Hackers in Battle Arena
 

If you spot anyone, post them here to shed some light

This guy was losing in siderooms, so he said, "gonna go break streak." Started becoming un-hittable, after he lost twice in main room. Currently on a 30+ streak

http://i.imgur.com/gfydMmE.png

Ahhh bless em.

http://puu.sh/u65IS/7d9d604584.png

this is the level we're at folks

hes almost on 60 streak, confirmed hax

ur just mad someone is better at sparring than u

Alright post the video

he's just toggling godmode on and off, admits it in status
the unfortunate part is that it's probably something that staff can't prevent due to how Graal's hit detection works

https://i.gyazo.com/6e21f95b44f02a0c...63aa47cf7c.gif

smoother video: https://gyazo.com/6e21f95b44f02a0c7f7ecc63aa47cf7c

the real problem is that it's allowed to happen for an entire hour though

Maybe we need admins who have experience in sparring????? Pretty sure if we pm any admin they will say he's not hacking since he's toggling god mode.

That's just sad @GPTeam :/

Happend 1sec after, Imma take 95% back

^

Situations like this are why we need people who have stats other than 5-17..

People like that just don't understand the mechanics of blink, delay, etc. I know this 'cause I don't even fully understand it and I've been sparring for 10+ years. Things like this are extremely obvious to me (or anyone who actively spars) though.

I'm curious as to how you plan to use this to blame GP inexperience when there were no GPs on in the first place.

We're working on filling in the gaps, but doing that can be hard when we lose so many GPs at once.

My guess is they assumed people were on (since we have no way to check) and assumed based on past experiences that a staff member saw them getting hit and assumed it was nothing. Of course we had no way to know for sure, but I don't think the assumption is 100% unreasonable given some of the players' past experiences.

hire
an
active
unbiased
sparrer
they're
on
all
the
time
and
not
that
hard
to
find.

Plus how isn't it an issue that GPs aren't active/readily avalible enough to respond to this?

Either way, Zelakto was on and so was Ghoul. Leah was too but idk if GFX staff have the ability to stop stuff like that.

Well, after I hit the dude 23 times and lost, I walked out of the arena to upload the video and post proof and the first thing I saw was

http://puu.sh/u6cX8/f22b280287.png

Being on graal doesnt mean you're on a computer. You need to be close to a computer to get on staff account.. Not everyone has access to their computer all the time.

have no fear, yami is here.

Remember Dusty said GP's can't validate anyone in a video or any format of evidence. Only the set of incompetent eyes will determine the outcome.

It's logic if someone doesn't know anything about sparring and sees someone gets hit and then doesn't get hit they will probably think he's delaying or something.

It is a problem, and I never said otherwise. However, it's not an inexperience issue so much as it is simply a fact that we can't possibly hire as many GPs at once as we lost in the past week or two.

I think the notion that an "unbiased" sparrer even exists is funny. Everyone will have some degree of bias if they are an active part of the sparring community. It doesn't mean they'll act on it, but they can still be biased. But sure, if you have anyone in mind that you think fits that description, have them apply and I'd love to take a look.
As I'm sure you're aware, you have to be on a computer to staff. Being idle / on your mobile account doesn't mean coming online to handle it is an option.

I wasn't home at the time or I would have come online and dealt with it.

why isn't kosiris a gp yet.

I heard the news, walked outside and just rage quit the game to check the forums after seeing him/her (idk) outside right there. Safe to say this is actually a huge problem now.

maybe we could also have a way to check what staff is online, or bring back the sign in the upload house that listed staff.

i, among many many other players have no idea who the majority of the staff is at this point.

i'm not very well versed in this stuff, but since staff can detect farmbots and horsebomb hackers, couldn't they also detect someone going on a 60+ spar streak?

TBH ghoul was helpful when I PMed her but it took >1h for that guy to be banned
http://imgur.com/GOyzGAO
http://imgur.com/ehGi5br

There wasn't a GP online when this was going on, Ghoul got on after he had already gotten banned.

She's the one who banned him cause I PMed her about it and she told me she just got on and then she banned him.

But my point is, if there weren't that many people in the room and everyone accusing him of hacking, he wouldn't be banned. That's why we need at least 1 experienced sparrer as GP. As you see in the video many "inexperienced" people think he's not hacking and think he's actually good, I guess current admins are like that too?

So, can you guys hire more people? Or ones that know what they're doing? Maybe it'd help if one or two GPs idled in the arena instead of outside of it, etc.

There were 70 people in a spar room complaining that someone was blatantly hacking in broad day… This isn't an isolated incident, it seems to be happening more and more. Your post reads as "we couldn't fix the problem because we already have another problem."

Can hackers ban Administrators?

Please read Jarace's posts.

Please do your job better and stop making the same excuses every single time you guys allow someone to hack for multiple hours straight in broad day? I wouldn't let it happen if I was a GP, so why do the GPs? You guys don't hire the correct people, that's the problem.

Would you like me to give you guys a list of exactly who to hire? I'll gladly help fix the problem since it seems like none of you can!

thalln wit da flame start

No one really wants this to happend, GP or non-GP.
As Jarace said, they are trying to hire more people. I'm sure everyone would be delighted to get a list, but it won't really help if they don't apply...

Not even dude, I just want them to stop making excuses and actually allocate some GPs towards gameplay-centric areas of the game. They act like it's so hard. It isn't.



They have applied. Again, you guys just don't hire them.

