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Seņor Albonio 04-07-2017 07:39 AM

Abuse of power by GP?
 
For no reason whatsoever either Za Ichi or iHercules (I suspect the latter because his GP account was logged in at that moment) wiped my status and gave me a warning.

Is this abuse of power? And if so, shouldn't this have consequences?

I can't imagine someone doing this for fun just because they're admins.

I come back after almost 2 years and get hit with a warning on the second day, for no good reason. Bit harsh don't you think?

Ariona13 04-07-2017 07:40 AM

Honey admins have been abusing powers forever this is old news 😴

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4-Lom 04-07-2017 07:42 AM

What did your status say XD

Eugeen 04-07-2017 07:56 AM

What did your status say?

Even the slightest hint towards anything inappropriate will get you banned now

Skyzer 04-07-2017 08:10 AM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 776036)
For no reason whatsoever either Za Ichi or iHercules (I suspect the latter because his GP account was logged in at that moment) wiped my status and gave me a warning.

Is this abuse of power? And if so, shouldn't this have consequences?

I can't imagine someone doing this for fun just because they're admins.

I come back after almost 2 years and get hit with a warning on the second day, for no good reason. Bit harsh don't you think?

Just make it again if there was nothing wrong with it. O_o

Bryan* 04-07-2017 08:56 AM

What did your status specifically say for it to be wiped? You're leaving that information out.

Unorthodox 04-07-2017 09:21 AM

If your status has been reset by an admin then it probably contained some sort of inappropriate content or advertisement.

Saeed 04-07-2017 10:18 AM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 776036)
For no reason whatsoever either Za Ichi or iHercules (I suspect the latter because his GP account was logged in at that moment) wiped my status and gave me a warning.

Is this abuse of power? And if so, shouldn't this have consequences?

I can't imagine someone doing this for fun just because they're admins.

I come back after almost 2 years and get hit with a warning on the second day, for no good reason. Bit harsh don't you think?

There is so no such a thing as "GP's are abusing powers"
I believe that Your status will only be resetted if it contained: any type of insults, advertising, racist/sexist lines and/or mentioning a player's name in the purpose of offending him/her.
NOTE: in most cases, I think statuses get viewed by admins if the owner of the status was reported. Which suggest, your status was inappropriate.

tricklebean 04-07-2017 10:21 AM

Atleast include what you put in your status. I'm sure GP's don't benefit from randomly going around clearing everyone's status. This makes me suspect that you were on the wrong side here

Strum 04-07-2017 10:32 AM

Love that he doesn't say what was in the status

AstroHH 04-07-2017 11:28 AM

Alest u get a warning ion even get that n i got hit with a month ban for "intentionally scamming" when all i do is spar/gs lol
Admins ain't been right since the old graal times throughout 2009-12
(As far ik from playing)

Asaiki 04-07-2017 01:01 PM

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Posted by AstroHH (Post 776057)
Alest u get a warning ion even get that n i got hit with a month ban for "intentionally scamming" when all i do is spar/gs lol
Admins ain't been right since the old graal times throughout 2009-12
(As far ik from playing)

Shut up lol you were stealing unidentified people's account by identifying into your account.

Eugeen 04-07-2017 01:25 PM

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Posted by Asaiki (Post 776061)
Shut up lol you were stealing unidentified people's account by identifying into your account.

exposed

Seņor Albonio 04-07-2017 02:01 PM

It had a quote in it. Can't even remember because it's old but I doubt it had any swear words in it.

Something with butterflies and bees I think.

Drazius 04-07-2017 02:39 PM

I feel you. I quoted Benjamin Franklin, the whole "We surely must hang together or we will hang separately (paraphrased)," and had my status reset a while back. Pretty ridiculous but unjust bans and status resets are commonplace now. The PC police are on the loose.

Regius M. 04-07-2017 02:45 PM

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Posted by Asaiki (Post 776061)
Shut up lol you were stealing unidentified people's account by identifying into your account.

this thread is going to go from abuse of power to an argument with Astro and Asaiki.

