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kenthefruit 04-20-2018 07:53 PM

IM POOR (but need a computer)
 
so my pet pig broke my laptop keys and yeah so i need a new computer.

i would like a "gaming" pc capable of decently playing some games. lol on medium-high settings, etc. (my ****ty hp pavilion notebook could play league medium-low settings with 100 fps). im on a tight budget because im poor and need to start saving up and have a car & insurance payment every month.

these are what ive looked at.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...75&ignorebbr=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HFDQ04UN&psc=1

tell me if theyre trash and gimme suggestions please.

I would like to stay between 300-700 dollars MAX, because like i cant even afford that rn. just tell me what to expect and what i should do.

Rusix 04-20-2018 09:45 PM

I'll be honest. I'd just wait a bit till you have a bit more money.It almost seems that you're looking for a laptop that has good Ghz from your description of wanting to play most games with medium to high settings.
If i was you, I'd wait a bit until you could afford this one.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HFDQ04UN&psc=1

It has a bit faster Ghz at 3.4 while other had 3.2 GHz, and from looks of it, It is a fairly decent gaming pc from what it seems and from what it appears should give you the desired quality you want.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...75&ignorebbr=1

This one though, If you're feeling lucky and want to save. get it, But I would be very wary of it. while it does have only a slightly lower GHz, the main issue I saw from this from the get-go is it is a refurbished product... I used to work as refurbishing, fixing and working with computers. I will tell you honestly that most refurbished products just simply aren't as good, And may have a lot of issues. When an item gets refurbished they usually just replace the parts needed and make sure it works. Which means in that refurbished laptop or pc or anything you buy refurbished, The people replacing parts may just "let" a few bad parts slip by "accident" if you know what I mean...

Though personally, I would like to remain with Razer products, i would try to save up the money so you know you could afford it.But you must have a PC screen and whatnot which i imagine you already know.

kenthefruit 04-21-2018 06:43 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 810085)
I'll be honest. I'd just wait a bit till you have a bit more money.It almost seems that you're looking for a laptop that has good Ghz from your description of wanting to play most games with medium to high settings.
If i was you, I'd wait a bit until you could afford this one.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...HFDQ04UN&psc=1

It has a bit faster Ghz at 3.4 while other had 3.2 GHz, and from looks of it, It is a fairly decent gaming pc from what it seems and from what it appears should give you the desired quality you want.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...75&ignorebbr=1

This one though, If you're feeling lucky and want to save. get it, But I would be very wary of it. while it does have only a slightly lower GHz, the main issue I saw from this from the get-go is it is a refurbished product... I used to work as refurbishing, fixing and working with computers. I will tell you honestly that most refurbished products just simply aren't as good, And may have a lot of issues. When an item gets refurbished they usually just replace the parts needed and make sure it works. Which means in that refurbished laptop or pc or anything you buy refurbished, The people replacing parts may just "let" a few bad parts slip by "accident" if you know what I mean...

Though personally, I would like to remain with Razer products, i would try to save up the money so you know you could afford it.But you must have a PC screen and whatnot which i imagine you already know.

So the amazon one is good for it’s money?

Rusix 04-21-2018 08:32 PM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 810164)
So the amazon one is good for it’s money?

There probably is even better for the price, But for the money between the two while it is more expensive it is worth it because it is new. And you wouldn't need to worry about the risk of it having had parts of running slower than told

kenthefruit 04-21-2018 09:06 PM

At this point I just need a decently nice 'gaming' computer, pc or laptop, for around 500-800 max and can play games on medium-high settings, with as good as im gonna get specs.

Kamaeru 04-21-2018 11:02 PM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 810081)
tell me if theyre trash and gimme suggestions please.

Those are pretty bad. You should be able to build something very adequate for within $500. Just buy the parts individually off newegg and build it yourself, trust me, it's easy and you will have so much fun doing it. Then when you're done you can say you built your own PC. It will be so much better than buying one of these. Especially the first one you linked.

