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BEH0LD iTz SAM 10-06-2017 01:38 PM

StarWars Battlefront 2 BETA
 
Open access BETA is now live.

First impressions from someone who never played the first battlefront is that it's pretty fun. If they have lots of customisation/ things to work towards to give the Multiplayer a life span then I think this will be a pretty successful game.

Aside from the graphics being amazing, the gameplay was pretty fun aswell. Each of the classes feel unique and different to each other, and have pretty interesting abilities.
The Heros seem pretty strong, i've only gotten to try Darth Maul but I went on a pretty high killstreak and lasted till the game ended the first time I used him. I think they can be taken down easily though if multiple people are attacking, but one on one you'll pretty much always win.

Jetpack trooper seems to be the strongest class in the game at the moment, it's just really good for high killstreaks. Only time i've really died as a jetpack trooper is against another jetpack trooper.

As for vehicles i'd still have preferred them to be spawned into the game empty like in the battlefields/ original battlefront. I haven't really used any but the gameplay is apparently better than it was in the first battlefront.

The current various rarity items locked to their supplydrop system don't seem to be too ground breaking/ p2w. Yea the higher rarity items give you an advantage but the amounts generally just 10-15% faster cool downs of certain abilities you can unlock the standard versions of yourself fairly easily

SomeGuy 10-06-2017 07:06 PM

Call me a nostalgia bummer guy all you want, but i wont enjoy the new one(s) because the older battlefront games were simply much better.

Admiral 10-07-2017 09:40 AM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 797888)
Call me a nostalgia bummer guy all you want, but i wont enjoy the new one(s) because the older battlefront games were simply much better.

How so?

SomeGuy 10-07-2017 10:01 AM

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Posted by Admiral (Post 797894)
How so?



Its pretty naive i know but whenever i played the new ones they just bored me so much whereas i'd happily play the old ones all day long if i had to. The newer ones just seem so different and don't have the same moments or enjoyment to me.

Admiral 10-07-2017 04:13 PM

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Posted by SomeGuy (Post 797898)
Its pretty naive i know but whenever i played the new ones they just bored me so much whereas i'd happily play the old ones all day long if i had to. The newer ones just seem so different and don't have the same moments or enjoyment to me.

Fair enough! I never played the original ones or even Battlefront 1 but have been really enjoying this beta that I'll likely pick it up on release. I don't even pay for games at full price anymore but for this I'll make an exception

imSupah 10-10-2017 11:22 AM



This concerns me..I have no issue with loot crates giving cosmetics only but when they give bonuses like this, the game has a P2W factor and it's already $60. You shouldn't have to have game changing cards in a f***ing loot crate system. It should be earned by progression. Not to mention you seem to earn the same amount of credits whatever you're doing good or bad and scrap comes in small bits from the loot crates and that's only if they are dropped due to RNGness. I hope EA fixes this but knowing their history it will probably be the same in the launch as it was in the beta. This microtransaction s**t is just getting worse by the minute and it's pathetic really.

5hift 10-10-2017 04:06 PM

P2W lootboxes?



Jesus, EA. You just couldn't help but try to milk more than the 60 dollar base price out of the game.

imSupah 10-10-2017 06:04 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 798039)
P2W lootboxes?



Jesus, EA. You just couldn't help but try to milk more than the 60 dollar base price out of the game.

Of course not. EA is honestly worse than Activstion but that's not saying much. Both companies are scummy pieces of ****. Honestly pisses me off so much with this microtransaction BS. Leave this **** to the F2P mobile games that plague them. Why do I have to pay extra in my $60 game? God, this dark age of gaming ain't getting any better. We already see this loot crate BS in single player games now such as Shadow of War.

Tyler 10-11-2017 04:01 AM

I actually really enjoyed the BETA from what I played. They did a lot of things right in terms of classes and the point system, but yeah the loot crate part of it sucks. It honestly doesn't bother me as much as it does other people because as long as the game is fun I don't really care. It's not too regularly Star Wars games are released nowadays so I just want to enjoy this one best I can.