RIP

CM 04-07-2017 03:00 PM

You're accusing an admin of abusing their powers, yet you don't even provide the status that you had?

Seņor Albonio 04-07-2017 03:18 PM

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Posted by CM (Post 776069)
You're accusing an admin of abusing their powers, yet you don't even provide the status that you had?

read tred lmao

Ariona13 04-07-2017 03:19 PM

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Posted by AstroHH (Post 776057)
Alest u get a warning ion even get that n i got hit with a month ban for "intentionally scamming" when all i do is spar/gs lol
Admins ain't been right since the old graal times throughout 2009-12
(As far ik from playing)

Im banned a month for intentional scamming well but i was AFK feels bad man :(

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Seņor Albonio 04-07-2017 03:20 PM

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Posted by Ariona11 (Post 776071)
Omg this happened to me to, im banned for a month for intentional scamming.

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This happened to me and I appealed.

I got a reply 2 months after I was unbanned, gg.

Ariona13 04-07-2017 03:25 PM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 776074)
This happened to me and I appealed.

I got a reply 2 months after I was unbanned, gg.

I sent 6 tickets in a span of 2 weeks i haven't gotten a straight forward detailed explanation as to why im banned. Its alright tho, just gotta hope i dont miss the egg hunt. 7 days to go 🙏

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Fulgore 04-07-2017 03:28 PM

Insults shouldn't be wiped. Noone forced them to click on the status, and nobody chooses whether someone decides to be offended or not. You don't ban/warn people for saying "you suck" when you get that report, so the same thing, to an even greater extent I'd argue, is true for a status. Not that 95% of them know/care about the rules but figured I'd put this here.

Bryan* 04-07-2017 04:21 PM

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 776065)
It had a quote in it. Can't even remember because it's old but I doubt it had any swear words in it.

Something with butterflies and bees I think.

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee?

Drazius 04-07-2017 05:20 PM

I'm willing to bet money his initial status wasn't offensive. I gave an example in this forum thread as well. There are certain admins that enjoy their stature too much and should be removed from the group. The problem is making that happen is near impossible.

Seņor Albonio 04-07-2017 05:36 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 776080)
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee?

Yes that's the one

Saeed 04-07-2017 05:48 PM

The reason why statuses are taken more serious because, if you get pm'ed by a player saying "you're so bad!!" You can easily block them/put your pm's from friends only. If someone for some reason made you feel uncomfortable in public chat, you can easily block them/put your public chat: friends only or...
But, when you say something in your status, everyone is capable of reading what you said. I alread said in my lost post why would people's statuses get resetted (in my opinion) but, if you really think your status had nothing wrong with it, then why don't you pm any admin asking him/her the reason why your status was resetted? Make sure you mention your status in pm. If you know it was un appropriate, then there is no point complaining about gp's resetting your status because, nothing will be changed.

Fulgore 04-07-2017 05:52 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 776086)
The reason why statuses are taken more serious because, if you get pm'ed by a player saying "you're so bad!!" You can easily block them/put your pm's from friends only. If someone for some reason made you feel uncomfortable in public chat, you can easily block them/put your public chat: friends only or...
But, when you say something in your status, everyone is capable of reading what you said. I alread said in my lost post why would people's statuses get resetted (in my opinion) but, if you really think your status had nothing wrong with it, then why don't you pm any admin asking him/her the reason why your status was resetted? Make sure you mention your status in pm. If you know it was un appropriate, then there is no point complaining about gp's resetting your status because, nothing will be changed.

98% of the time they won't tell you why if you pm them, you just get told to go to toonslab. That's not even with the factor that they don't know the rules half the time and just decide to do things based on their perception of morality.

Saeed 04-07-2017 06:16 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 776087)
98% of the time they won't tell you why if you pm them, you just get told to go to toonslab. That's not even with the factor that they don't know the rules half the time and just decide to do things based on their perception of morality.

