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Ashur 06-12-2017 12:50 AM

For the love of devices!!
 
Problem: Number of competitive device players is steadily decreasing in arena. Due to lack of equality with player controls, namely, 'strafe'. To define, device can go ^,>,V,< and 4 directions diagonal. Pc can go those directions plus <^>, <v>, v>^, v<^ these 4.

Intermediate Solution: Have a room, building or area where device sparrers and pc sparrers can spar solely their own kind (pc or device). This once existed and.. Should still.

Leave thoughts below, Thanks!

Sig. 06-12-2017 01:01 AM

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Posted by Ashur (Post 786508)
We absolutely need seperation of device and console in the spar arena. Its been said before and will be said again. Love it or hate it, this was easily the most populated room and created equality in player control. probably the wrong place to post this but foreal people lets get our room back!! Post thoughts below 😁

Bull**** idea. Just another excuse, why don't you see people like Sarah cry about PC sparrers and vice versa? Because they don't suck.
I used to spar on iOS before sparring on PC and I loved sparring PC players with my iPod - I would still do it if I wouldn't prefer Android.

Agonee 06-12-2017 01:01 AM

Remove iDev or add Android

Eugeen 06-12-2017 01:19 AM

"consoles"
Yeah xbox really needs to get their own spar room and stay there

Paddie 06-12-2017 01:36 AM

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Posted by Sig. (Post 786512)
Bull**** idea. Just another excuse, why don't you see people like Sarah cry about PC sparrers and vice versa? Because they don't suck.
I used to spar on iOS before sparring on PC and I loved sparring PC players with my iPod - I would still do it if I wouldn't prefer Android.

What right you have to speak ill of others lol? No body is crying here. I've never seen you sparring, moron! No, you have no experience. You are talking such nonsense. Do we know you? Your trying to get attention being rude lol. Only important people can post here and you are not bro. No, you are not right! Get a personality. Please, Shut up and get out now :)!

Sig. 06-12-2017 01:46 AM

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Posted by Paddie (Post 786517)
What right you have to speak ill of others lol? No body is crying here. I've never see you sparring, moron! No, you have no experience. You are talking such nonsense. Do we know you? Your trying to get attention being rude lol. Only important people can post here and you are not bro. No, you are not right! Get a personality. Please, Shut up and get out now :)!

"I can't win against PC sparrers I want to spar against players who only use the same device as I - I want "equality in playercontrol!!!". Totally not crying, nah.

You probably don't see me spar because I rarely spar at all. And with my 13000 spar matches I believe that I have atleast a little bit experience. Also, thank god that you actually don't know me - I'm saving so many nerves.

Striken 06-12-2017 02:41 AM

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Posted by Sig. (Post 786512)
Bull**** idea. Just another excuse, why don't you see people like Sarah cry about PC sparrers and vice versa? Because they don't suck.
I used to spar on iOS before sparring on PC and I loved sparring PC players with my iPod - I would still do it if I wouldn't prefer Android.

:thinking:

Pokki 06-12-2017 02:44 AM

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Posted by Striken (Post 786527)
:thinking:

the shade

DoubleliftGraal 06-12-2017 03:05 AM

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Posted by Sig. (Post 786519)
"I can't win against PC sparrers I want to spar against players who only use the same device as I - I want "equality in playercontrol!!!". Totally not crying, nah.

You probably don't see me spar because I rarely spar at all. And with my 13000 spar matches I believe that I have atleast a little bit experience. Also, thank god that you actually don't know me - I'm saving so many nerves.

OH YOU'RE SIGGY HELLO!!! :D.

Ashur 06-12-2017 03:19 AM

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Posted by Sig. (Post 786519)
"I can't win against PC sparrers I want to spar against players who only use the same device as I - I want "equality in playercontrol!!!". Totally not crying, nah.

You probably don't see me spar because I rarely spar at all. And with my 13000 spar matches I believe that I have atleast a little bit experience. Also, thank god that you actually don't know me - I'm saving so many nerves.

This is you saving nerves? you need to relax bro. Im all for sparring in the open rooms if this does happen, Im not cryin about a damn thing. There should be (idevice/android) room and (pc/mac) room.. Its about choice. You against freedom?

