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Adrian 03-22-2018 05:33 AM

New capsule machine
 
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Garutias 03-22-2018 06:23 AM

Honesty 10k for a spin is a rip of, make it 5k,

Fuchsia 03-22-2018 06:56 AM

10k seems pretty expensive :o

.Sasquatch. 03-22-2018 07:42 AM

10k is wayy to much

Garutias 03-22-2018 07:50 AM

This is the standard for items nowadays lol. I remember a hood at a nexus back years ago cost 50 gralats, and now look how overpriced things have become. Honestly I think they are grieving to milk itunes out of the poor kids playing. This is just sad honestly.

You guys need to re-evaluate the pricing of this. admins pls.

.Sasquatch. 03-22-2018 08:57 AM

where is this anyway 'm too lazy to go and find it

Ethacon 03-22-2018 02:13 PM

obv the prizes better be no furniture or food and stuff.

alexx 03-22-2018 03:12 PM

Not even a “half price for the first spin” deal lol

LiA 03-22-2018 03:38 PM

Still waiting for that rare item when you get all of the items in the capsule machine.. :sarcastic:

This is by far the worst capsule machine that has been released so far. The wing accessory items are nice, but they should've just released a shop or update the shop itself with these accessory items. The original concept idea for the capsule machines w/ the furniture/items were cool because you had to make an effort to keep spinning to get what you wanted. Hopefully they'll add back those other items along with their next capsule update.

Ethacon 03-22-2018 03:54 PM

are the only 6 prizes those wings?

Westbrook Graal 03-22-2018 05:07 PM

Sad lol

Eugeen 03-22-2018 06:01 PM

Too expensive for what you get but people are gonna pay anyways

G Fatal 03-22-2018 06:19 PM

Man needs bread

Yonce 03-22-2018 07:23 PM

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Posted by Garutias (Post 807725)
This is the standard for items nowadays lol. I remember a hood at a nexus back years ago cost 50 gralats, and now look how overpriced things have become. Honestly I think they are grieving to milk itunes out of the poor kids playing. This is just sad honestly.

You guys need to re-evaluate the pricing of this. admins pls.

its called inflation my guy

Heeble 03-22-2018 08:02 PM

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Posted by Yonce (Post 807780)
its called inflation my guy

There's no official economy in the game. Inflation does not exist on iClassic. The only thing happening is iClassic charging more per item than before. If iClassic had trading the inflation argument could be made; in this case it is simply wrong.

Yonce 03-22-2018 08:51 PM

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Posted by Heeble (Post 807783)
There's no official economy in the game. Inflation does not exist on iClassic. The only thing happening is iClassic is charging more per item than before. If iClassic had trading the inflation argument could be made; in this case it is simply wrong.

https://i.imgur.com/4QexUSp.gif
anyways... gralats have become more earnable than before with the introduction of the 24 hr quests, looting, bugs, and personal farms inside houses (im talking about over the span of the entire game, since thats what you want to talk about), but thanks for the super formal answer

Westbrook Graal 03-22-2018 10:49 PM

Also guys keep in mind that these 10k gralat capsule items are basically the old hats that used to be sold at this location for much cheaper. The only difference is they were "reshaded" but look worse.

Of course i'm kidding though. This is, like every other update, a major upgrade to the game by the developers who do no wrong. Ever. If they DID do wrong, they would correct their mistakes. But since I never see them correct anything, I have to assume they make no mistakes. I'm ecstastic rn, to the point where I can't even breathe because this update is so good. We don't need a new guild system. We don't need actual content. We don't need playable servers. we need to take existing hats, remove a few pixels, and resell them in a randomized capsule machine for triple the price. That's what we needed, and the devs delivered. I'd say I'm impressed, but i've come to expect that level of high quality content from this team.

Mount 03-23-2018 12:13 AM

I got the CARTI WINGS!

NoxPower 03-23-2018 12:22 AM

well with the money your spending on capsule machine you could be getting yourself a nice body uploaded. those muscle bodies are thiccc

Garutias 03-23-2018 06:10 AM

On my first go I got the worst one you could get...

alexx 03-23-2018 08:59 AM

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Posted by Garutias (Post 807888)
On my first go I got the worst one you could get...

