Gauging interest in 1v1 sparring league
 

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Hi all,

I wanted to test the waters and see if any of you are interested in a 1v1 sparring league.

Personally, I think 1v1 is a much better showcase of skill (it's more fun too, more bragging rights). I miss the old tournaments on the client graal that [to me] held much more prestige for individual sparrers.

So, with that said, if enough people are interested we would need to come up with a format & also limit the number of players. If a ton of people are interested, we could have a mini-tournament where you would have to "spar in" to see if you could even join the league -> to be determined.

These are my first thoughts & I'm being ambitious:

Again this is just a very rough outline of how I'm thinking of running it. Any thoughts, input, criticism etc. are welcome. If enough people are interested I will be looking for tournament admins, moderators, recorders, streamers, request a sub-forum etc. so we can get this up and running and bring back the 1v1 sparring community.

Your pal,

Brett's best friend Rygor

EDIT:
If you want to help (even if you aren't a sparrer), the most needed position would be a "Match Recorder," someone who is willing to witness and record all the matches and post them on YouTube, etc. We will need a ton of people to do this if the league gets big. 5-10 people minimum.

Even the sparrers themselves could record their own match if they felt it didn't affect sparring performance.

Current Sign-ups

1. Sun (Creator)
2. Rygor
3. Scar (Apostles)
4. Dante Alumni)
5. Megan (Holy)
6. Zideuric (Holy)
7. Shield (GSL)
8. Boom (Natural Skill)
9. Hazard (Creator)
10. PaeirusJenova
11. Kicko (Sage)
12. Brett (Holy)
13. Ars (cut3)
14. Bel (Cupcake)
15. Yuki-Mon (NoID)
16. D (Throne)
17. TeK (Solace)
18. Kobeaster (SNC)
19. Abel (Creator)
20. Fulgore (Alumni)
21. Skull (Alumni)
22. Deity* (WU)
23. Basgano Oregil(Prodigious)
24. Mike J. (Almighty)
25. Neptune (SNC)
26. Alex</3 (Sacratus)
27. Shad (Glorious)
28. Fabian (Stylus)
29. Crono (US)
30. Brandon (Holy)
31. DomiMamba (Depredador)
32. ria (Azteca)
33. Elijah (Nila)
34. Lyon19’ (Rivalry)
35. ryanb (hummingbird)
36. Heeble (Divine)
37. xConvict (Azteca)
38. *qtYami (Alumni)
39. Midnight Chill (CO)
40. June (Invicta)
41. Prime (Demigod)
42. Plyr (Ikiru)
43. Bananer(Universal)
44. Gease (Game)
45. Xanji> (Sleeper)
46. KoreanWinter (Blackout)

Current Sign-ups

1. Sun (Creator)
2. Rygor
3. Scar (Apostles)
4. Dante Alumni)
5. Megan (Holy)
6. Zideuric (Holy)
7. Shield (GSL)
8. Boom (Natural Skill)
9. Hazard (Creator)
10. PaeirusJenova
11. Kicko (Sage)
12. Brett (Holy)
13. Ars (cut3)
14. Bel (Cupcake)
15. Yuki-Mon (NoID)
16. D (Throne)
17. TeK (Solace)
18. Kobeaster (SNC)
19. Abel (Creator)
20. Fulgore (Alumni)
21. Skull (Alumni)
22. Deity* (WU)
23. Basgano Oregil(Prodigious)
24. Mike J. (Almighty)
25. Neptune (SNC)
26. Alex</3 (Sacratus)
27. Shad (Glorious)
28. Fabian (Stylus)
29. Crono (US)





F.A.Q

Q: How long will the Season last?
A: The season will begin January 1st and end March 15th. During this time, participants are expected to finish all spars with their opponents on their own time. March 16th, points will be calculated and March 17th will be the live twitch drawing of the brackets for playoffs.

Q: How much do I have to spar?
A: You will need to spar each participant in a best of 3 series, THREE times total for the season.
One best of 3 = a match
You must have 3 matches with every participant and you will have from January 1st to March 15th to complete these matches.
Win = +3 Pts
Loss = +1 Pts

Q: Can I refuse a spar?
A: You can refuse a match within reason, but multiple refusals to spar, especially towards the end of the season, will subject you to forfeit the match. You will lose 2 points and your opponent will gain 3.
You are allowed to refuse a spar if you just completed a match. Meaning, you don’t have to have all 3 of your matches at once if you don’t want to. This is perfectly acceptable, as we all have bad days.
You are allowed to complete all 3 of your matches in one sitting if you and your opponent agree to it, but each match will need to be recorded separately for documentation purposes.

Q: How are the matches documented?
A: Every match must be recorded, either by the sparrers themselves or anyone else who wishes to record. We will then upload the match to YouTube with uniform naming format so the match can be easily found and verified. Once verified, your points will be added or deducted.

Q: Do I need to join (GSL) or (GSL2)?
A: No, but you should. These are just guilds used as tools to help players find an opponent or match recorder in a faster manner. You will be able to look up your opponents in one place on the guild member list. Expect to see a lot more tags in the future and especially during the season.

Point system seems kinda weird, why gain anything from a loss? Wins might as well be +1 and losses +0

I am interested, but my issue is; you have gray hair which makes this whole thing sorta suspicious. Can we trust you to not rig it for BRETT?

