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Cosmic 03-16-2017 12:44 AM

2k squad hours for hat
 
hm, I guess you can guess who made this stupid change.

Shmegg 03-16-2017 12:50 AM

I think it's a good idea.

Cosmic 03-16-2017 01:12 AM

well heres why I think it was a bad idea. For one we only have 4 bases and theres too much competition and squads. Second zones basing system is biased now since every 3 to 4 squads always dominate the bases and hog them. This doesnt give any small squads a chance because these dominate squads have the same people in them like steezy who own all types of auction items and high classed guns and melees. If they would add more bases then the 2k hours would be more reasonable.

ya gotta think about these decisions when you're a manager because it can really effect the game and the players experience. Many players like I have given ideas and suggestions on how to help improve the game in its horrible state right now but they haven't been put to use because our staff and manager don't even have the ability to execute it but somehow still have their jobs *cough* avril *cough*.

List 03-16-2017 01:42 AM

zones screwed lol

and this solifys me leaving zone

PigParty 03-16-2017 02:01 AM

I think it's a lousy "fix" that doesn't actually attempt to solve the real problem.

The basing system obviously needs major fixing, but instead of doing that, they just raise the reward requirement. This is why Zone is going no where.

Rosewald 03-16-2017 02:05 AM

Yeah i agree with pig.
All these other plans that were suppose to come in jan have been tossed out the window and this is the update that happens lol.

Cosmic 03-16-2017 03:24 AM

Lets face it, Blacky doesnt know what hes doing, he hasnt even given the poor kids on zone their 1k hats that they work for. I made a suggestion that there should be a system like the USA's political system where we can vote for our managers or impeach them, but it kinda is dumb, idk. Seriously though, Im surprised this game is still holding up, this the first game in history to ever be doing so horribly with delterian staff but somehow still has players, congrats.

Regius M. 03-17-2017 05:13 PM

RIP iZone,

Why did Silver retire tho?

Agonee 03-17-2017 05:47 PM

Rather a 2k squad hours hat than none, just a headsup

PigParty 03-17-2017 11:54 PM

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Posted by Agonee (Post 772443)
Rather a 2k squad hours hat than none, just a headsup

rather a real basing system than a pile of ****

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Posted by Regius M. (Post 772438)
Why did Silver retire tho?

because of the system

phoebefibi 03-26-2017 07:55 AM

Blackfires lack of passion to zone, development knowledge and creativity is the reason why basing is still poop. Why do they even hire dull managers. smh he's cool as a person but all he does as a manager is approve or disapprove projects and maybe suggest some minor changes, he ain't the person to think big.

Perseus 03-26-2017 08:05 AM

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Posted by phoebefibi (Post 774030)
Blackfires lack of passion to zone, development knowledge and creativity is the reason why basing is still poop. Why do they even hire dull managers. smh he's cool as a person but all he does as a manager is approve or disapprove projects and maybe suggest some minor changes, he ain't the person to think big.

They hire dull managers because all the bright ones can get better jobs on better servers. Zone = McDonalds of Graal

RyanB 03-26-2017 04:06 PM

but who even plays zone anymore?

Regius M. 03-26-2017 07:36 PM

Blackfires is actually doing things, but it's half a** work.

CaptainOscar 03-28-2017 12:46 PM

Blackfires is so bloody incompetent that it might even be considered surreal at this point.

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Posted by phoebefibi (Post 774030)
he ain't the person to think big.

You can't think big if you don't know the perimeters of what you can or can't do. All in all, Blackfires has no knowledge in what is actually possible to do and/or create so therefore, he's useless.

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Posted by Regius M. (Post 774089)
Blackfires is actually doing things, but it's half a** work.

I suggest him to stay away from doing things, the more he touches the more he breaks.

Shmegg 03-28-2017 01:08 PM

Oscar, you are really misinformed.

PigParty 03-28-2017 01:54 PM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 774315)
Oscar, you are really misinformed.

did u resign from being a webkinz mod??

Shmegg 03-28-2017 02:04 PM

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Posted by PigParty (Post 774316)
did u resign from being a webkinz mod??

Got sacked

Skyzer 03-29-2017 03:32 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 774317)
Got sacked

axed!

