Is NGS Still A Thing?
 

It's been in the works for a while now with the original deadline being missed by nearly a year. Honestly just wondering if this is still something that they intend to add to the game. It would be nice if fp4 and Dusty could update us on their progress with this every now and then, or at least tell us that it isn't going to happen.

no ;)

Bana (admin) has confirmed that the NGS project has been scrapped due to "it being in our best interest to focus our resources on more important aspects of the game, such as the 2018 Easter egg hunt event. He also confirmed that the GST's date was moved forward and he wasn't wrong

Keyword: ADMIN as in ADMINISTRATOR not DEVELOPER

"Soon..."

Question of probably a century... What’s first, update optimizing Graal for iPhone X or NGS?

The game is dead honestly, nothing to do, ngs is a hoax, towering is dead, pking is just boosting now, spar is boring and no one relevent bks. Might as well just afk in graal bank

Pretty true lmao, Towerings probably gonna stay dead sadly, And those who do find interest in sparring 90% of them you question how old they are and why they cause so much drama and act so immature. I also wonder who even BKs

Guys its already out... Have you not seen all the brazilian guilds with their guild items and flashy hats?

Fp4 would have notified us on that

The game isn't dead. It has a community of people who do several activities, while it is true that some aspects are outdated and that people lost or is losing interest on them, it doesn't mean the game as a whole is dead. The number of players (be it brazilians, roleplayers, house designers or "competitive" players) is growing constantly with the parts of the game with active staff are getting updated constantly (hats, furniture items, accesories) if anything, while it is true that the coding devs aren't active, the "competitive" community is as salty and pesimistic as they come over the little that they have left.

coco confirmed the christmas event, easter egg hunt event, and halloween event will be the same from here on. so... in other words...

THAT QUOTE IS FAKE

who even is that

You say the competitive community is "salty", but I'd say they're perfectly justified in being upset over the fact that the devs took away the only competitive reward system that the game had for towering, promising to replace it with a new and better system and getting the hopes of the entire community up that the game just might be rejuvenated in some way, only to have those hopes crushed and being left with no reward system at all, and for the most part left in the dark with no answers or comments from the devs. To call it being "salty" is to undermine people's legitimate grievances over the issue.

In my opinion, It isn't so much they are salty because there isn't a tower reward, It's just...they are salty no matter what, In towering if you lost your tower you got "LOL YOUR TEAM SUCKS AT TOWER TROLOLOL QUIT" If you took their tower you got a " LOL YOUR TEAM SUCKS AT TOWER NOOBS" The worst part is they don't even know who the hell the other people are most the time.

Spar is the exact same way, although in my opinion Spar is just filled with more immature people who would look at a new sparrer, who may even have a 13-40 spar score and will make fun of them for it instead of actually helping them because they feel they are "Too good" or "shouldn't have to " help new players. In graal sparring specifically it's like we got a crap ton of narcissistic people.
But I do feel they should do something with towering. Make it alive again.

Hats...! They took your darned hats... the nerve!
Almost as if there was no competitive aspect at all now!
Wait... there's more hats. Everywhere you look!
In fact, if you get started now maybe you can draw a hat and enter it in the annual christmas competition.

This just in... towering and sparring ruined because... lack of hats. No longer competitive because... lack of hats. Those complaining are impatient and were only in the tower for the hats.

to be honest though literally everything in this game is driven by hats so
you play events for hats, what do you spend the gralats you farm on? hats, you do daily quests and get gralats that you spend on hats, you win hats for nearly every in-game competition, every holiday rewards you with hats, etc.

so overall it's not too strange

imagine if they still let those 1k hats to be a thing, BFM would've over 20 guild hats right now.

If you want to be a snide prick about it, feel free, but surely you recognize that competition significantly deflates without some sort of goal or incentive to encourage it? Sure the tower hats were getting stale, which is why people were excited for a new reward system that would incorporate different types of rewards for all kinds of different competitive activities in the game, but even the hats were better than the nothing that we have now.

competition for the sake of competition only exists with a few people, most would rather have something to show for achievement, be it a hat / belt etc. 4-lom of course wouldn't understand this because he has yet to do anything competitive in his lifetime, aside from maybe fashion contests.

Shiv don’t waste your time talking sense to 4-Lom. That diva always being sarcastic and likes to provide nothing to this type of thread in regards to competitive play. The temporary solution they should have done was to leave only 5K and 10K rewards since that takes more time to achieve.

probably lol mental disorders are a luxury when it comes to an activity where you're rewarded based on time spent overall rather than efficiency

Except running competitions...

No I wasn't being sarcastic, I was pointing out that the same idiots who complained about 'hat chasers' ruining competitive towering and spar are now complaining about the 'competitive aspect' being removed when the only difference is that there aren't hats. And no need for name calling, jack-ass.