Raeven 06-12-2017 03:21 AM

Android room pls

Paddie 06-12-2017 03:31 AM

I play on tablet and iPhone XD. Yes, that's why I have many accounts. I won't spar anymore because I'm always losing! Sever is laggy and then I start to offend everyone.

DoubleliftGraal 06-12-2017 03:42 AM

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Posted by Paddie (Post 786537)
LOL !!!! Is that Siggy? Hey Siggy, How is your mother? I always care about others :)

why are u h8ed in graal server? U seem pretty normal imo.

Well, more like curious lil kid

Khai 06-12-2017 06:32 AM

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Posted by Paddie (Post 786517)
What right you have to speak ill of others lol? No body is crying here. I've never see you sparring, moron! No, you have no experience. You are talking such nonsense. Do we know you? Your trying to get attention being rude lol. Only important people can post here and you are not bro. No, you are not right! Get a personality. Please, Shut up and get out now :)!

this is hella funny lmfao

PumaD 06-12-2017 09:57 AM

I wonder how long it takes until Paddie is banned.

Sig. 06-12-2017 11:07 AM

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Posted by DoubleliftGraal (Post 786541)
why are u h8ed in graal server? U seem pretty normal imo.

Well, more like curious lil kid

I honestly don't know what my mother has to do with Graal lol.

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Posted by Ashur (Post 786536)
This is you saving nerves? you need to relax bro. Im all for sparring in the open rooms if this does happen, Im not cryin about a damn thing. There should be (idevice/android) room and (pc/mac) room.. Its about choice. You against freedom?

No, not this. Not having to deal with Paddie every single time I log into Graal is saving me nerves. I don't know why there should be a device restriction - the PC room was always dead anyways. More rooms encourage more boosting; and there are already enough side rooming 24/7. If you want to spar iOS users only, invite them to your guildhouse and go ahead.

Paddie 06-12-2017 12:06 PM

Lol I didn't mean you, I got confused. I already deleted that post. Don't make a drama lol. Of course I don't want to know you, noob! I'm so special.

Fulgore 06-12-2017 02:22 PM

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Posted by Ashur (Post 786536)
This is you saving nerves? you need to relax bro. Im all for sparring in the open rooms if this does happen, Im not cryin about a damn thing. There should be (idevice/android) room and (pc/mac) room.. Its about choice. You against freedom?

segregation = freedom

nice


Giving bad players the option to run away from good players is stupid. I thought everyone (with the exception of actual idiots) stopped using device as an excuse 2 years ago, and the stupidity is evidenced by the #1 singles sparrer being Sarah right now. The only people who need these rooms are trash, and enabling trash is never a good idea.

Comyt 06-12-2017 05:23 PM

don't get it twisted, PC players DO have advantages (strafing, overall processing speed) over mobile players, but they are far from unbeatable. i don't think the differences are big enough to justify having separate rooms again. also, since the sparring community has gotten smaller, i doubt anybody would ever use the mobile room.

Crono 06-12-2017 07:38 PM

time to play on pc like an adult

Ashur 06-12-2017 10:25 PM

Soo.. I played graal client servers from 2004-2009. Some of you were there the day we were mad excited for a new challenge on device. Now i gotta go backwards to grow up?

@fulgore, again im not against the open rooms. Segregation would be removing those rooms. i never said pc players were better.. its just an option to fight players with similar handicaps essentially.

@comyt, why yall think its because its so hard lol, its for fun g! Maybe sparring wouldnt have died and people couldnt boost with a bigger community in the rooms.

Thanks for the feedback, keep it rollin!

Colin 06-12-2017 10:54 PM

"mad excited for a new challenge on device"

If you've played since 2004 I'd hope that you wouldn't be challenged by people playing on a mobile device, nor is mobile sparring that challenging to begin with.

If GST is being turned into a single tournament then there's no need for separate rooms either and people are better off just facing any device.

Fulgore 06-12-2017 11:27 PM

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Posted by Ashur (Post 786591)

@fulgore, again im not against the open rooms. Segregation would be removing those rooms. i never said pc players were better.. its just an option to fight players with similar handicaps essentially.

segregation, by definition, is making seperate rooms for people with different characteristics

like the black vs. white schools etc.

