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Westbrook Graal 04-21-2018 07:41 PM

The profiles were updated today, rather then the traditional bottom left stats and all, there's now a slider at the bottom of a profile which you can slide to a new screen with the persons stats. PK deaths, event wins were added. The PM and add friend buttons were moved to the right of the avatar where the item slots would be, and the original stat locations are now replaced with language, birthday, gralats, alignment, partner, online time, and gender.

Thoughts? I'll post screenshots later if no one else does. I think it's flabbergasting and stats look less cool now.

EDIT: Here's imgur links to both sides.

Slide 1 of new profile: https://imgur.com/a/tatMTmW

Slide 2 of new profile: https://imgur.com/a/MLJx2pw

Thallen 04-21-2018 07:42 PM

what's the point of even having the birthday field if you can change it (meaning that there's nothing given on the day set, meaning that it's kinda pointless)

event wins is something that should have obviously been shown since forever ago
showing deaths is beyond dumb and will only encourage a careful style of PKing and aggressive community attitudes towards it (only matters if you care though, which you shouldn't)

twilit 04-21-2018 07:42 PM

Woah, they finally added PK deaths? I hope they dont allow you to hide some of these stats.

The slider looks ugly; it could be just a third toggle button that matches the others. And the stats page looks so empty

Westbrook Graal 04-21-2018 07:43 PM

Quote:

Posted by twilit (Post 810168)
Woah, they finally added PK deaths? I hope they dont allow you to hide some of these stats.

Does the "status" area still look/work the same?

Yes. It wasn't updated.

Pokki 04-21-2018 07:43 PM

i like this update

Westbrook Graal 04-21-2018 07:45 PM

Quote:

Posted by Thallen (Post 810167)
what's the point of even having the birthday field if you can change it (meaning that there's nothing given on the day set, meaning that it's kinda pointless)

I would assume it's a placeholder for a future update. Flags were changeable in the past as well but were locked later on, I can only theorize that it's a similar concept. Maybe around the time of the next major update (NGS????) they'll implement a locked birthday you can only set once which gives you a unique item for that month and year.

Master Shredder 04-21-2018 07:52 PM

it's an A-Okay update I guess.

Zorma Knight 04-21-2018 07:55 PM

So basically this update copied era but with added birthday(?), but yeah its cool and weird at the same time.
But imo I think its better to replace birthdays with joined year, so that players can know what year they started playing graal :o (or maybe add that feature too idc)

haruka 04-21-2018 07:57 PM

The bottom portion of the player statistic page is pretty empty.. Implement a way for players to showcase their achievements here. (GST belt, Easter egg hunt, etc)
https://i.imgur.com/pcMWCk0.png

Ariona13 04-21-2018 07:57 PM

Quote:

Posted by haruka (Post 810177)
The bottom portion of the player statistic page is pretty empty.. Implement a way for players to showcase their achievements here. (GST belt, Easter egg hunt, etc)

https://i.imgur.com/pcMWCk0.png



That’s actually genius


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Rusix 04-21-2018 07:58 PM

Stats kinda look ugly in my opinion. Entire slider thing. And everything was just more simple the old way. Now it's like two pages. And some things aren't even like really necessary like birthdays.

Westbrook Graal 04-21-2018 07:58 PM

My full opinion on this update:
It's a step in the right direction, but hopefully some work is done to it soon.
Stats are painfully misplaced, example spar W/L is placed one on top of the other which just looks bad. Should stay a W-L format. Same with Kills/deaths.
On the note of stat misplacement, I feel like the stuff like birthday/marriage partner/alignment/gralats should be on page #2 and the actual stats like kills/spar wins should be on page #1. Makes more sense to have the second slide be a sort of summary of a player you can optionally slide on, rather then having to slide to get to the important stats that most of us click for.

As for the new messages/friend system on profiles, i think we'll get used to it. I like the old one better, just bigger and more fitting but I'm sure we'll grow accustomed to it.

As for my last concern, around GST time the servers get exceptionally laggy and it's really difficult to open profiles (they won't load.) So if we can't load one profile, I'm not sure how having 2 profiles in one will go especially when theres server lag.

Saeed 04-21-2018 07:58 PM

Showing the deaths is pointless specially when it’s under your kills. It’s lile you guus are comparing the spar wins/deaths to the Player Kills/Deaths. Which are completely two different things. You can literally Die at anytime including when you BK (when you BK the kills are added to your BK stats but when u die there is just one type of deaths..) Also, when you tower players don’t really focus on killing but they actually focus on defending the tower, which means dying doesn’t matter as long aa you defend the tower (that’s before ppl can see ur deaths) Another way u can die without killing is in events, not much to explain here. Probably 20% of my deaths came from me getting killed while moving in the map.
Having this feature that publicly show deaths is ridiculous, it’s like a KDA deaths to kills..


