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Cooldog45 09-04-2017 09:44 PM

New nexus house
 
Love it, looks so great :D

https://imgur.com/gallery/HhOSd

Seriously though, I wouldn't spend 20k on this

SouthernZombie* 09-04-2017 09:53 PM

Inside should be arcade theme or atleast bigger...Just isn't worth 20k

Livid 09-04-2017 10:01 PM

Didnt even know this building had changed, can anyone post the old level of the building? I really liked it.

Aguzo 09-04-2017 10:46 PM

Always liked that house, cause it looks like a crossroad for 2 other areas (left and right sides)

Would be neat if the pixel and original one could let you connect to 2 other River Realtor houses you've purchased. Makes it feel like your own custom map. Could sell the original one with an (Upgrade) tag for 20k

HamStarr 09-05-2017 12:13 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 795246)
Always liked that house, cause it looks like a crossroad for 2 other areas (left and right sides)

Would be neat if the pixel and original one could let you connect to 2 other River Realtor houses you've purchased. Makes it feel like your own custom map. Could sell the original one with an (Upgrade) tag for 20k

I would love this, but that would kinda conflict with the whole purpose of guild houses. Maybe there could be a selection where you can customize a layout using the default/purchased house templates?

ZedFox 09-05-2017 01:41 AM

Please release the arcade as a house template.

LiA 09-05-2017 02:33 AM

Template seems kinda bland for 20,000 gralats compared to the other sold ones. Would've been nice if the pixel template from the day/night mini arcade quest was sold in River Realtors.

Ivy 09-05-2017 03:00 AM

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Posted by ZedFox (Post 795272)
Please release the arcade as a house template.

This

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Posted by LiA (Post 795276)
Template seems kinda bland for 20,000 gralats compared to the other sold ones. Would've been nice if the pixel template from the day/night mini arcade quest was sold in River Realtors.

Preach lmao

Aguzo 09-05-2017 03:08 AM

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Posted by LiA (Post 795276)
Template seems kinda bland for 20,000 gralats compared to the other sold ones. Would've been nice if the pixel template from the day/night mini arcade quest was sold in River Realtors.

This would have been way better than a re-skin

4-Lom 09-05-2017 03:16 AM

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Guys, it's a pixelated version of one of the other house layouts.
Too cool!

Rusix 09-05-2017 01:53 PM

I somewhat like this nexus house. However. I kinda feel that maybe it isn't worth 20k like the others. Simply because it isn't that original. Not much grass in it which makes it not ideal for farming. And is pretty much the same the thing as the base starter houses. Only difference truly is the trees at the bottom but overall is the same thing.

But I will admit. I do like open layout. No water and all trees. Which makes it perfect for open house combat as well as practicing PK methods. Ect. But would I pay 20k for this? No. Maybe 10k but 20k for a house that isn't really completely new besides a new I suppose you could say "retro" filter and just added trees at the bottom. And has no real effective farming use.

If it was more of an original design. I'd be likely to buy it. Even if there was no good farming use to it like some of the other houses.

Eugeen 09-05-2017 02:09 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795283)
Guys, it's a pixelated version of one of the other house layouts.
Too cool!

Not gonna lie, that looks incredibly ugly

4-Lom 09-05-2017 06:28 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 795318)
Even if there was no good farming use to it like some of the other houses.

This house has more bushes in the layout than any other? Maybe you're just not creative in building, but it is functionally awesome regardless of the bush count.

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 795320)
Not gonna lie, that looks incredibly ugly


Rusix 09-05-2017 06:42 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795348)
This house has more bushes in the layout than any other? Maybe you're just not creative in building, but it is functionally awesome regardless of the bush count.

Look at the layout of the bushes, opposed to other houses.then compare how quickly, effectively, and sensible the ability to farm would be. For instance the nexus retro house it's bush layout is pretty much the same as the basic house. You'd need to travel to each corner. If I remember from memory there is about 3-4 each corner. Opposed to the basic house with the water in the center with lots of grass, or the castle. Or others. It's a horrible choice for farming.