For a GPU just get something like an Nvidia GTX760. They're probably less than $100. Will run GTAV in 1080p.

If you're not sure, you need these things:

-mobo
-case
-power supply
-CPU
-optional GPU
-hard drive
-RAM

that's it. if you have any hard drives or power supplies lying around you might be able to save some money. you shouldn't need to buy a third party cpu cooler if you're going with a low cost cpu. also honestly i would just go without using an optical drive because they are basically obsolete at this point. just install windows using a usb drive

kenthefruit 04-22-2018 12:02 AM

building a pc isn't really something that interests me, especially since I've been finding I can finance some computers which would be a very realistic option for me.

I just found this laptop,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

and would be able to finance it as well. The only thing is I have no idea if it's good or worth the price.

The Doctor 04-22-2018 08:08 AM

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Posted by Kamaeru (Post 810231)
Those are pretty bad. You should be able to build something very adequate for within $500. Just buy the parts individually off newegg and build it yourself, trust me, it's easy and you will have so much fun doing it. Then when you're done you can say you built your own PC. It will be so much better than buying one of these. Especially the first one you linked.

For a GPU just get something like an Nvidia GTX760. They're probably less than $100. Will run GTAV in 1080p.

If you're not sure, you need these things:

-mobo
-case
-power supply
-CPU
-optional GPU
-hard drive
-RAM

that's it. if you have any hard drives or power supplies lying around you might be able to save some money. you shouldn't need to buy a third party cpu cooler if you're going with a low cost cpu. also honestly i would just go without using an optical drive because they are basically obsolete at this point. just install windows using a usb drive

Building your own computer is fun, but it’s not necessarily cheaper. Manufactures have the advantage of buying parts in bulk and making it cheaper.

Kamaeru 04-22-2018 09:32 AM

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Posted by The Doctor (Post 810286)
Building your own computer is fun, but it’s not necessarily cheaper. Manufactures have the advantage of buying parts in bulk and making it cheaper.

The quality of the parts is low. If you build your own computer you can build something better than that $700 dell, and it will cost you $500 or less. Also it won't be a Dell.

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 810238)
building a pc isn't really something that interests me, especially since I've been finding I can finance some computers which would be a very realistic option for me.

I just found this laptop,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

and would be able to finance it as well. The only thing is I have no idea if it's good or worth the price.

If you can swing it it's pretty good, but it's not cost effective compared to getting a desktop. Mobile versions of GPUs are not the same thing as the desktop GPU 1050ti for instance. It might not run games as well as the cheap gtx760 I was telling you about.

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 810238)
building a pc isn't really something that interests me

Why? Installing the parts is just as easy as plugging in a SNES cartridge

5hift 04-22-2018 05:07 PM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 810238)
building a pc isn't really something that interests me, especially since I've been finding I can finance some computers which would be a very realistic option for me.

I just found this laptop,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...KIKX0DER&psc=1

and would be able to finance it as well. The only thing is I have no idea if it's good or worth the price.

That's a pretty good deal IMO.

Dell recently put out a new line of laptops packing the new hex-core processors.
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-...top/dncwgf427s

These new processors are considerably more powerful but will set you back another 300 dollars.

I personally would just save for the 1060 variation but if you really need a laptop that can pull its own weight and then some I would definitely recommend taking a look at this.

The one you picked out is pretty good but only because its on sale TBH.

Phantos 04-22-2018 11:52 PM

That amazon deal is pretty good in my opinion. You are definitely paying a premium for the convenience factor that a laptop brings (even tho it will be heavy) but that thing should game well and stay relevant in terms of power for quite some time.

That being said, don't stretch your budget too much. That is one of the cheapest gaming laptops I've ever seen but it's still a lot to chew.

kenthefruit 04-23-2018 04:07 AM

Thanks for the advice everyone! I think the amazon one would be a good option for me, I could pay it off in 5 months for $160 payments a month w/o having to apply for a credit card or anything like that either which is super realistic

kenthefruit 10-02-2018 02:18 AM

Help! less than 12 hrs and need opinions!