5hift 11-13-2017 05:14 PM

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The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.
As for cost, we selected initial values based upon data from the Open Beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch. Among other things, we're looking at average per-player credit earn rates on a daily basis, and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course attainable via gameplay.
We appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on Reddit, our forums and across numerous social media outlets.
Our team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can.
Lol.

RyanB 11-13-2017 07:44 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 801113)
Lol.

Kek’d at the downvotes

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-16-2017 06:52 AM

Yea look, I actually found the BETA pretty fun and was looking forward to this game coming out but after all the lootbox **** has gone down, once again I will not be buying Battlefront.

The lootboxes themselves don't really effect me anyway, I don't really care that much about the Heroes, and the customisation options are pretty bad anyway. I'm a good player so the P2W star cards won't really limit me that much. That being said there is no way i'm going to support this trend as it's only going to get worse, even if my $100 doesn't seem like it'll make any difference.

Sounds pretty extreme but the level of success SWBF2 receives will determine how lootbox mechanics are implemented in games in the next 2 years, which would be a paid game using a F2P model.

Just sucks that these days any unlocks/ customisation is locked behind micro-transaction, just takes away so much fulfilment games used to give. If an item was hard to unlock, I'd be willing to grind for it knowing I will eventually get it, and feel some what accomplished when I finally do. With lootboxes the only outcome I get is feeling pissed off when I finally get the item I wanted, as it took me that long to get it knowing other people got it straight away just from being lucky/ spending money. I could buy one game and be satisfied with it for a year- now i'm bored of it after a few weeks because there is a paywall behind 3/4 of the content.

**** EA, and soz but DICE too. Battlefields probably my most played game series but I mean whilst the lootboxes weren't DICES idea, they could have at least added more customisation/ weapon unlocks to compensate that. 12 guns in the entire game? complete joke. Pretty sure BF4 had more than 12 guns just in the pistol category. BF4 is probably the only game that did lootboxes right.

Looks like i'm stuck playing COD which I don't really even like and only continue to play because I don't have anything else new to play

Eugeen 11-16-2017 02:06 PM

The game is nice, too bad they already messed it up with all that lootbox bs


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Unlocking All Current Content in 'Star Wars Battlefront II' Takes 4,528 Hours or $2,100
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/n...ont-ii-w511845

Rusix 11-16-2017 03:30 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 801408)
The game is nice, too bad they already messed it up with all that lootbox bs



http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/n...ont-ii-w511845

Does it seriously cost 2100 dollars to unlock everything? Speak about them bread getting skills let's get UNIX in here to have the new Star Wars game show them how it's done

John 11-17-2017 09:20 PM

Loving this game rn :3

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-19-2017 01:24 PM

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Posted by John (Post 801531)
Loving this game rn :3

pls don't encourage others to buy it. I think the game itself is good but at the end of the day, even with all the upset people if the game sells well companies will consider the business model a success and every game will be a service rather than a product.

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Posted by Rusix (Post 801415)
Does it seriously cost 2100 dollars to unlock everything? Speak about them bread getting skills let's get UNIX in here to have the new Star Wars game show them how it's done

could cost more depending on your luck.

MrSimons 11-19-2017 08:28 PM

Didn't EA remove all the P2W stuff?

Crono 11-19-2017 08:51 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801702)
Didn't EA remove all the P2W stuff?

temporarily to save face

5hift 11-19-2017 09:25 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801702)
Didn't EA remove all the P2W stuff?

Still doesn't remove the fact that you're going to be grinding your ass off for just one character.

EA is in full damage-control mode right now. Anything they do isn't for the benefit of the player, its for the benefit of themselves.

MrSimons 11-20-2017 12:17 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 801705)
Still doesn't remove the fact that you're going to be grinding your ass off for just one character.