Why’d you spin to begin with lol

Garutias 03-23-2018 10:35 AM

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Posted by alexx (Post 807906)
Why’d you spin to begin with lol

Graal is addiction, I have some form of disfunction

Slacky 03-24-2018 12:34 PM

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Posted by Garutias (Post 807908)
Graal is addiction, I have some form of disfunction

Graal may be addictive but you should see a scam like that machine from a mile away
seriously, the accessory isnt even worth 10k in itself, let alone for a random chance of getting the one you want

LiA 03-24-2018 01:34 PM

Can we atleast get a special edition bug net that sparkles, or atleast a new designed bug net that looks nicer for getting all 6 wings from the capsule machine? :rolleyes:

Adrian 03-24-2018 01:36 PM

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Posted by LiA (Post 808071)
Can we atleast get a special edition bug net that sparkles, or atleast a new designed bug net that looks nicer for getting all 6 wings from the capsule machine? :rolleyes:

That's a very nice ideea!@Dusty @Coco

.Sasquatch. 03-24-2018 01:37 PM

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Posted by Adrian (Post 808072)
That's a very nice ideea!@Dusty @Coco



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McCullough 03-24-2018 05:36 PM

Those capsule prizes aren't worth it. That hummingbird looks real nice, though.

Ariona13 03-24-2018 05:46 PM

New capsule machine
 
It’s too expensive and I wouldn’t spend any iTunes on it tbh you can tell how little work went into the hats but the mount is nice still not worth iTunes tho [emoji52]


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MJ4 03-25-2018 01:01 AM

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Posted by McCullough (Post 808095)
Those capsule prizes aren't worth it. That hummingbird looks real nice, though.

Yeah it looks nice. Those wings are expensive af. Might as well make the hummingbird cost 50k cuz it can fly over water.

Garutias 03-25-2018 01:29 AM

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Posted by Slacky (Post 808064)
Graal may be addictive but you should see a scam like that machine from a mile away
seriously, the accessory isnt even worth 10k in itself, let alone for a random chance of getting the one you want

There were some good ones in the machine and i went for it

Westbrook Graal 03-25-2018 04:05 AM

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Posted by Garutias (Post 808155)
There were some good ones in the machine and i went for it

The 2500 pack is 0.99 which is essentially 1 dollar. 2.5k x 4=10k. It would take 4 gralat packs (of the 2500 variant) to get the 10k for the capsule spin. The 1 dollar multiplied by the 4 packs you'd need is 4usd, give or take a few cents.

Every time you spin that capsule machine, you're paying 4 bucks for a random chance at an item you might not even want. Or if you do bounty daily, 10 days of work (a week and 3 days.) Lets say you take 30 minutes per bounty on average, thats 300 minutes. Thats about 5 hours.

Every time you spin that capsule machine, you're either paying about 4 dollars, 5 hours of your time, or a mix of both to get a randomized item you might not even want and gives no gameplay bonus besides a somewhat awkward .gif effect.

To put this into further perspective, if the 4 dollars makes the same value in gralats as the 5 hours of working on bounty/farming, then one hour of your work on stuff is equal to less then a dollar in game currency value. Correct me if i'm wrong please.

I took the time to actually check out how many items were in the capsule machine. Theres 6 items you can get from a capsule machine. Thats 1/6. and if i'm not mistaken, thats about a 16.66% chance you pull the item you want.

To recap, you're paying either 4 dollars or 5 hours of your time (a mix of both maybe) for a 16.66% chance at a purely cosmetic item that used to be like 2.5k and got a .gif effect and was added to this new capsule machine. All of this in a game where foreigners have delayed hitboxes, servers lag so bad you can't load profiles, and there's been no guild rewards system for around 2 years because theres been a new one "almost done." (for 2 years.)
All of this because you have this "graal addiction." Get ur **** together lol

Garutias 03-25-2018 05:30 AM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 808178)
The 2500 pack is 0.99 which is essentially 1 dollar. 2.5k x 4=10k. It would take 4 gralat packs (of the 2500 variant) to get the 10k for the capsule spin. The 1 dollar multiplied by the 4 packs you'd need is 4usd, give or take a few cents.

Every time you spin that capsule machine, you're paying 4 bucks for a random chance at an item you might not even want. Or if you do bounty daily, 10 days of work (a week and 3 days.) Lets say you take 30 minutes per bounty on average, thats 300 minutes. Thats about 5 hours.

Every time you spin that capsule machine, you're either paying about 4 dollars, 5 hours of your time, or a mix of both to get a randomized item you might not even want and gives no gameplay bonus besides a somewhat awkward .gif effect.

To put this into further perspective, if the 4 dollars makes the same value in gralats as the 5 hours of working on bounty/farming, then one hour of your work on stuff is equal to less then a dollar in game currency value. Correct me if i'm wrong please.

I took the time to actually check out how many items were in the capsule machine. Theres 6 items you can get from a capsule machine. Thats 1/6. and if i'm not mistaken, thats about a 16.66% chance you pull the item you want.