I got a $1500 loan today to buy a gaming laptop, here is the one im deeply considering getting tomorrow,

Dell - G7 15.6" Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 128GB Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive - Licorice Black
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g7...?skuId=6212435

comments ??

GOAT 10-02-2018 02:58 AM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 819209)
Help! less than 12 hrs and need opinions!

I got a $1500 loan today to buy a gaming laptop, here is the one im deeply considering getting tomorrow,

Dell - G7 15.6" Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 128GB Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive - Licorice Black
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g7...?skuId=6212435

comments ??

Doesn’t bestbuy have those 1 year payment plans for purchases of $1000+. Would save you the interest you’re paying if the loan was a nonparent loan

Rusix 10-02-2018 03:06 AM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 819209)
Help! less than 12 hrs and need opinions!

I got a $1500 loan today to buy a gaming laptop, here is the one im deeply considering getting tomorrow,

Dell - G7 15.6" Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 128GB Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive - Licorice Black
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g7...?skuId=6212435

comments ??

I actually own this exact laptop lmao, Got it a while back. But i would highly recommend this especially if you're into gaming, It is really fast and can play almost any game i had on it at really high graphics. Though i think the best thing about it is the display is actually really pretty and gets decently bright, Makes lots of games look much nicer, keyboard is also pretty nice, Overall i never had any issues with it at all. There may be better laptops out there don't get me wrong but in my opinion it's definitely worth the money

kenthefruit 10-02-2018 03:17 AM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 819213)
Doesn’t bestbuy have those 1 year payment plans for purchases of $1000+. Would save you the interest you’re paying if the loan was a nonparent loan

they have APR% rates as well on their financing. I got approved for a personal loan with an APR of like 10.7% so ill only have $150~ in interest

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Posted by Rusix (Post 819214)
I actually own this exact laptop lmao, Got it a while back. But i would highly recommend this especially if you're into gaming, It is really fast and can play almost any game i had on it at really high graphics. Though i think the best thing about it is the display is actually really pretty and gets decently bright, Makes lots of games look much nicer, keyboard is also pretty nice, Overall i never had any issues with it at all. There may be better laptops out there don't get me wrong but in my opinion it's definitely worth the money

Thank you! I appreciate the response, good to hear someone has the laptop and enjoys its capabilities. Definitely considering this one

--

On another note,

I just found an MSI GP63 on Newegg for $1499, maximizing my budget, but please give me feedback and comparisons and this laptop model as well!

MSI GP Series GP63 Leopard-428 15.6" 120 Hz FHD GTX 1070 8GB VRAM i7-8750H 16 GB Memory 128 GB SSD 1TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop -- ONLY @ NEWEGG
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...00&ignorebbr=1

The model is usually $1699 and is on sale for $1499 for 4 more hours, though my loan doesnt deposit into my account until tomorrow so I wont be able to get the sale, if the sale is still somehow running, is this a good buy? The tax comes out to about $127, but they also gave me a special promo code for an additional $50 off so the total for this laptop would be $1576

Ingrid 10-02-2018 04:57 AM

Idk asus laptop seems like the kind of laptop u would want to buy and the product by asus sell pretty much to be in a reasonable price and I bought one around for 500$ no complications and pretty good quality through my experience I've bought a phone and 2 laptops from asus brand and NO COMPLICATIONS WITH THE LAPTOP BUT when u go to the phone brand there's a lot of problems with it well through my experience like touchscreen problem but that doesn't matter because ur trying to buy a laptop not a phone

kenthefruit 10-02-2018 05:50 AM

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Posted by Ingrid (Post 819220)
Idk asus laptop seems like the kind of laptop u would want to buy and the product by asus sell pretty much to be in a reasonable price and I bought one around for 500$ no complications and pretty good quality through my experience I've bought a phone and 2 laptops from asus brand and NO COMPLICATIONS WITH THE LAPTOP BUT when u go to the phone brand there's a lot of problems with it well through my experience like touchscreen problem but that doesn't matter because ur trying to buy a laptop not a phone

do u recommend any specific? asus hasnt popped up very often in my searches

Crono 10-02-2018 11:48 AM

The MSI you linked is fine, it's a high end machine.