EA is in full damage-control mode right now. Anything they do isn't for the benefit of the player, its for the benefit of themselves.

Not totally sure what you are talking about-- not trying to defend EA cause they are ****; but it really isn't that hard to unlock heroes, plus the game comes with a few already so I don't see what the problem is?

5hift 11-20-2017 01:08 AM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801710)
Not totally sure what you are talking about-- not trying to defend EA cause they are ****; but it really isn't that hard to unlock heroes, plus the game comes with a few already so I don't see what the problem is?

Some people already did the calculations saying that it would take an absurd amount of grinding to get certain characters.

EA did reduce the cost of unlocking characters but failed to mention that they also reduced the rewards of the game. So basically they didn't change jack ****.

Just because EA removed the microtransactions doesn't mean progression still isn't locked behind a BS RNG lootbox system.

MrSimons 11-20-2017 02:14 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 801716)
Some people already did the calculations saying that it would take an absurd amount of grinding to get certain characters.

EA did reduce the cost of unlocking characters but failed to mention that they also reduced the rewards of the game. So basically they didn't change jack ****.

Just because EA removed the microtransactions doesn't mean progression still isn't locked behind a BS RNG lootbox system.

So far I have only unlocked Luke; which honestly didn't take long considering how ****ty I am. So unless it legit takes like 2 months of playing everyday then I can't imagine it being that terrible

maximus_asinus 11-20-2017 03:22 AM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 801716)
Some people already did the calculations saying that it would take an absurd amount of grinding to get certain characters.

EA did reduce the cost of unlocking characters but failed to mention that they also reduced the rewards of the game. So basically they didn't change jack ****.

Just because EA removed the microtransactions doesn't mean progression still isn't locked behind a BS RNG lootbox system.

Something like 4000+ hours or $2100 or something like that. It took me 15 years to get that many hours on Classic.

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-20-2017 12:47 PM

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Posted by MrSimons (Post 801723)
So far I have only unlocked Luke; which honestly didn't take long considering how ****ty I am. So unless it legit takes like 2 months of playing everyday then I can't imagine it being that terrible

The Heroes were only half the problem. The starcards themselves were the P2W element people are complaining about. Whilst they aren't going to make a bad player good, they'll make good players basically unstoppable as they're just flat out upgrades from the default cards.

People were complaining about the heroes as it was just widely unethical to advertise luke/ vader in their trailers, and the fact that they're probably the most iconic characters available to then have them locked behind a massive barrier. Yea you probably unlocked Luke because of the challenge credits/ campaign bonus, but now that you don't have those to give you extra credits anymore you're going to be looking at like 30+ hours to get Vader. Your skill level doesn't even matter as all players currently have roughly the same credit earn rate. Skill only counts for how fast you finish the challenges.


Like I said earlier, and the reason many people are unhappy- it's not actually the game itself (SWBF2) that is the issue, it is the trend of ingame advantages, a full price game containing f2p microtransation systems. EA has ownership over so many game franchises, if SWBF 2 is a success then you can say goodbye to singleplayer games from any companies under EA, and hello to all games following a micotransaction system like their FIFA games. They literally made a statement saying they want to try and find the same microtransaction success their sport games get in their FPS games. EA cancelled a singleplayer Starwars game because it wasn't going to contain microtransactions and then closed the studio making it.

It might not be as bad in SWBF2 as this is a test, but if you just accept it and say it's not that bad, then when SWBF 3 comes out instead of there being multiple classes/ characters, they'll probably make you have to 'earn' them from lootboxes aswell. This won't just be for EA games either, other companies will look at how much money EA is making and do the exact same thing. The whole reason we even have this lootbox **** is because of people accepting them when they were first introduced a few years back when they weren't as intrusive, and have progressively gotten worse. All lootboxes do, is hurt YOU the consumer, by locking away content behind a paywall. You can say the game itself is good, but you should never accept the lootbox/ microtransactions implementation no matter how minor it is, or if it doesn't effect you because eventually it will.