To recap, you're paying either 4 dollars or 5 hours of your time (a mix of both maybe) for a 16.66% chance at a purely cosmetic item that used to be like 2.5k and got a .gif effect and was added to this new capsule machine. All of this in a game where foreigners have delayed hitboxes, servers lag so bad you can't load profiles, and there's been no guild rewards system for around 2 years because theres been a new one "almost done." (for 2 years.)
All of this because you have this "graal addiction." Get ur **** together lol

lol graal is my social life. I’m at the bottom of my class now because I spend 8+ hours a day on this ****ty game. Pls help me

Westbrook Graal 03-25-2018 02:11 PM

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Posted by Garutias (Post 808188)
lol graal is my social life. I’m at the bottom of my class now because I spend 8+ hours a day on this ****ty game. Pls help me

Try heroin you'll atleast meet some people and get outside irl shooting up hard drugs

Garutias 03-25-2018 10:04 PM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 808232)
Try heroin you'll atleast meet some people and get outside irl shooting up hard drugs

lol I will try it

Master Shredder 03-29-2018 08:29 AM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 807824)
Also guys keep in mind that these 10k gralat capsule items are basically the old hats that used to be sold at this location for much cheaper. The only difference is they were "reshaded" but look worse.

Of course i'm kidding though. This is, like every other update, a major upgrade to the game by the developers who do no wrong. Ever. If they DID do wrong, they would correct their mistakes. But since I never see them correct anything, I have to assume they make no mistakes. I'm ecstastic rn, to the point where I can't even breathe because this update is so good. We don't need a new guild system. We don't need actual content. We don't need playable servers. we need to take existing hats, remove a few pixels, and resell them in a randomized capsule machine for triple the price. That's what we needed, and the devs delivered. I'd say I'm impressed, but i've come to expect that level of high quality content from this team.

You deserve a gold star

4-Lom 03-31-2018 01:31 PM

"Waaah we want new content"

"New content takes time"

"Why are they releasing hats and accessories? Aren't they working on new content?"

"Only some artists are required for content - tilesets, NPCs, and other odds and ends have less time requirement than the coding."

"Waah we want new content..."

Master Shredder 03-31-2018 05:35 PM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 808603)
"Waaah we want new content"

"New content takes time"

"Why are they releasing hats and accessories? Aren't they working on new content?"

"Only some artists are required for content - tilesets, NPCs, and other odds and ends have less time requirement than the coding."

"Waah we want new content..."

coding actually does not take time at all. The developer or coder whoever in charge of it isn't doing their job. Just because their volunteer staff they still have to do the job right otherwise give it up and let us do it.

Master Shredder 04-06-2018 04:55 PM

Because there is no point in taking up space in a Limited Allowed Amount of Volunteer job. This isn't volunteering to build a charital trust which takes thousands of people. THis is the Volunteering to do something so you can get something free or receive said reward for volunteering which usually limits the amount of volunteers meaning you better be doing it right.

Rusix 04-06-2018 05:49 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 808618)
coding actually does not take time at all. The developer or coder whoever in charge of it isn't doing their job. Just because their volunteer staff they still have to do the job right otherwise give it up and let us do it.

Fact-^

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 808178)
The 2500 pack is 0.99 which is essentially 1 dollar. 2.5k x 4=10k. It would take 4 gralat packs (of the 2500 variant) to get the 10k for the capsule spin. The 1 dollar multiplied by the 4 packs you'd need is 4usd, give or take a few cents.

Every time you spin that capsule machine, you're paying 4 bucks for a random chance at an item you might not even want. Or if you do bounty daily, 10 days of work (a week and 3 days.) Lets say you take 30 minutes per bounty on average, thats 300 minutes. Thats about 5 hours.

Every time you spin that capsule machine, you're either paying about 4 dollars, 5 hours of your time, or a mix of both to get a randomized item you might not even want and gives no gameplay bonus besides a somewhat awkward .gif effect.

To put this into further perspective, if the 4 dollars makes the same value in gralats as the 5 hours of working on bounty/farming, then one hour of your work on stuff is equal to less then a dollar in game currency value. Correct me if i'm wrong please.

I took the time to actually check out how many items were in the capsule machine. Theres 6 items you can get from a capsule machine. Thats 1/6. and if i'm not mistaken, thats about a 16.66% chance you pull the item you want.

To recap, you're paying either 4 dollars or 5 hours of your time (a mix of both maybe) for a 16.66% chance at a purely cosmetic item that used to be like 2.5k and got a .gif effect and was added to this new capsule machine. All of this in a game where foreigners have delayed hitboxes, servers lag so bad you can't load profiles, and there's been no guild rewards system for around 2 years because theres been a new one "almost done." (for 2 years.)
All of this because you have this "graal addiction." Get ur **** together lol

That's how they make their gralats, Have kids with literally no life ( Not trying to be offensive, But in literal term just kids who basically have close or if not all day, every day to do what they want) and have them work for hours on end. To try and farm around 2000 every 2 hours. Kids get annoyed because for 2 hours of work that's slightly ridiculous. For 2000 you can get like maybe 1 table and 4 decent 250 worth chairs. Or a bunch of super cheap things from swamp town. All for all the gralat income vs time spent is slightly ridiculous. Which is why most people buy gralats instead of farming or looting anymore.