But is this a great house just to decorate, have fun it. Or settle out some house fights? Absolutely yes it is. But farming? You have much better options you don't need to pay 20k for. Infact nothing at all but a small 50 gralat fee to change your house at most.

SouthernZombie* 09-05-2017 11:46 PM

It makes me dizzy for some reason...?

4-Lom 09-06-2017 02:58 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 795351)

But is this a great house...

I mean I can understand you having trouble if you have less than 100 furniture objects and aren't versed in how the building system works... Maybe then you would have a gripe about the 'earning' capability. The layout is one of the most profitable original layouts... with additional bushes.

If you're talking about that crappy 'semi-automatic farm' thing that noobs are doing at the castle house with conveyor belts, they are wasting their time working towards repetitive motion disorders... There are much better contraptions to be made in other layouts with the same (or less) castle furniture which you don't have to jam sword 10,000 times in order to operate. Try the tropical island if you want to make something really effective for farming. Better yet, get a respawner.

Aguzo 09-06-2017 03:07 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795407)
If you're talking about that crappy 'semi-automatic farm' thing that noobs are doing at the castle house with conveyor belts, they are wasting their time working towards repetitive motion disorders...

The point of autofarms is that you don't have to look at the screen, and can enjoy your movie or whatever, while farming. Your method forces you to move around. That's the difference. You should provide an hour's worth of gralat gains with whatever you call what you do in your house in order to prove your point. I want to believe, but saying that it makes more, doesn't really show anything

The "most effective" method is buying gralat packs

4-Lom 09-06-2017 05:14 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 795413)
Your method forces you to move around. That's the difference.

The "most effective" method is buying gralat packs

Naw man. You assume I'm doing anything. I spend like an hour or two designing an engaging house, open it to the public... and leave the room. Maybe the gains are less but I have to push a button maybe every 15-20 minutes when the disconnect screen comes up and that's it.

Aguzo 09-06-2017 08:41 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795428)
Naw man

Watch out for that carpal tunnel man

4-Lom 09-06-2017 09:20 AM

Yep. If they catch that you can get ban :)

Aguzo 09-06-2017 09:52 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795436)
Yep. If they catch that you can get ban :)

4-Lom must be livin in the future, you can now detect objects across a user's touchscreen
This isn't one of your amiibos

4-Lom 09-06-2017 10:52 AM

I've used the same method on pc... holding down a key in order to maintain actions... but long ago. Within a few minutes I was click/dragged by an administrator. They can detect it... there's currently a band-aid fix in place with the 'are you still here' thing, but this kind of activity should be discouraged and punishable - it is detrimental to the game in general. People who are actively maintaining their idle position by holding down a button get banned/reset at times, so how come the farming is somehow reasonable?

And you can step off, Aguzo. You're the only one with an axe to grind here.

Aguzo 09-06-2017 11:19 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795407)
If you're talking about that crappy 'semi-automatic farm' thing that noobs are doing at the castle house with conveyor belts, they are wasting their time working towards repetitive motion disorders... There are much better contraptions to be made in other layouts with the same (or less) castle furniture which you don't have to jam sword 10,000 times in order to operate. Try the tropical island if you want to make something really effective for farming. Better yet, get a respawner.

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795439)
And you can step off, Aguzo. You're the only one with an axe to grind here.

https://m.popkey.co/ed94a0/LqpbG.gif

alexx 09-06-2017 11:45 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795436)
Yep. If they catch that you can get ban :)

???
People literally advertise there "auto-farm" in graal city for hours a day lol

And if your referring to aguzo using that magnet to use the sword button how can an admin tell what goes behind your screen?

Eugeen 09-06-2017 12:44 PM

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Posted by alexx (Post 795441)
???
People literally advertise there "auto-farm" in graal city for hours a day lol

And if your referring to aguzo using that magnet to use the sword button how can an admin tell what goes behind your screen?

He's talking about using macro's, which is against the rules opposed to just manually clicking while on the move pad thingies

Sir Travis 09-06-2017 04:07 PM

Kinda off the topic but...
 