Absolutely. Imagine if there was an effort to restore balanced versions of some of the old content like weapons and magic powers... could be a lot more types of skills contests. After seeing what was implemented in the Box Fort, I am interested to see what kind of changes actually come to pass in the system when it arrives, and how much of that will reflect the competitive aspects of the game in comparison to the more social aspects.

The majority of mobile titles out there are heavy into the social 'sharing' of achievements... and in-game benefits as a result of said sharing, loyalty, etc. I hope that some form of these are also integrated.

Lemme answer your question with another question. Just how long did it take to change any system in graal classic? I'd say about 15-16 years. So thats the time u gotta invest to wait for this "NGS". Besides, NGS will probably cause so many complaints cuz it may lack in something. Thats y no one wud bother to release NGS, assuming that its complete(Which obviously its not)

Wtf are you on about? No one said anything about hat chasers. All we're saying is that we would like a reward system to be implemented for competitive activities in the game to make it a little more fresh. It would be nice to have a system in which people in a guild could do several different things to contribute to the guild's total points beyond just towering. Not really sure why you're conflating this with "DA GAME IS RUINED CUZ NO HATS HURR DURR". The game is stale and many of us have been playing for years, so when this was announced a lot of people were excited. To not see it implemented is disappointing.

4-Lom bro what dont u understand? i see u on every competitive thread being sarcastic. Listen up bud the problem isnt the HATS being gone its the fact that we were promised a better system and not delivered one. If you promise players a great new system that eliminates a flawed but working system players have complained about, you cant just take out the old system without having a new one in place. We’re going on 2 years no rewards do u really expect towering to survive that long? Come on dude i see you blowing gaskets over bug prices so dont say we’re mad about stupid hats.

I remember the same rage when the railroad was removed... took 2 years. Now it's better.

I’m actually saving up for a new house template from River Realtors. Not everything is hats for me. I'm sure there are plenty of players that don’t actually care for hats too. The purchase of one of those templates is rewarding enough. I will have worked hard and spent time for it. It’s an achievement and a reward.

Ok you got me, I'll add house fashion contests as well if it makes you happy lmao

That's pretty much all competitive play on graal summed up in general.
Not really surprising for online games nowadays though

Don't get me wrong, Yeah there is always that one narcissist in any competitive game, but graal there is like a crap ton, if anything they overrun th amount of actual people who realize it is a game, Even for the RP community there is people who think like a narcissist just because they RP better (Not sure how one does this but lol) that they are better than others,

Although I'm not gonna say I'm a people's expert or play too many competing games myself. But from ones I ever have played, Classic just has a crappy community with a lot of immature people, Especially for military, I know this one guy ( Not gonna tell you his name but if you ever know anyone from the military community you'd know him) where if he don't like you, You're instantly autistic. And he calls basically anyone he fights autistic. Supposedly is 17 but acts like a frikin 9 yr old for Christ sake

You said competitive. You were wrong. You do not make me happy. Get over yourself.

What all the "non competitive" people were trying to point out is, that even though it is true we may be sarcastic, you guys don't tend to get satisfied with anything you get at all, you tend to like to mock up the aspects of the game that other people like, mock the people that isn't "competitive" based on stats, and stereotype every single human being that does not have good stats. And i'm not saying we're perfect, but when you give someone the right hand and get bitten multiple times, i wouldn't blame any "non competitive" palooka getting a bit annoyed by these kinds of threads just because of how frequent they are.

Competitive people aren’t satisfied with new hats, when was the last time there was a reason or ‘reward’ for towering/sparring to keep it alive, the only time I can think of is when towers gave candy and the Majority of the competitive community liked that and said it was a good idea, but that was limited and now there’s nothing again!

Sure there is gst every 3 months but when gst is over, sparring turns stale and everyone logs off.
People are probably mocking non competitive people because they state things like “there is a payable event now be happy you can get more hats”!!! and the competitive side want hats, but hats that show achievements such as winning gst not hats you have to pay for.

To be honest, I have zero understanding for the opening of this new thread after I already resolved the issue on that other thread some time ago.

Perhaps it works when I put it into a multiple choice scheme.

Q: Someone in a responsible position made some blurry statements about an update of the guild system, soon afterwards the towering rewards were removed, then several months later someone posted two screenshots. Another several months later, nothing has happened. What do you do?

A) Blame the lazy and evil developers as if both sides had signed some sort of contract in which you paid in advance

B) Spread the horrible misbelief that the removal of the towering rewards has killed the game, even though by doing that they simply fixed a mistake they made which was to introduce rewards for hours in the first place - by removing the rewards, noob abuse has been reduced drastically and players are being encouraged to tower on the base of friendship instead of random recruiting, false 1k hat promises, blocking stairs etc.