Edit: where is the arabic language on the list? There is a lot of arabs in the game.

Thallen 04-21-2018 08:13 PM

https://puu.sh/A7NTT/b46f6f4603.jpg

GST wins stat please, plenty of room and nothing else to do with it

Ariona13 04-21-2018 08:15 PM

This update is so bad it makes me want to cry! We must all come together and have #NoTearsLeftToCry on iTunes now!


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Raeven 04-21-2018 08:16 PM

Quote:

Posted by haruka (Post 810177)
The bottom portion of the player statistic page is pretty empty.. Implement a way for players to showcase their achievements here. (GST belt, Easter egg hunt, etc)
https://i.imgur.com/pcMWCk0.png

this

Riku* 04-21-2018 08:19 PM

It's......Fine.... I guess.....I guess...I ...have...to...get....used....to......this.....now ...

Dusty 04-21-2018 08:19 PM

Alright so we made this update with the full intention of gathering input from the players and getting ideas for stats to add to the second page. So if you have suggestions or ideas for stats let us know! Just be aware that there is no code in place to track many stats, so most likely any new stats will start from zero.

Right now you can change your birthday indefinitely but if we make additions that utilize it there will be limitations put into place.

One thing we were thinking of for example is having seasonal stats in place during that time of the season. For example eggs found during easter, candy found during halloween and so on.

Pokki 04-21-2018 08:19 PM

is the baddy streak how many baddy kills you can get without dying or how many baddy kills you can get in a day?

Ariona13 04-21-2018 08:20 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 810186)
Alright so we made this update with the full intention of gathering input from the players and getting ideas for stats to add to the second page. So if you have suggestions or ideas for stats let us know! Just be aware that there is no code in place to track many stats, so most likely any new stats will start from zero.

Right now you can change your birthday indefinitely but if we make additions that utilize it there will be limitations put into place.

One thing we were thinking of for example is having seasonal stats in place during that time of the season. For example eggs found during easter, candy found during halloween and so on.



Admin event wins would be nice [emoji1303]


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Dusty 04-21-2018 08:21 PM

Quote:

Posted by Pokki (Post 810187)
is the baddy streak how many baddy kills you can get without dying or how many baddy kills you can get in a day?

Without dying.

Pokki 04-21-2018 08:21 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 810189)
Without dying.

i’ve died twice and it keeps adding up.

Riku* 04-21-2018 08:22 PM

What does this mean?

https://i.imgur.com/fMrvSkm.png

Yonce 04-21-2018 08:23 PM

stat idea: total # of hats

Ariona13 04-21-2018 08:23 PM

Quote:

Posted by Riku* (Post 810191)
What does this mean?



https://i.imgur.com/fMrvSkm.png



It’s AP smh you BTS FANS xd


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Riku* 04-21-2018 08:25 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ariona13 (Post 810193)
It’s AP smh you BTS FANS xd


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U no like bts?

Also what if I can speak more than one language..Can I pick atleast 2 or 3

Saeed 04-21-2018 08:25 PM

Can we have a divorce stats so it can help us poor guys to avoid chicks

Crono 04-21-2018 08:26 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 810186)
Alright so we made this update with the full intention of gathering input from the players and getting ideas for stats to add to the second page. So if you have suggestions or ideas for stats let us know! Just be aware that there is no code in place to track many stats, so most likely any new stats will start from zero.

Right now you can change your birthday indefinitely but if we make additions that utilize it there will be limitations put into place.

One thing we were thinking of for example is having seasonal stats in place during that time of the season. For example eggs found during easter, candy found during halloween and so on.

GST stats would be cool, least wins

Thallen 04-21-2018 08:27 PM

Quote:

Posted by Dusty (Post 810186)
Alright so we made this update with the full intention of gathering input from the players and getting ideas for stats to add to the second page. So if you have suggestions or ideas for stats let us know! Just be aware that there is no code in place to track many stats, so most likely any new stats will start from zero.

Right now you can change your birthday indefinitely but if we make additions that utilize it there will be limitations put into place.

One thing we were thinking of for example is having seasonal stats in place during that time of the season. For example eggs found during easter, candy found during halloween and so on.

All of the guild spar stats (they're already recorded)
GST wins

Also wish you guys had an API available to get this stuff for Discord servers and websites, would be so useful

Fulgore 04-21-2018 08:28 PM

I second the motion for GST wins, important stat in the spar community

Slacky 04-21-2018 08:29 PM

I think the update is pretty interesting, I think the interface could use some work to be more appealing to look at and it feels rather clunky atm. Looks like they are still adding stuff to the profile menu as well, so ig stay tuned?