CaptainOscar 03-29-2017 10:00 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 774315)
Oscar, you are really misinformed.

Instead of telling me I'm misinformed on the matter, wouldn't it be better to tell Blackfires to show us progress and initiative instead? smh zone will never change.

Shmegg 03-29-2017 11:21 AM

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Posted by CaptainOscar (Post 774472)
Instead of telling me I'm misinformed on the matter, wouldn't it be better to tell Blackfires to show us progress and initiative instead? smh zone will never change.

Just saying, you don't have access to any of the staff chats so there's no way for you to know that Blackfires doesn't have anything planned.

As well, he literally has a whole team of people working under him that have their own ideas.

CaptainOscar 03-29-2017 11:39 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 774479)
Just saying, you don't have access to any of the staff chats so there's no way for you to know that Blackfires doesn't have anything planned.

As well, he literally has a whole team of people working under him that have their own ideas.

Wether he has plans or not is irrelevant. All past managers also had illuminating plans, but guess what happened? Exactly, nothing. They were all discarded because the managers weren't capable nor competent enough to finish them, or even start them for that matter.

For the sake of clarity though, could you name one thing that Blackfires has done that has been beneficial for the server?

Skyzer 03-30-2017 02:56 AM

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Posted by CaptainOscar (Post 774485)
Wether he has plans or not is irrelevant. All past managers also had illuminating plans, but guess what happened? Exactly, nothing. They were all discarded because the managers weren't capable nor competent enough to finish them, or even start them for that matter.

For the sake of clarity though, could you name one thing that Blackfires has done that has been beneficial for the server?

Oi. Shut the **** up.

CaptainOscar 03-30-2017 07:39 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 774610)
Oi. Shut the **** up.

Oi. Don't claim that you're a retired graal developer if you still hunt these forums like a maniac.

Shmegg 03-30-2017 07:48 AM

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Posted by CaptainOscar (Post 774485)
For the sake of clarity though, could you name one thing that Blackfires has done that has been beneficial for the server?

Non-obvious answer: Blackfires has provided the most stable management since Tashkin. He isn't involved with any petty drama, doesn't hire friends just to give them staff rewards, no scandals...

He isn't a long-term Zone player, yes, but when he works on something he always asks the team what their thoughts and opinions are, and discusses player suggestions with us as well.

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Posted by CaptainOscar (Post 774659)
Oi. Don't claim that you're a retired graal developer if you still hunt these forums like a maniac.


Those two aren't mutually exclusive

lili B* 04-03-2017 12:51 AM

2k For a Hat............................................... ....... like era

Melon* 04-03-2017 02:24 AM

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Posted by lili B* (Post 775282)
2k For a Hat............................................... ....... like era

wot

Ryan 04-03-2017 04:40 AM

It's a good thing. It reduces hat chasing

Melon* 04-03-2017 05:10 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 775336)
It's a good thing. It reduces hat chasing

And the player count lmao

Bleck3v3 04-03-2017 11:08 AM

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Posted by CaptainOscar (Post 774659)
Oi. Don't claim that you're a retired graal developer if you still hunt these forums like a maniac.

Wot. Developing and looking through the forums are two different things.

PigParty 04-03-2017 12:08 PM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 775336)
It's a good thing. It reduces hat chasing

but it doesn't fix the broke as **** basing system that helped 1k hat chasers thrive and dominate.

Bleck3v3 04-05-2017 02:02 AM

For my personal opinion I don't like the 2,000 hour reward Idea. 1,000 hours has been the tradition for eeveeerrrrrr and sure I know there is a mass production of 1k squadrons of being made but still. I know people are going to say "oh if you're loyal you'll stay no matter what the hour reward is." The thing is that that requires more time for people to use because not many people have the time to help support the 2k initiative. I may be spitting out random stuff but basically. Change it back lol. I don't play this game anymore but still

PigParty 04-05-2017 02:20 AM

2k squad hour requirement reduces the amount and/or speed of hat chasing squads, but it also reduces the amount of smaller guilds that try to base. By raising it to 2k, you're screwing over every single squad that has 8 loyal people and gets 5 hours a day on their way to 1k. You're only enforcing hat chasing squads by raising it to 2k. You're removing all their competition, and just bumping their requirement up so that it takes a month longer to get.


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