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HamStarr 05-26-2017 11:26 PM

The Downfall of Graalians.com
 
Greetings.

As you may know, Colin will be resigning sometime in late July due to changes in our forums. Whatever's going to happen to our fan forum, we do not know. But one thing's for certain; Graalians.com is going to be ****ed. Like, really badly. There is a solution to this problem, however, but it might not be easy for some of us. Since these forums are going to end up like OGCC, we might as well do this:

Leave. Abandon these forums.

If a simple bread hoarder is going to make this a cutesy, family friendly environment, then we all might as well just pack our bags and let most of this new community eat at each other like the ignorant SJWs they are. I'll be taking part of this leave, around the same date Colin is leaving.
Now, I understand that some of you want to make sure nothing happens to these fan forums, and as such I respect your decision to do so; and I wish best of luck to you.

Be ready for July 29th.

Weeno 05-26-2017 11:30 PM

When alexmo was banned

Dusty 05-26-2017 11:45 PM

May as well just ride it out and see how it goes instead of abandoning ship before it even hits the iceberg.

Thallen 05-26-2017 11:56 PM

you guys are being super cringe about this

"DAE else darlene? xD maybe i should make custom title about her so people now i'm hip and in the know?"
yeah, we get it, the gossip hit your discord or kik group - half of you have never even experienced her moderating lol

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Posted by HamStarr (Post 783691)
If a simple bread hoarder is going to make this a cutesy, family friendly environment, then we all might as well just pack our bags and let most of this new community eat at each other like the ignorant SJWs they are.

many of the snowflakes on here would probably love that anyway

Admiral 05-27-2017 12:00 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 783697)
you guys are being super cringe about this

"DAE else darlene? xD maybe i should make custom title about her so people now i'm hip and in the know?"
yeah, we get it, the gossip hit your discord or kik group - half of you have never even experienced her moderating lol

ya seeing as the majority of this forum including myself are non PC its pretty cringe to see this bandwagon

I mean yeah we've heard the rumours etc but there really is no point jumping ship right now, i'll go out on a limb and say it can't be that bad

Thallen 05-27-2017 12:02 AM

not only that, but hysteria this early is going to encourage people to jump to the very first graalians clone that pops up, and who's to say if it's being run by people with integrity

5hift 05-27-2017 12:09 AM

I highly doubt you know actually know what is going to happen so I'm just going to stick it out until the bitter end.

I spend too much goddamn time with this place to just up and leave.

PigParty 05-27-2017 12:26 AM

honestly this thread will probably only entice people to stay and see what happens

but hey, shmegg's still here so it's gonna b fine

Eugeen 05-27-2017 12:33 AM

We'll see what happens
If anything I hope nothing really changes at all

KristenGW 05-27-2017 12:54 AM

Never even heard of this tbh I'm too lazy to switch as it is

RyanB 05-27-2017 12:59 AM

Make a new forum rufos or I'll set up an unofficial discord graalians server

Sir Travis 05-27-2017 01:18 AM

Well if there is anything I can do to help don't hesitate to ask, I like this forum and it's a great place to spam all things graal :D

Holy crap Colin is leaving?

Never saw it coming

damn

Ryan 05-27-2017 01:43 AM

>The downfall of graalians.com
> HamStarr making threads

pick one.

Colin 05-27-2017 02:35 AM

Yes I'll be leaving shortly, but whatever this date is you guys have for it and the date Darlene will be moderator is completely false and someone was just joking around.

Darlene joined to message me about something that had already been worked out by the time she got in contact with me, there is nothing so far that indicates she is going to be a moderator.

Will she at some point? Maybe, but right now she has done nothing but just register and browse the forums which everyone has the right to do. It's extremely disappointing to see you guys talk about how great Graalians is but then harass Darlene every chance possible just for being here, especially when the majority of you are doing it as it's the "cool" thing to do.

While, yes, it's within the realm of possibilities that everything goes south and Graalians won't be the same, it's also possible that things for the most part will remain relatively normal and Graalians won't be as bad as you guys are thinking it will be.