Eugeen 11-20-2017 01:05 PM

Rumors say that EA stopped the microtransactions for now because Disney might have gotten a bit mad about them hurting the starwars title

BEH0LD iTz SAM 11-20-2017 01:52 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 801777)
Rumors say that EA stopped the microtransactions for now because Disney might have gotten a bit mad about them hurting the starwars title

That's literally the exact reason. Go to Disneys twitter and look at any of their posts from when the SWBF2 drama was going down and it's just people commenting to fix the problem.

Disney 100% would have threatened EA with revoking their starwars licensing if they didn't find a fix as aside from the bad image it gives Disney (who care a LOT about their reputation) it could also impact the sales from the new starwars movie. Unlikely but still.

I heard that the day before they made the change, the head EA guy got a phone call from Disney to talk about SWBF2.

What will likely happen is either
#1- they will actually make changes and make lootboxes cosmetic only
#2- they can fall back on the ambiguity of their announcement (not specifically stating what they'd change so they can't be held accountable) and just make minor changes like slightly reduce the p2w factor of the game, and re introduce the microtransactions at a later date when the drama has died down and they've reached their expected sales figures.

Hope #2 won't be the case, and there is a chance it won't be due to how important starwars is, but then again there is a reason EA has been voted the worlds worst corporation before

Vulcan Blaze 11-20-2017 02:03 PM

Anyone play this game on PC (Origin)? I need friends to play with :(

Sir Travis 11-28-2017 01:50 PM

They killed Simcity..... I can never forgive that.....

Ethacon 11-28-2017 02:56 PM

EA stands for Epic Assholes or Extra Autistic.

idk any other ideas?

Coco 11-28-2017 06:56 PM

I only really care about Sims and didn't they kinda butcher that in Sims 4? Pretty sure I vaguely remember a lot of disappointing stuff about Sims 4....but I also haven't touched it since it came out so I guess it could've change since then.

Nonetheless glad I can do my part in boycotting buying anything from EA since I haven't purchased anything since Sims 4 cause I literally don't care about anything else from EA except Sims... *cough*

Ethacon 11-29-2017 12:23 PM

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Posted by Coco (Post 802399)
I only really care about Sims and didn't they kinda butcher that in Sims 4? Pretty sure I vaguely remember a lot of disappointing stuff about Sims 4....but I also haven't touched it since it came out so I guess it could've change since then.

Nonetheless glad I can do my part in boycotting buying anything from EA since I haven't purchased anything since Sims 4 cause I literally don't care about anything else from EA except Sims... *cough*

lol.

My mom likes Sims too.

T1m3 t0 g0 play sum S1mz

Eugeen 11-29-2017 04:49 PM

Don’t they just milk money out of the sims by releasing what could have been DLC as entirely new games?

RyanB 11-30-2017 02:21 AM

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Posted by ethacon (Post 802390)
EA stands for Epic Assholes or Extra Autistic.

idk any other ideas?

i got scammed trying to buy madden cash on madden 18 wtf

Xenthic 11-30-2017 04:58 PM

There was a star wars game that looked and sounded like a good game by viceral (makers of dead space) EA canceled it. Battlefield 1 servers just suck and lag now cant enjoy it anymore it has put me off for future titles and hearing the backlash over battlefront 2 I probably wont buy battlefront 2 unless it becomes really cheap i just cant support a scum bag company like EA they deserved all the hate they recieved.

Eugeen 11-30-2017 05:09 PM

EA lost 3 billion dollars in stock value from this whole thing lol

Xenthic 11-30-2017 06:57 PM

https://www.change.org/p/lucasfilm-r...r-wars-license

Lol someone started a petition

HamStarr 12-04-2017 04:55 AM

we want to show players a sense of pride and accomplishment


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