If your status wasn't "inappropriate" in an obvious way, and you pm'ed any admin mentioning your old status with quotation marks plus asking them nicely how did your status broke the iClassic rules. I guarantee that you will get a reply from the admin, explaining why your status was rested.

Crono 04-07-2017 06:29 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 776086)
The reason why statuses are taken more serious because, if you get pm'ed by a player saying "you're so bad!!" You can easily block them/put your pm's from friends only. If someone for some reason made you feel uncomfortable in public chat, you can easily block them/put your public chat: friends only or...
But, when you say something in your status, everyone is capable of reading what you said. I alread said in my lost post why would people's statuses get resetted (in my opinion) but, if you really think your status had nothing wrong with it, then why don't you pm any admin asking him/her the reason why your status was resetted? Make sure you mention your status in pm. If you know it was un appropriate, then there is no point complaining about gp's resetting your status because, nothing will be changed.

cept no one is forcing you to read a bad status let alone clicking a player you've blocked

Seņor Albonio 04-07-2017 07:20 PM

Back on topic though;

I dindu nuffin.

Then why are they wiping my status?
Sounds an awful lot like power abuse to me. I know it's minor but I don't want some triggerhappy clown wielding a ban hammer.

Saeed 04-07-2017 08:00 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 776097)
cept no one is forcing you to read a bad status let alone clicking a player you've blocked

there are tons of reasons why inappropriate statuses should get resetted.
Apart from what I already listed in my previous post, I willi list some here.

If someone had a status in the purpose of exposing/offending/insulting another person, then this status will most likely get reseted by an admin. Because, the audience of this status might make bad comments on it in public chat.Or, they might pm this person in the purpose of putting him down. Yes, no one forced this player to open that status but, it doesn't stop other curious players from opening this status either. This could lead them to harras that person even more!
In addition, if the status wasn't offending a specific person but, it contained racism, insults or anything else inappropriate then it should still get resetted. Because, opening an inappropriate status might make people feel uncomfortable or even personally offended! You can't say no one forced them to open the status otherwise, people will be worried when opening a player's profile. They will be worried if this player's status is going be inappropriate or not. But, rather than having all those worries, admins will just simply reset an inappropriate status.
Finally, imagine someone just joined this game. They opened someone's profile and saw this inappropriate status. Won't you agree that it will give him/her a bad image of the game? This might lead them to close the game and never open it again. You can't say no one forced them to open that status because, they probably wasn't expecting to see thus. Also, the company is trying to increase graal's popularity not the opposite.

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Posted by Seņor Albonio (Post 776113)
Back on topic though;

I dindu nuffin.

Then why are they wiping my status?
Sounds an awful lot like power abuse to me. I know it's minor but I don't want some triggerhappy clown wielding a ban hammer.

I don't understand you. As I mentioned before, if you really think your status was inappropriate then pm an admin asking him for an explanation! Make sure you mention fully what you said on that status. Otherwise, you cannot say GP's are abusing their power. In my opinion, this is a silly assumption.

Fulgore 04-07-2017 08:01 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 776093)
If your status wasn't "inappropriate" in an obvious way, and you pm'ed any admin mentioning your old status with quotation marks plus asking them nicely how did your status broke the iClassic rules. I guarantee that you will get a reply from the admin, explaining why your status was rested.

I want my money back on the guarantee, cause nobody does this.

You aren't going to become a gp just from sucking up to them Saeed, you'll look better if you just let it go.

Sarah_ 04-07-2017 08:06 PM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 776118)
You aren't going to become a gp just from sucking up to them Saeed, you'll look better if you just let it go.