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It's true, sometimes I wonder if I'm just playing graal with that drinking bird dealy

slyde 09-06-2017 04:42 PM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 795433)
Watch out for that carpal tunnel man

Just wanted to say, BRILLIANT!!!

Aguzo 09-06-2017 05:26 PM

Not showing anyone else the video, wouldn't be a nice thing to do to ToonsLab

alexx 09-06-2017 10:16 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 795443)
He's talking about using macro's, which is against the rules opposed to just manually clicking while on the move pad thingies

But admins can't tell that you are using something other then your finger to tap the screen? So I understand it's not allowed but hey can't really tell your doing it.

TGG 09-06-2017 11:21 PM

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Posted by alexx (Post 795499)
But admins can't tell that you are using something other then your finger to tap the screen? So I understand it's not allowed but hey can't really tell your doing it.

Manual checks, if they drag you and you continue to slash then you're likely afk and using some other means to tap the screen.
Same for PC users but I'm assuming there's also checks for the regularity of the button presses to detect macros?

Not sure how it's actually done, just making suggestions on how it could be done.

Aguzo 09-07-2017 12:36 AM

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Posted by TGG (Post 795508)
Manual checks, if they drag you and you continue to slash then you're likely afk and using some other means to tap the screen.
Same for PC users but I'm assuming there's also checks for the regularity of the button presses to detect macros?

Not sure how it's actually done, just making suggestions on how it could be done.

- How consistent your tap/press is
- Do you keep clicking/tapping in same place
- How long have you been repeating the same action
- Tapping/Clicking faster than humanly possible

I was dragged maybe 2 weeks ago, and didn't use anything except thumbs
I was also messaging people about testing macros/autoclickers to see if they would bite, so it looks like they mostly monitor users, before they jump to conclusions

People get caught when they are too consistent, that's my guess

Lockdown 09-07-2017 01:49 AM

wew lad...haven't been on here in over a year. how's everybody doin

Rusix 09-07-2017 01:54 PM

One thing I wonder about really auto farming and about everyone who got banned for it. How did an admin suddenly know this random person they never met is in their house farming? Because assumingly admins can't tell if your just farming. Unless they evade everyone's houses at random

And I also assume if the autobotter is smart in even the slightest bit they wouldn't leave their house open

4-Lom 09-07-2017 06:22 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 795553)
And I also assume if the autobotter is smart in even the slightest bit they wouldn't leave their house open

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSCthV-UsAAAYBd.jpg

It's almost like admian had super powers or soemthng :O

Rusix 09-07-2017 07:11 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 795582)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSCthV-UsAAAYBd.jpg

It's almost like admian had super powers or soemthng :O


Well assuming anything that detects specific repeated movement. That can distinguish between player and bot. And notify an admin that has never seen or met the person it's the most logical explanation especially considering how graal is made and scripted in general especially in terms of detecting hacking.

Red 09-08-2017 01:29 AM

4lom claiming to be best house builder ever! waht an achievment
u guys jus dont understnad decorating house is rly hard i even got rsi from dragging furniture around so damn hrad lol

Eugeen 09-08-2017 01:42 AM

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Posted by alexx (Post 795499)
But admins can't tell that you are using something other then your finger to tap the screen? So I understand it's not allowed but hey can't really tell your doing it.

They easily can.
Humans don't tap on the same exact spot for a hour

Most macro's get detected due to having patterns in their behaviour

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Posted by Rusix (Post 795553)
One thing I wonder about really auto farming and about everyone who got banned for it. How did an admin suddenly know this random person they never met is in their house farming? Because assumingly admins can't tell if your just farming. Unless they evade everyone's houses at random

And I also assume if the autobotter is smart in even the slightest bit they wouldn't leave their house open

It's alerted in rc if someone might be using a macro pretty sure

4-Lom 09-08-2017 02:57 AM

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Posted by Red (Post 795634)
4lom claiming to be best house builder ever! waht an achievment
u guys jus dont understnad decorating house is rly hard i even got rsi from dragging furniture around so damn hrad lol

You're the only one claiming I'm the best. I never said that, because 'best' house build is relative. Thanks for your admiration, troll :)


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