Jarace said that you guys are working on getting timezones covered, "but doing that can be hard when we lose so many GPs at once." Why are you losing GPs? Were they fired? Or they quit? Either way, that seems like a clear indication that you're hiring the wrong people.

The spar streak for mixed has been reset.

Thanks
But why wasn't the spar streak given to thallen, he had it before the hacker broke his streak...

Being a GP is volunteer work. People are allowed to leave the team when they don't have the time to contribute anymore.

Yo, just get better GPs like Dread, Jarace, and TD*. Stop avoiding the good help if you claim it's volunteer work. I am bored of this thread now and I will resign.

Edit: Oh, TD* quit, yeah… The team just genuinely sucks.

If it's paid, you guys would give a ****. But you are paid in green rocks.

Volunteer work doesn't equal "hire everyone".
It's weird how you direct all this at me, seeing I can't hire anyone to a team I don't work for. But then again, it's probably hard to comprehend the meaning of "they" versus "we".

no specific backup of the streak data -- there is going forward though.

im sure a competitor like thallen welcomes the opportunity to go reclaim the streak title anyway.

"Just hire better GPs" wasn't directed at you, and the only reason I was talking to you is because you came into this thread pretending like you're still a GP and playing the role of Jarace's shoulder parrot with comments like this:
Maybe don't say stuff like that if you aren't a GP or don't have a first-hand account of what's going on. I'm sure Jarace can handle it.

You act like it's easy to discern who is and isn't a GP anyway. You guys won't even publish a list of them anymore. If you had let me know you were one of the quitters, I'd have probably just ignored you completely and directed my comments towards someone who can actually do something about the problem.

I was online when this happened, I am sorry if I offended you by trying to give answers to the wrong information you and other people had. I guess it's pointless to try and explain to those who have already made their mind up.

lol I like how you guys talk about hiring new GPs like it's so easy.

why is there somebody roleplaying as a fox arguing over gps lol..who hire fox roleplayer guri????? shtup lol

if the staff would look at applications and not let mongoloids and unqualified ******s do nothing but **** post on a forum then I'm sure we'd have a staff team in no time!

Hire these people:
Bryan/Zicknex/Michael (pking)
Fulgore(I know he quit the gp team but he was good) (spar)
Kosiris/Sugar/Sarah (different timezones, spar and pking)
Jordini (I know hes gfx staff but let him monitor bk) (bking)
The R0ller (bking)

Also why do you allow people like Leah to make mistakes then say "they won't make that mistake again" only to have them make another mistake and end up using the same excuse over and over and over again.

Just find someone else to do the persons job there are other people who would fit that position nicely.

I don't see how hiring is a problem, you manage to find these terrible staff in those applications...right?

Fix the application, it has nothing to do with iclassic. It's basically a personality questionare at this point. In game experience should be taken into account at all times especially around competitive aspects of the game where its easy to think somebody is cheating without having any proof to back that accusation up.

Alrighty, Thallen, answer me this:

If you have time to sit and chill in the arena for a while, then why don't you become a GP yourself and do the job? What's your excuse for not doing that, if I may ask?

If you just sit in there to gain hours, then forget everything. If not, then what is it?

Adding on, if he's really a great candidate as he claims, he would've been on the team no questions asked. There's always a cost to having a big ego.

I'm expecting a lengthy post with excuses.

Because of his history, I don't agree with allowing him to be staff tbh. But he is in the same boat as everyone who applies.

History of bans/flags ---> Application rejected

ok wow where to begin.

Applications are looked at all the time. the reason not everyone who applies gets hired is because, obviously, not everyone is qualified. Just because someone spars a lot and/or has been around a while doesn't suddenly make them qualified. There can be all kinds of reason why someone isn't hired. Keep in mind the people that are hired are getting tools that can make or break the game, so we can't just give it to anyone. It's a very delicate process that we have to take seriously, because these are the people that are not only going to keep the peace and enforce the rules but also represent the server. Even when we do carefully hire people, we still get wackjobs occasionally. even the more sane, normal, and nicest-seeming person and the world can let the power get to their head and/or let emotions get the best of them and abuse such power.

As for Leah, she's the only person that I hired that's actually stuck around this long and hasn't done anything stupid, so maybe you all should back off. People make mistakes sometimes. Even I have made my fair share of mistake throughout the years. Deal with it. We've had people way worse that were taken care of accordingly. It's pretty freaking hard to find people like her and Jarace and Dread, so I would take my word for it as I have been in such a position before, unlike most of you all.

Don't forget we hire from players within the game that volunteer. Most of the people we hire are ages 16+ and therefore are in school or busy with more important things in their lives and don't have time to sit around all day and stare at their screens in the battle arena. I'm sure even if we did hire a sparrer, he/she also wouldn't have the time to sit and stare at their screen all day because again, having sparring experience doesn't make you more qualified than someone without it. GPs have an entire world to monitor. People are hacking/glitching/breaking rules all over the place that they have to deal with and no one seems to say anything about that, but oh god if something happens in the battle arena everyone goes absolutely insane and starts saying GPs aren't doing their jobs. Get over yourself. GPs aren't machines and can only do so much at a time. Hackers get taken care of so stop freaking out when it doesn't get taken care of immediately as soon as it happens because that isn't always possible.

[QUOTE=Red;765441]Because of his history, I don't agree with allowing him to be staff tbh. But he is in the same boat as everyone who applies.

History of bans/flags ---> Application rejected

Yeah, thought so. Anyway you aren't wrong about the application.
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hire me