^^^^^^^^
I would also like to point out that Thallen got banned for helping out people when aTor made (feedback) and recruited people who do the same thing. (+Broken English speakers)

Saeed 04-07-2017 08:17 PM

Let me make a point. I did not apply to be a gp! You want to believe it? You don't want to believe it? It's my last interest to know.
Feedback members are not "semi admins" they are just mature graal players.
Let's not lie to each other, Who is going to believe that someone was banned for just helping someone?
I made clear points on this thread, so did you guys. Your message to the audience is to to teach them that they should hate admins regardless if they are good or bad people.
English isn't the best at all times, it might be a rule that you need to have good use of gramma.... to become an admin. But, this rule don't apply on Feedback members. As long as they are mature.

tricklebean 04-07-2017 08:31 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 776117)
*a load of obvious things an admin would say which no one really wants to read*

You literally only needed to write a few sentences to explain to him what you've just said. If you read the posts, he actually said what he put in his status. 'Sting like a butterfly' blah blah. He made this thread because he wanted to know why it was reset. He didn't ask for an essay on inappropriate status; he's looking for a specific reason.

Sarah_ 04-07-2017 08:32 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 776125)
Who is going to believe that someone was banned for just helping someone?

He was tho

Seņor Albonio 04-07-2017 08:49 PM

Quote:

Posted by Saeed (Post 776117)


I don't understand you. As I mentioned before, if you really think your status was inappropriate then pm an admin asking him for an explanation! Make sure you mention fully what you said on that status. Otherwise, you cannot say GP's are abusing their power. In my opinion, this is a silly assumption.

Lmao I did and they completely ignored me. That's why I ultimately posted here, because it seemed a bit harsh.

Striken 04-07-2017 10:06 PM

@saeed what can you help people on graal with that other's can't?

David 04-07-2017 10:11 PM

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Posted by Saeed (Post 776086)
The reason why statuses are taken more serious because, if you get pm'ed by a player saying "you're so bad!!" You can easily block them/put your pm's from friends only. If someone for some reason made you feel uncomfortable in public chat, you can easily block them/put your public chat: friends only or...
But, when you say something in your status, everyone is capable of reading what you said. I alread said in my lost post why would people's statuses get resetted (in my opinion) but, if you really think your status had nothing wrong with it, then why don't you pm any admin asking him/her the reason why your status was resetted? Make sure you mention your status in pm. If you know it was un appropriate, then there is no point complaining about gp's resetting your status because, nothing will be changed.

shut up saeed you're not going to get hired

Skyzer 04-07-2017 10:18 PM

People are allowed to be offensive. Grow some thinker skin, you baby.

Foxmon 04-07-2017 10:33 PM

The problem with going on the forums about these kind of stuff is that there's no proof that you're going to tell the truth about what happened, and these kind of posts are usually only based on speculations.


Also, please keep the forum rules in mind:
  • Remember that this is a fan forum, so whining about your in-game conflicts with staff and discussing bans is not appropriate here either. Such concerns should be forwarded to the people who can deal with them at support.

Jimbo 04-07-2017 11:20 PM

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Posted by Sarah_ (Post 776119)
^^^^^^^^
I would also like to point out that Thallen got banned for helping out people when aTor made (feedback) and recruited people who do the same thing. (+Broken English speakers)

Saying + broken English wasnīt necessary when your English arenīt the best for a university student

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Posted by David (Post 776151)
shut up saeed you're not going to get hired

Ok, leave thread now?

Sarah_ 04-07-2017 11:29 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 776164)
Saying + broken English wasnīt necessary when your English arenīt the best for a university student

Yeah because I'm french and I major chemistry but he's from UK...

Jimbo 04-07-2017 11:42 PM

yes he is from the UK and you should not judge others by their English when you are not good at it yourself

Sarah_ 04-07-2017 11:46 PM

Well I'm good at speaking my language whereas he isn't lol, English is my 2nd language how are you judging me over that?
What I'm saying is that he's from UK, has a broken English and trying to become an admin.

Shmegg 04-07-2017 11:55 PM

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Posted by Guri (Post 776158)
The problem with going on the forums about these kind of stuff is that there's no proof that you're going to tell the truth about what happened, and these kind of posts are usually only based on speculations.


Also, please keep the forum rules in mind:
  • Remember that this is a fan forum, so whining about your in-game conflicts with staff and discussing bans is not appropriate here either. Such concerns should be forwarded to the people who can deal with them at support.

Agreed with Guri.
If you've already appealed, there's nothing we can do for you here.


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