Me leaving is in no way 'jumping ship' because I'm expecting Graalians to be ruined, I've just had some personal disagreements with certain parties and my time to move on was already approaching due to real life responsibilities.

A forum is only as good as its users are so I suggest you guys actually wait for a valid reason before hitting the panic button.

Pokki 05-27-2017 02:59 AM

wait like what's happening i'm confused

HamStarr 05-27-2017 03:02 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 783738)
Yes I'll be leaving shortly, but whatever this date is you guys have for it and the date Darlene will be moderator is completely false and someone was just joking around.

Darlene joined to message me about something that had already been worked out by the time she got in contact with me, there is nothing so far that indicates she is going to be a moderator.

Will she at some point? Maybe, but right now she has done nothing but just register and browse the forums which everyone has the right to do. It's extremely disappointing to see you guys talk about how great Graalians is but then harass Darlene every chance possible just for being here, especially when the majority of you are doing it as it's the "cool" thing to do.

While, yes, it's within the realm of possibilities that everything goes south and Graalians won't be the same, it's also possible that things for the most part will remain relatively normal and Graalians won't be as bad as you guys are thinking it will be.

Me leaving is in no way 'jumping ship' because I'm expecting Graalians to be ruined, I've just had some personal disagreements with certain parties and my time to move on was already approaching due to real life responsibilities.

A forum is only as good as its users are so I suggest you guys actually wait for a valid reason before hitting the panic button.

I apologize for any panic caused, the message must've not been clear to me.
Delete the thread if necessary.

Weeno 05-27-2017 03:42 AM

Graalify master race

Aftermath 05-27-2017 03:47 AM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 783750)
Graalify master race

rip
http://i.imgur.com/T39RgRU.png

twilit 05-27-2017 05:31 AM

This forum went to **** ever since rofos left.

//who's Darlene?

Brick 05-27-2017 06:38 AM

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Posted by twilit (Post 783759)
//who's Darlene?

A moderator for the official graal forums.

Yog 05-27-2017 06:43 AM

I don't give a hoodilly-do about who Darlene is. I'm just upset about the Maloria censorship.

Springy 05-27-2017 06:50 AM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 783694)
May as well just ride it out and see how it goes instead of abandoning ship before it even hits the iceberg.

I'm with dusty on this, but if it does go to **** I'm Packing my **** and leaving

G Fatal 05-27-2017 07:02 AM

So this means there might be brief moment of uncensored ****.. hallelfkingujah

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Posted by Yog (Post 783763)
I don't give a hoodilly-do about who Darlene is. I'm just upset about the Maloria censorship.

Was only because they was going to jump ship themselves

It's hape censorship you gotta worry about @Maloria/Ava/KT etc

pojo 05-27-2017 07:08 AM

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Posted by Colin (Post 783738)
Yes I'll be leaving shortly, but whatever this date is you guys have for it and the date Darlene will be moderator is completely false and someone was just joking around.

Darlene joined to message me about something that had already been worked out by the time she got in contact with me, there is nothing so far that indicates she is going to be a moderator.

Will she at some point? Maybe, but right now she has done nothing but just register and browse the forums which everyone has the right to do. It's extremely disappointing to see you guys talk about how great Graalians is but then harass Darlene every chance possible just for being here, especially when the majority of you are doing it as it's the "cool" thing to do.

While, yes, it's within the realm of possibilities that everything goes south and Graalians won't be the same, it's also possible that things for the most part will remain relatively normal and Graalians won't be as bad as you guys are thinking it will be.

Me leaving is in no way 'jumping ship' because I'm expecting Graalians to be ruined, I've just had some personal disagreements with certain parties and my time to move on was already approaching due to real life responsibilities.

A forum is only as good as its users are so I suggest you guys actually wait for a valid reason before hitting the panic button.