Combining everything into 1 is called desegregation

PumaD 06-13-2017 12:40 AM

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Posted by Paddie (Post 786566)
Lol I didn't mean you, I got confused. I already deleted that post. Don't make a drama lol. Of course I don't want to know you, noob! I'm so special.

Only you did try to start drama.. lol. Really need to place bets on when you get banned for good.

Ashur 06-13-2017 01:06 AM

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Posted by Fulgore (Post 786596)
segregation, by definition, is making seperate rooms for people with different characteristics

like the black vs. white schools etc.

Combining everything into 1 is called desegregation

I never wanted only seperate rooms. My fight is for freedom of choice, not segregation of controls.. Taking away peoples ability to choose is called oppression, and i didnt need a dictionary for that.

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Posted by Colin (Post 786593)
"mad excited for a new challenge on device"

If you've played since 2004 I'd hope that you wouldn't be challenged by people playing on a mobile device, nor is mobile sparring that challenging to begin with.

If GST is being turned into a single tournament then there's no need for separate rooms either and people are better off just facing any device.

Sorry my english aint proper enough for ya. As far as a challenge goes, its easy for me to appreciate a game that takes me many years to get good at. More than 13k spars in and i still get sweaty palms on my little iphone5 against a worthy opponent(most people tbh). I wasnt aware that gst was being oppressed aswell. As the numbers die down on an old event it only makes sense. Was not the case with the dev room.

Pokki 06-13-2017 01:12 AM

sparring threads are so boring it's just the same people arguing over and over

Ashur 06-13-2017 01:16 AM

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Posted by Pokki (Post 786604)
sparring threads are so boring it's just the same people arguing over and over

And youve contributed to.. ??

Paddie 06-13-2017 01:18 AM

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Posted by PumaD (Post 786600)
Only you did try to start drama.. lol. Really need to place bets on when you get banned for good.

Why I should be banned? I'm not going to apologize for expressing my opinion. I wasn't talking to you and I don't know you. Not everyone is like you! Learn to deal with many different personalities, please.

Red 06-13-2017 01:23 AM

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Posted by Pokki (Post 786604)
sparring threads are so boring it's just the same people arguing over and over

Guess we better make for threads about the social and housing decoration meta for people like yourself!

(I feel sorry for idiots like yourself)

PumaD 06-13-2017 01:23 AM

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Posted by Paddie (Post 786606)
Why I should be banned? I'm not going to apologize for expressing my opinion. I wasn't talking to you and I don't know you. Not everyone is like you! Learn to deal with many different personalities, please.

I'll say a week. Anyone else joining?

Red 06-13-2017 01:25 AM

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Posted by Paddie (Post 786606)
Why I should be banned? I'm not going to apologize for expressing my opinion. I wasn't talking to you and I don't know you. Not everyone is like you! Learn to deal with many different personalities, please.

Ignore paddie and/or don't reply to her, simply an animal abusing troll who has never broken character and acts out as an idiot on purpose.

Paddie 06-13-2017 01:31 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 786610)
Ignore paddie and/or don't reply to her, simply an animal abusing troll who has never broken character and acts out as an idiot on purpose.

Jarace? Where are you, Jarace? R u watching this? Red is begging for a ban. Get a personality, that's all you need!

Agonee 06-13-2017 01:34 AM

Paddie I love you

Comyt 06-13-2017 01:59 AM

funniest part of paddie leaking her toxic behavior into these forums is the "Psychiatrist" under her name lmao... yeah, you need to see one

Red 06-13-2017 02:13 AM

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Posted by Paddie (Post 786611)
Jarace? Where are you, Jarace? R u watching this? Red is begging for a ban. Get a personality, that's all you need!

Just going to break my vow of silence to you to say I'm already banned.

Paddie 06-13-2017 02:21 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 786614)
funniest part of paddie leaking her toxic behavior into these forums is the "Psychiatrist" under her name lmao... yeah, you need to see one

lol Yes, that's my ideal profession. I'm too young and going to college soon. That's the difference between you and me, comyt lol.