C) Realize that the fundamental institutions of Graal - Chatting, PK, Spar as a special version of PK, BK as a way to fight without interacting, creating and uploading graphics - are working and will be working forever and you have been running behind an illusion that is supposed to give players the legitimacy to cry and go inactive with a dramatic 'This game is so dead' outburst

If I had to imagine the NGS has likely been postponed for awhile, or the work has been so slow that there hasn’t been any meaningful or exciting developments to share. But that much should be obvious. But I really think that it’s time to sit back and wait for it... we have had a bevy of threads asking for updates/announcements/comment/ect, but it should be clear that by now they have not had much of an affect.

I imagine that the developers did not have a great idea of how much work was necessary to implement it. If I had to guess it would be that it looked simple in retrospect and quickly ballooned into a large undertaking that would require more time than planned. It’s unfortunate, but as a player base we have largely been beating a dead horse when we talk about it. The same arguments, the same questions. I, for one, have been trying to patiently and excitedly wait for it. But after awhile you have to focus your time away from it if you’re that frustrated by it, because there are plenty of meaningful ways to spend your time rather than bickering about it, especially when the developers already know how everyone feels about how long it is taking.

Okay the game is dead on the competitive side, I don’t play this game for codeshops and stupid quests that really do nothing, yes the mod event to win hats was fun at first but it gets old super quick. Im glad theres roleplayers and all those others who advertise and **** but the “ngs” is for guilds and competition not for people who roleplay or afk all day, it is meant for something to keep the game fun, since 1k, 5k and 10k towering rewards are gone what are you going to do with towering? Brazilian’s have taken over the spar community, Bk is honestly nothing lets be real here

probably because you aren't staff and don't actually know anything about the situation and everyone wants an official staff response

If I had spent loads of time on the organization of a 'new era' ngs guild + website just to realize it was overhyped, I'd at first probably have complaints too, after cooling down everyone's mindset should return to the base of common sense though

"FP4 drank himself into a coma after reading these threads and we are currently waiting for him to wake up and finish the project." - Official Staff Response

It's more realistic than all the other theories +1 rep

Got the house

I’ve held onto hope for so long but I’m starting to give up like everyone around me has already done
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b5/5e/45/b...b025f9aa19.jpg

i'm not in this thread complaining + both the CD website and discord server provide usefulness way beyond the NGS

I was excited about earning guild points by killing baddies. It would have been great motivation to work on my stats knowing that it would benefit the guild.

Dusty: Oh hey I got a new idea on a better way to have the guild and towering systems of iclassic designed. Lets work on this, but before we get started, lets just do a completely unnecessary edit to the game and completely remove the guild hats system, because we are going to add a new one that we have 100% not started on yet anyway. Then lets just scrap it and not undo the completely unnecessary removal we just did.

XDA Developers not only consists of Android Root Devs, It also has to do with Game Developers on the Android Platform. Classic is Associated with the Android Platform, and any of the developers of XDA would say the removal of something does not occur until the new item has been finished, tested, and properly perfected to suit the needs of what it was designed for and to do. "The removal of present objects, before the finish of replacement, is a completely unnecessary and ridiculous minded act that may ever be enacted on any project of any sort"-Anixy794.

Still doesn't add up why the old system needed to end, when the new system wasn't even ready lmfao.

This game is dead the admins dont care

I'm coding the NGS through Discord

Dusty isn’t the only staff member in graal so you can’t really blame him by saying he made that decision when it probably wasn’t up to him. Anyways you missed-understood the point of removing the old system (1k hats), they didn’t actually remove it in the purpose of replacing it with a “more fun” system (NGS), you can say it was an urgent remove because of the problem it was causing (the recruiting method, the reward and....) They also had a deadline to meet, they planned to insert the NGS at the start of 2017 but unfortunately they failed to do so because they were focusing on other updates.
Even if they wasn’t planning to have the NGS as a replacement for the old system, I believe it was still right to remove the old system regardless if a planned replacement system was ready or not. It was just a terrible system... the negatives point in the old system exceeded the benefits and positive points, which basically means having this current guild system (without rewards etc..) is still better than the old system.
What I really don’t understand is why don’t they make a simple temporary replacement system for towering?? Till they’re finished with the NGS... no body in graal is asking for a major update, they want to have a perfect NGS covering all the competitive aspects of the game including spar/bk/pk and towering. Justttttt let the towering community have what they want, give them a simple reward for towering till you’re finished with your amazing “NGS”. I have suggested many temporary systems that can be developed into better ones but....
I doubt this NGS will come out in 2018 or any sooner, not even complaining about the fact why it’s taking so long since they have already explained why. I Just don’t understand why are they going to put graal in hell till the NGS comes out? It’s not like the temporary system will make everyone happy but it will make most players happy and more active.

honestly, taking away rewards before even implementing a new way to get rewards is pretty ******ed

Now tell me one person who would not have known that lol..