Was it your call to accept payments on behalf of Graalians, or was that out of your hands? I don't know Graalians' circumstances, but to head an independent fan-community and accept money from that kind of source takes a substantial lack of integrity. I can't fault Cyberjoueurs or whatever the company is now for approaching a with the intention of a buyout, that's just common sense for a business to want to control every popular platform of their product. But jesus, man.

I don't know most of the people that frequent this place, but I know without a doubt in my mind that a not insignificant number older Graal players would've been willing to donate to keep this place independent. Was such a drive ever brought up, or did you go straight to selling your soul? Hell, if someone mentioned that to me two years ago out of the blue when Graal was the last thing on my mind I'd have thrown money at it out of petty spite, and I know I'm not alone.

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A forum is only as good as its users
Yeah, nah, that just really makes it look like you don't know what sort of can of worms this is.







also darlene's not that bad

G Fatal 05-27-2017 07:12 AM

Colin doesn't own graalians, hape does now apparently well supposively has paid for it for a few years now(probs a year) So he ain't been paid I doubt.. If anything they'd have paid him for his censorship lmao :giggle:

pojo 05-27-2017 07:17 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 783770)
Colin doesn't own graalians, hape does now apparently well supposively has paid for it for a few years now(probs a year) So he ain't been paid I doubt.. If anything they'd have paid him for his censorship lmao :giggle:

The point is that under no circumstances should have Graalians (or any independent site) accepted money from Unix (or any outside power like that). That's stupid as ****. Anyone who would be cool with that without having pursued other options is just asking to burn the place down.

G Fatal 05-27-2017 07:22 AM

The people that have owned it barely ever come on or quit completely so I don't think they generally care, money talks in business... That being said money/greed also can destroy businesses.

Bets on this forum to be updated for playerworlds and graal3D.

pojo 05-27-2017 07:25 AM

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Posted by G Fatal (Post 783774)
money talks in business...

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Posted by pojo (Post 783768)
I know without a doubt in my mind that a not insignificant number older Graal players would've been willing to donate to keep this place independent. [...] if someone mentioned that to me two years ago out of the blue when Graal was the last thing on my mind I'd have thrown money at it out of petty spite, and I know I'm not alone.

ffs there's no :cool: emote so I have to use this 😎

SomeGuy 05-27-2017 07:59 AM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 783750)
Graalify master race



Please, no.

Shmegg 05-27-2017 08:04 AM

Quote:

Posted by pojo (Post 783768)
Was it your call to accept payments on behalf of Graalians, or was that out of your hands? I don't know Graalians' circumstances, but to head an independent fan-community and accept money from that kind of source takes a substantial lack of integrity. I can't fault Cyberjoueurs or whatever the company is now for approaching a with the intention of a buyout, that's just common sense for a business to want to control every popular platform of their product. But jesus, man.

I don't know most of the people that frequent this place, but I know without a doubt in my mind that a not insignificant number older Graal players would've been willing to donate to keep this place independent. Was such a drive ever brought up, or did you go straight to selling your soul? Hell, if someone mentioned that to me two years ago out of the blue when Graal was the last thing on my mind I'd have thrown money at it out of petty spite, and I know I'm not alone.



Yeah, nah, that just really makes it look like you don't know what sort of can of worms this is.

I believe yourself missing a few key points.

- Toonslab has officially owned Graalians for a while now, therefore not making it independent.

- Colin didn't seek out payment, and declined it when he was offered. That's hardly "selling your soul".

- It wasn't Colin's decision to give Graalians to Toonslab.

Eugeen 05-27-2017 11:12 AM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 783777)
I believe yourself missing a few key points.

- Toonslab has officially owned Graalians for a while now, therefore not making it independent.

- Colin didn't seek out payment, and declined it when he was offered. That's hardly "selling your soul".

- It wasn't Colin's decision to give Graalians to Toonslab.

So does that mean you do take payments?