GotenGraal 06-13-2017 02:30 AM

There should be a whites only spar room who's with me

Red 06-13-2017 02:32 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 786618)
There should be a whites only spar room who's with me

ur puerto rican :thinkign: god dam iilegal allian

Fulgore 06-13-2017 02:59 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 786618)
There should be a whites only spar room who's with me

Yeah those other races are faster than us, we need a room where these advantages aren't in play

Agonee 06-13-2017 03:33 AM

Lmao

Pokki 06-13-2017 05:13 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 786607)
Guess we better make for threads about the social and housing decoration meta for people like yourself!

(I feel sorry for idiots like yourself)

go ahead and enter my house and you'll see nothing

(i FEeL sORry FoR iDiOtS liKe YoUrSeLf)

Darkk 06-13-2017 09:01 AM

Turn the siderooms into practice spar rooms

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Posted by Colin (Post 786593)
If GST is being turned into a single tournament then there's no need for separate rooms either and people are better off just facing any device.

Stupid idea to merge tournaments.
-iDev players freeze literally every 10 seconds.
-PC players can strafe (if they are on the left), where as idevs can't. Even though not many PC players utilise this.
-The idev player base in the spar community would die.
-The majority of idevs suck vs PC teams or maybe thats just an excuse for them losing in practice.
-PC players are better in general
-Can't think of another idev besides me who has really stood out in a mixed GST. Partially because most idevices don't like sparring PC players and therefore hardly enter.
-The freedom of choice to decide which tournament to enter isn't hurting anyone

The pros for merging tournaments could be:
-More competition? Nvm, the same super-team of the best 5 players would win everytime.

4-Lom 06-13-2017 09:57 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 786647)
-PC players are better in general

ikr

Jimbo 06-13-2017 01:57 PM

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Posted by Sig. (Post 786512)
Bull**** idea. Just another excuse, why don't you see people like Sarah cry about PC sparrers and vice versa? Because they don't suck.
I used to spar on iOS before sparring on PC and I loved sparring PC players with my iPod - I would still do it if I wouldn't prefer Android.

Get outta here

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Posted by Ashur (Post 786508)
We absolutely need seperation of device and computer* in the spar arena. Its been said before and will be said again. Love it or hate it, this was easily the most populated room and created equality in player control. probably the wrong place to post this but foreal people lets get our room back!! Post thoughts below ��

You will probably not get this idea through tho, because a lot of people with no experience and no idea what they are saying, come with empty arguments

The rooms were better before, where you had the chance to pick whether you wanted to spar against a pc/idevice player. It canīt be denied that the pc players has more advantage with the extra speed, itīs just about how good they are at using it

Edit: Itīs also natural in tournaments that different teams dominate the tournament for a period, that should not mean that you change the structure of the tournament

Sig. 06-13-2017 02:01 PM

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Posted by Jimbo (Post 786654)
Get outta here



You will probably not get this idea through tho, because a lot of people with no experience and no idea what they are saying, come with empty arguments

The rooms were better before, where you had the chance to pick whether you wanted to spar against a pc/idevice player. It canīt be denied that the pc players has more advantage with the extra speed, itīs just about how good they are at using it

Just use your VPN as usual, it'll help you spar against PC players.

Red 06-14-2017 01:04 AM

how do you be a better sparrer if you refuse to spar against better players?

alexx 06-14-2017 02:27 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 786696)
how do you be a better sparrer if you refuse to spar against better players?

is that red tryna explain to the spar community on how to improve in spar?

Red 06-14-2017 02:29 AM

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Posted by alexx (Post 786700)
is that red tryna explain to the spar community on how to improve in spar?

yes

DoubleliftGraal 06-14-2017 05:37 AM

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Posted by Sig. (Post 786563)
I honestly don't know what my mother has to do with Graal lol.


.

Man was I talkin to you?

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 786618)
There should be a whites only spar room who's with me

There should be a "RebelliousNotAllowed" spar room who's with me

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Posted by Red (Post 786696)
how do you be a better sparrer if you refuse to spar against better players?

U boost ur spar record so that ur spar record looks gud and thus makes u look better, simple logic...

Saeed 06-14-2017 05:13 PM

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Posted by Red (Post 786696)
how do you be a better sparrer if you refuse to spar against better players?

It's not about who is better, pc sparers has advantages over idev sparrers. Of course every pc sparrer will disagree with splitting the rooms because it will be harder for them to get wins.


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