4-Lom 04-06-2018 07:17 PM

Who has any experience with actual coding for actual products in any mobile marketplace, raise your hands. Then explain why it takes a long time to get anything done while mitigating droves of complaints about the previous content that was rushed out on a deadline and/or produced by some one else with a less than complete understanding of the script or engine you're using...

Master Shredder 04-09-2018 07:18 PM

*raises hand*
 
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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 809059)
Who has any experience with actual coding for actual products in any mobile marketplace, raise your hands. Then explain why it takes a long time to get anything done while mitigating droves of complaints about the previous content that was rushed out on a deadline and/or produced by some one else with a less than complete understanding of the script or engine you're using...

I have an Understanding of GS2 in my own time sir. Thanks to Dan(previous era dev)'s information and my own time with player worlds. But still It doesn't matter how long it took or takes to code something. When I am going to change something in a server or game I have to of course test the compatibility and so on. But I Do Not Remove game mechanics I am going to replace and then start my work on the replacement. I first make the replacement then Remove the existing content.*Cough Cough*Guild rewards system removal *cough cough*

Sir Travis 04-09-2018 09:31 PM

Whoever made those wings should be very proud :) they look great and the animations are well done

Nglyeh 04-09-2018 11:47 PM

I don't feel bad for those who wasted 10k on this capsule

4-Lom 04-10-2018 11:26 AM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 809208)
I have an Understanding of GS2 in my own time sir. Thanks to Dan(previous era dev)'s information and my own time with player worlds. But still It doesn't matter how long it took or takes to code something. When I am going to change something in a server or game I have to of course test the compatibility and so on. But I Do Not Remove game mechanics I am going to replace and then start my work on the replacement. I first make the replacement then Remove the existing content.*Cough Cough*Guild rewards system removal *cough cough*

hack wheeze railroads

Master Shredder 04-10-2018 01:47 PM

Not even a code required issue
 
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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 809253)
hack wheeze railroads

That's not even an issue that regards programming, scripting or coding skills. The railroad works when you relogin, etc. Therefore thats actually just a server problem, either finding out whats causing the function to not load properly, or what would need to be removed etc. is what thats about. Unless its a script error i guess?

4-Lom 04-10-2018 02:15 PM

:unsure: damn I feel old suddenly. Was referring to when rr was removed for like a year with no replacement.

Master Shredder 04-10-2018 02:31 PM

sorry then.
 
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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 809262)
:unsure: damn I feel old suddenly. Was referring to when rr was removed for like a year with no replacement.

Well Im not that old on classic, But that is an exact example of what I meant then with the unnecessary removal of unreplaced game mechanics. This even includes the removal of Castle guild fort.(Even though i've seen the classic "storyline" in which pyrats destroyed snowtown fortress whch i guess can incorporate it's "removal")

Heeble 04-10-2018 02:57 PM

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Posted by Master Shredder (Post 809263)
Well Im not that old on classic, But that is an exact example of what I meant then with the unnecessary removal of unreplaced game mechanics. This even includes the removal of Castle guild fort.(Even though i've seen the classic "storyline" in which pyrats destroyed snowtown fortress whch i guess can incorporate it's "removal")

https://www.graalians.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=22
https://www.graalians.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=28

The removal of the Castle guild fort was a good decision. Fewer towers also create more competition. If anyone towers they know that the more contested a tower is, the more people show up. The smaller the number of forts, the better.

I apologize for the slight derailment, here. I needed to help justify the removal of Castle.

Master Shredder 04-10-2018 03:28 PM

Baddy King
 
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Posted by Heeble (Post 809265)
https://www.graalians.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=22
https://www.graalians.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=28

The removal of the Castle guild fort was a good decision. Fewer towers also create more competition. If anyone towers they know that the more contested a tower is, the more people show up. The smaller the number of forts, the better.

I apologize for the slight derailment, here. I needed to help justify the removal of Castle.

https://www.graalians.com/forums/sho...269#post809269

4-Lom 04-11-2018 04:58 AM

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Posted by Heeble (Post 809265)
justify the removal of Castle.

I tend to agree castle was a bit of a waste of space, but at the time it was removed, York fort was probably the most interesting mechanically. It was far from the other towers, but then, MoD was shifted to a new area at one point (from the woods) and this could have been treated the same way.

Snowtown fort... was a train wreck. Long empty tunnels, poorly thought out respawn point for the defenders... way out in the middle of nowhere... It could have had some tender lovin and become great, though. They all could have.

I don't tower competitively (if at all) but the innovative work at destiny and what was BoxFort promises new and exciting things for those who do.


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