Crono 05-27-2017 11:25 AM

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Posted by pojo (Post 783768)
I don't know most of the people that frequent this place, but I know without a doubt in my mind that a not insignificant number older Graal players would've been willing to donate to keep this place independent. Was such a drive ever brought up, or did you go straight to selling your soul? Hell, if someone mentioned that to me two years ago out of the blue when Graal was the last thing on my mind I'd have thrown money at it out of petty spite, and I know I'm not alone.

Are you being serious right now? A donation drive? Imagine it from unixmad's perspective: a Graal forum with people throwing money at the owners. We already know how that would end and it would look worse for all parties involved. Last I checked you get banned for getting money in exchange for development on Graal, get real man.

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Posted by pojo (Post 783768)
also darlene's not that bad

Get out.

G Fatal 05-27-2017 12:17 PM

Pojo joined Nov 2011 and has 5posts... yet says would donate money to keep forum running lmfao!!! Anyway whoever did own and sold would of never given to a random player.period.

Hape/Unix will most likely just branch this into the new stuff that'll eventually come (Playerworlds ios and Graal3D etc) -That's saying if he even does anything, maybe only reason he bought is to censor anything that can divert them to another game/new games also near release*cough* Certain games in particular*cough*

Thallen 05-27-2017 12:49 PM

I don't know what makes any of you think unixmad or anyone else isn't entitled to "censor" the free advertisement of another game on their forums? No diferent than a Twitch streamer banning discussions of other streamers in their chat, go set up a lemonade stand outside of Starbucks and see how you get treated, etc.

Shmegg 05-27-2017 12:52 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 783786)
So does that mean you do take payments?

No. I'm fine with volunteering.
hedoesitforfree.jpeg

Howl 05-27-2017 01:51 PM

why will it and how will it be ruined

G Fatal 05-27-2017 02:18 PM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 783791)
I don't know what makes any of you think unixmad or anyone else isn't entitled to "censor" the free advertisement of another game on their forums? No diferent than a Twitch streamer banning discussions of other streamers in their chat, go set up a lemonade stand outside of Starbucks and see how you get treated, etc.

Where did I say he isn't entitled:rolleyes: I'm just saying that may be one of reasons why as them games are the only ones being censored(and will get spoke about as co owned G) not stuff like gta or something else for example.

PigParty 05-27-2017 03:31 PM

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Posted by Shmegg (Post 783792)
No. I'm fine with volunteering.
hedoesitforfree.jpeg

thank u for ur service

Dusty 05-27-2017 04:13 PM

Donation drive would have never worked. It may have worked for a few months than interest would die down, leaving them to scramble trying to find a way to keep the site open, or pestering members constantly for donations.

Ivy 05-27-2017 04:20 PM

My art thread :'(

5hift 05-27-2017 04:37 PM

The forum should be subscription based so all the broke-ass spammers can't join.
Lol.

Weeno 05-27-2017 05:20 PM

Wait so my gfx thread along with my gfx im too lazy to save will all be gone?

Crono 05-27-2017 05:51 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 783812)
Wait so my gfx thread along with my gfx im too lazy to save will all be gone?

no.

TomatoPanda 05-27-2017 05:56 PM

Who ready for graalify yo.

Vector 05-27-2017 06:01 PM

:unsure:

Eugeen 05-28-2017 12:58 AM

So many random users popping up the last few days, most with old accounts aswell

Sardon 05-28-2017 02:33 AM

I am contemplating whether to invest in purchasing The website from toonslab and adding an erotica subforum in graphics.

5hift 05-28-2017 03:05 AM

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Posted by Sardon (Post 783930)
I am contemplating whether to invest in purchasing The website from toonslab and adding an erotica subforum in graphics.

Lol Sardon make me a mod I'll protect this town from trolls like you.

RyanB 05-28-2017 03:06 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 783940)
Lol Sardon make me a mod I'll protect this town from trolls like you.

lol kys

5hift 05-28-2017 03:07 AM

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Posted by RyanB (Post 783941)
lol kys

*Sees RyanB posting*

Its high noon.

*Deleted post*


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