Point system is in place to reward the active sparrers, simply because my 15+ years of experience has taught me people may sign-up and go missing mid-season and we wouldn't want them to be able to move on to playoffs if they weren't active.

It would most likely work like this:

40 people sign up
Top 20 (or however many we decide) in points go on to playoffs
Bottom 20 are out

The rules are subject to change for Season 2, as I plan to make this an ongoing league inbetween GST.

Dam I always thought it was silver. Brett may be too scared to sign up, as he would never live down losing to me.

You run the risk of not truly getting the best sparrers with an activity-based system

In the end, the points system will still reward those who have the most wins i.e. the best sparrers. Once it comes playoff time, the points will no longer matter and it will come down to if you're clutch enough to win your series to advance.

I will be creating a FAQ to address more issues, but currently I am aiming for the Season to begin on January 1st and last through March 15th. Everyone will have this window to finish their matches, and on March 16th we will tally points and do a live drawing for the playoff brackets.

can matches be live-streamed

Yes, in fact if 2 opponents or multiple people want to hype their matches by setting a time and date to have their matches streamed that would be great.

We will try to stream all of the playoffs, and definitely the finals. There is even opportunity for someone to review the YouTube video uploads of matches and stream those or commentate if they wish.

I’m down though the setup seems weird/confusing

ryanb is very interested to get rekt by tryhards

jajajajja 1940-2030 ratio

I wanna sign up. Just cuz

updated the FAQ and such for the 2nd post, will u guys msg me in game

One of the requirements is that you're above thallens trash spar tier. Maybe next season buddy

Updated to 18 participants.

Not too shabby for less than 24 hours, especially since I wasn't active for almost 2 years before a couple of days ago. Cheers.

I chose the third option anyways but I can't get into the game and I would probably get bored watching it anyways lol.

Man , that's a great idea good luck with that Sparring league , + There could even be Leagues for other things but yeah gj

mount racing league because horse races aren't hosted enough.

yea but that's a competition about the fastest mount, but yeah players could do that

rygor, register me up at Basgano Oregil(Prodigious)

done, list updated to 23

you forgot to add me, Mike J. (Almighty).
I messaged you in-game

Updated, sorry about that

I’d like to sign up for it if possible. So we play each person once in a best of 3 series?

You play each person 3 times across the season in separate best of 3 series if I understand correctly, AKA triple round robin.

Yes sir, exactly.

How do you want your name and guild tag to appear on the roster? (guild tag is to help me find you some time for the season to start)

Awesome idea. Hopefully this will encourage all the best sparrers to spar again. Sign me up
Alex</3 (Sacratus)

sign me up so i can go out round 1 bro

list updated to 29

exactly

Thanks Tek! So if 30-50 players join there’d be 90-150 best of 3 series, sounds fun!

Triple RR seems like a bit much to me tbh, double RR is more common/standard. Especially for a league of this size.

Anyways, if you wanna put a tag by my name to make me easier to find, go ahead and add (Solace).

i wanna join idk my name but i'm the leader of Hummmingbird


only logs on once evry blue moon

In regards to the league itself, will there be a league table that is able to be viewed by people that is updating during the event?

I also wouldnt go over 50 players for the league, or 64 as the absolute max otherwise people will be having to spar more than 1 person 3 matches a day in order to get them all done , and anyone who has to be offline for a few days may end up missing a lot of spars

50 was the cutoff number I was thinking about as well.

As far as a table, I'm probably going to use something like challonge.com for bracketing. It will have everyone's names in there and you'll be able to see the pts ETC

So yes :)

Sweet, looking forward to this

I won't be making the brackets until a few days before the league starts, just because I expect people to drop, last minute sign-ups, etc

tf I can't edit that 2nd post anymore for some reason.... RIP

Just repost the list. Dont forget domi told me to pm you saying he wants to enter

Updated roster to 34.

Can't edit the 2nd post so put it in the 1st

My suggestions in the order that I would do them:
1. Create a small team of capable individuals that will work out the logistics before getting started.
2. Create a format with initial rules and other important information. (rules will be added from problems that start to happen)
3. Create divisions and a match schedule that makes sense (like the nfl)(say A B C D and E are in the same division, they wll spar each other 3-6 times and 1-2 times with the other players)
4. Matches should be best of 10 series with sudden death for ties.
5. w = 1 point and L=0 (makes it much easier and it will have the same result)
6. Make the first 3 tournaments a month long and use them kind of like a beta test. This will give you some experience to improve the league.

They really should make a Spar mega thread here zZ

I really like all these suggestions/

The only one I'm unsure of is the best of 10 series for each match, since I'm asking for 3 matches total. Maybe improve it to ... First to 5 wins? Or best of 5?

The playoffs will be best of 10 for sure.

The League won't start until Jan 1 so we have plenty of time to make changes or format. No one has reached out to help with writing out rules etc, but I do have a lot of people who have messaged me in-game wanting to be match recorders

add ryanb (hummingbird)

I don't know how you are planing to keep track and inform the contestants of the schedule, but if you give me enough time and the info being I can do a basic sheet for you guys. All you would do is input the wins and points.

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There's a website called Challonge.com that I think we might use... what do you think of that?

Also, added you Ryanb

Yeah Challonge is pretty common for things like this.

brb vpn

Ya same thing I was getting at here:

I like the weird point system.. we gonna have to roll with it n see what happens for maximum confusion