Emera 10-02-2018 12:46 PM

$339 for 120GB SSD but $349 for 500GB SSD. No-brainer. Loads more gigs for few more dollaz.

kenthefruit 10-02-2018 04:38 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 819226)
The MSI you linked is fine, it's a high end machine.

Is the Dell G7 not very good? Considering that one because I can go pick it up today. Plus the MSI is no longer on sale for $1499

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Posted by Emera (Post 819227)
$339 for 120GB SSD but $349 for 500GB SSD. No-brainer. Loads more gigs for few more dollaz.

Yeah I know PCs are better but it’s not ideal for me. I’m okay for paying more for the mobility

Emera 10-02-2018 06:19 PM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 819234)
Yeah I know PCs are better but it’s not ideal for me. I’m okay for paying more for the mobility

Fair. Just if you were getting a tower :)

kenthefruit 10-02-2018 08:16 PM

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Posted by Emera (Post 819243)
Fair. Just if you were getting a tower :)

I wish I had the space and will to stay at a desk lol or I totally would.

Crono 10-02-2018 09:54 PM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 819234)
Is the Dell G7 not very good? Considering that one because I can go pick it up today. Plus the MSI is no longer on sale for $1499

link the one you're looking at

kenthefruit 10-02-2018 10:13 PM

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Posted by Crono (Post 819253)
link the one you're looking at

Dell - G7 15.6" Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 128GB Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive - Licorice Black
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g7...?skuId=6212435

kenthefruit 10-02-2018 11:48 PM

ended up buying the
Dell - G7 15.6" Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 8GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 256GB Solid State Drive - Licorice Black
for $979
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g7...?skuId=6212436

was going to buy the $1099 one, but the only difference was the RAM and SSD. It had half the SSD and double the RAM, and i figured my SSD is much more important than the RAM size as I don't think I will use very many gb. If anything, I have 2 weeks to see how i like it! thanks for the comments

5hift 10-03-2018 05:41 AM

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Posted by kenthefruit (Post 819255)
ended up buying the
Dell - G7 15.6" Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 8GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 256GB Solid State Drive - Licorice Black
for $979
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-g7...?skuId=6212436

was going to buy the $1099 one, but the only difference was the RAM and SSD. It had half the SSD and double the RAM, and i figured my SSD is much more important than the RAM size as I don't think I will use very many gb. If anything, I have 2 weeks to see how i like it! thanks for the comments

Solid choice but I personally would've gone with one of their G3 models.

They have virtually the same specs but are much slimmer.

I also recommend anyone buying a laptop with a hex-core processor to undervolt the processor since these 6 core processors tend to run hot in these laptops.

kenthefruit 10-03-2018 03:11 PM

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Posted by 5hift (Post 819271)
Solid choice but I personally would've gone with one of their G3 models.

They have virtually the same specs but are much slimmer.

I also recommend anyone buying a laptop with a hex-core processor to undervolt the processor since these 6 core processors tend to run hot in these laptops.

From what I used it yesterday, I was pretty satisfied. I don’t imagine I will be pushing the system to its limits much if at all very often. I was able to play League of Legends on all the highest settings and stayed at a steady 125-150 FPS throughout every game for several hours. It didn’t get very hot either since league isn’t very demanding, but I bought a laptop fan stand for when and if it does get hot. Using the recommended graphics on the game I was hitting 250 FPS.
For comparison, my last computer hit 70-90 FPS on medium-low settings and would drop randomly even lower especially in bigger team fights. Not to mention just every aspect of the system is faster.

Plus it ended up only being $1k rather than 1500 so I over-loaned and was already able to pay back 1/3 of the loan!

Overall pretty happy about the purchase, any game recommendations etc would be appreciated since I finally have a system that can handle gaming.


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