Colin 04-21-2018 08:29 PM

More gender choices and showgs stats would be neat

Maybe a Graal related graphic for the slider? Or like the Yin Yang or something comes to mind, circular and could make it look more polished/clean instead of the grey circle

Saeed 04-21-2018 08:30 PM

1k hats<3

Pokki 04-21-2018 08:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 810201)
More gender choices and showgs stats would be neat

uhh

Sawyer 04-21-2018 08:31 PM

Quote:

Posted by Saeed (Post 810202)
1k hats<3

I doubt there is a record of everyone who has ever got a 1k hat

Slacky 04-21-2018 08:31 PM

Quote:

Posted by Yonce (Post 810192)
stat idea: total # of hats

idk if this is a joke or not, but yeah item count stats would be cool especially if you add gst stats. Maybe get some stats for non-competitive players as well yaknow

Saeed 04-21-2018 08:32 PM

Quote:

Posted by Pokki (Post 810203)
uhh

Colin wants to pick the gay option

Quote:

Posted by Sawyer (Post 810204)
I doubt there is a record of everyone who has ever got a 1k hat

Yes there is.
The 1k hats in ur hats list lol? xd

Westbrook Graal 04-21-2018 08:32 PM

Dear Dusty. Here are my ideas for some new stats to add.
Career gs ratio
Career hits per game in gs
Average spar streak
Spars/PKs/baddy kills per day
Hours logged per day
# of hats
Shields uploaded
Swords uploaded

Thallen 04-21-2018 08:32 PM

Quote:

Posted by Sawyer (Post 810204)
I doubt there is a record of everyone who has ever got a 1k hat

Every 1k hat is prefixed with something like "1k_" in the filename (I don't know the exact prefix), would be incredibly easy for staff to find out how many 1k hats each player has

Not saying I do or don't support the idea, just saying it's 100% possible

Saeed 04-21-2018 08:34 PM

I was kidding about the 1k hats suggestion since u cant get them anymore.

Westbrook Graal 04-21-2018 08:40 PM

On second thought, i disagree with a showgs stat. It wouldn't tell the whole story, as often times at belle people go AFK or don't try. A GST only showgs ratio would be much more useful, for example "Career gst ratio: 1.888" (this would be mine.) However spars/kills/hours/losses per day would be extremely important. As would something like customs uploaded: or event win %

In addition, i've discovered a slight bug of sorts.

https://imgur.com/a/eanAejW
The text clips under the slider at the bottom and on the right (look at the words sitting and time).
I don't agree with fulgores status whatsoever, however this bug is important.

Saeed 04-21-2018 08:41 PM

Ya I have rather have a GST stats than gs in general

4-Lom 04-21-2018 08:42 PM

# of house likes (lifetime, not seasonal)
# of hats purchased/owned/won
# of furniture objects owned
# of mounts
# of friends on list
# of steps taken
# of guilds joined (over account lifetime... if data is logged on this)
# of admin cookies received
# of honor points... wait...


My main suggestion is clean up the menu systems in general.
The guild menu system (and friends list, etc) are ugly and don't match the in-game graphic style at all. Now with the odd font and peculiar choice of design (sliding menu?) the profile stands out even more as separate from the existing menu. I hope it all gets reskinned in a way that allows for a uniform look.

Maybe give those message boxes on in-game objects a once over too. That scroll effect and weird font stand out as well.

Thallen 04-21-2018 08:52 PM

# of times you've been flawed in spar

Yonce 04-21-2018 08:55 PM

# of times ur public chat logged "RP?"

Saeed 04-21-2018 08:56 PM

Actually number of times u flawed ppl is cool

Raeven 04-21-2018 08:57 PM

# of events hats won
achievements page (a seperate page for seasonal placements , easter , graal o ween , any misc events)
# of people married
# of times u got banned
joined date
kills/bks/spars for the day

Saeed 04-21-2018 09:00 PM

# of Loot gained
# of buggs caught
# of towers you took over
archery streak
^_^

Colin 04-21-2018 09:08 PM

Just checked and deaths are still counted when you lose a spar match.

Spar W/L should be kept separate from (B)K/D.

Ariona13 04-21-2018 09:10 PM

Profile systems were updated
 
Quote:

Posted by Raeven (Post 810219)
# of events hats won
achievements page (a seperate page for seasonal placements , easter , graal o ween , any misc events)
# of people married
# of times u got banned
joined date
kills/bks/spars for the day


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Number of times banned....


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