interest at this point since not too many currently care for hats. I could be wrong, though.

We saw something about a guild shop, which opens up many opportunities such as points for how many hours a guild holds a tower to spend on items or things in the guild shop.

A new loyalty system should be in place to prevent anymore of that rec, use, kick and repeat BS. Perhaps a penalty system if ye kick a member. "But that can also be exploited since people will troll guilds!" Keep the word loyalty in mind, because a guild shouldn't be filled with randoms to aid your goals.

Such a system could work. Guild shops, loyalty points, ect. But you are also right these things can be exploited fairly easily. If anything makes competition risky by either playe not helping in towering or giving the wrong guild member kick powers

To reduce exploiting guilds, they could be penalised for kicking too many people in a short span of time, say 3-5 in only a few hours

That still could still be a double edged blade. Exploiting a guild and getting in and leaving is also pretty doable. Just have someone rec and get could leave on their own which could hurt the guild. Also multiple people could kick multiple people

removing 1k hats is one of the worst decisions ever.

whats the point in towering anymore.

Such system has been in the rumors for longer than I can remember

Before i'm eaten alive, i actually understand it is uncomfortable and dumb not to have a system while the other keeps developing, but i don't think they actually have another server to test things in. Roughly half of the work of the NGS is on fp4. We've waited for over a year, why don'tcha guys try to enjoy the other parts of the game? Slow and steady, as they say. Ranting ain't gonna boost it off. The complaints have already been noticed. I actually prefer a complete almost bugless system than a buggy incomplete piece of code (we have something similar though) so why don't we wait a lil' more? This ain't delteria we're talking about

because they're literally more boring then towering already is...

If that's so why don't ya try silent strike? Half of posts are from towering's dead complains

And why do you not try using proper spelling?

Hello!
If y'all want to give yourselves a new purpose, you should start creating graphics. It would be amazing if everybody made an aesthetical contribution to the game by creating his/her own outfit.

In case you never did it before, you can learn it at
https://goddroon.wixsite.com/hyycev

I wish everybody a great fresh start on Graal and am looking forward to your work. It is never too late!

Or insults

F**k off