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Rusix 05-13-2018 09:43 PM

Hats turning into Accessory?
 
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Some of you noticed, Some don't but they are switching some hats into a accessory item. I assume all hats that was on the shoulder will be a accessory now.

Normally I wouldn't really care about such an issue. But it isnt making sense with some hats at all, Or accessory now I guess. I first noticed it with this below. For some hats that get turned into Accessory items like below. It messes up the side frames so they stick out more and don't really aligns the same way.

Secondly layering makes absolutely no sense at all. Since hats later over accessories. It just means if tried to wear a hat with the accessories that was a hat. Well you'll get the result below. Things like the admin horn and mask will go over it. Anything around the mouth in hats goes over it. I don't know any other hats that this has been done to. But I think they should better test it a hat should actually become a accessory because like the hood. Just doesn't make sense.

Also on a side note, Can the hood he switched back to a hat? Kinda looks ugly now. Especially since all the hats layer over it besides masks...Which also kinda layer over it

Zorma Knight 05-13-2018 09:52 PM

(Lol dam I was gonna make a thread but you beat me)
But yeah its cool that some hats are converting as accessories, but they should leave some as hats like the old hoodie from nafets since now you cant combine it with capes, so I hope they can switch back (but I doubt it cuz I guess its to late) :/

Yonce 05-13-2018 10:05 PM

is there a suggestion box for what hats belong in accessories

TeK 05-13-2018 11:24 PM

If you don’t want anything to layer oddly over the hood, you can just wear it without a hat

ZedFox 05-13-2018 11:38 PM

They should classify accessories into two categories, so you could wear say, the hood and a tail at the same time, something that I was able to do before this happened :(

Perseus 05-13-2018 11:52 PM

Would it be possible to select which layer you want the accessory to appear on? I mean, its done with furniture. I'm not sure how well that correlates to hats and the like, though.

Rusix 05-13-2018 11:56 PM

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Posted by TeK (Post 811901)
If you don’t want anything to layer oddly over the hood, you can just wear it without a hat

You could, But it doesn't look right anymore. Now the hood sticks out too much on the sides whatever direction your character faces.it looks absolutely ugly now no matter which way you look at it. Layering is broken. Frame is messed up looking. Ect.

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Posted by Perseus (Post 811904)
Would it be possible to select which layer you want the accessory to appear on? I mean, its done with furniture. I'm not sure how well that correlates to hats and the like, though.

There currently is no such feature, plus even if it did it wouldn't help with the frames being messed up and it sticking out so much.


I also heard another hat got turned into a accessory. I'm not sure why they are doing this, Because it just is messing up a lot of hat layering and frames

Kamaeru 05-14-2018 12:02 AM

poor attempt at competing with bomy island

Thallen 05-14-2018 12:28 AM

so what are you gonna do about my GST and 1k hats that are technically accessories

Rusix 05-14-2018 01:44 AM

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Posted by Thallen (Post 811909)
so what are you gonna do about my GST and 1k hats that are technically accessories

Well, I hate to break it to ya thallen. But it seems like you gonna no longer have those as GST "hats" But instead as GST accessories

4-Lom 05-14-2018 03:05 AM

Yeah... super disappointed here.

That rolled down hood hat was actually useful WITH accessories, and now I'll probably never wear it with a cape again. Sad.

Rusix 05-14-2018 03:48 AM

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Posted by 4-Lom (Post 811922)
Yeah... super disappointed here.

That rolled down hood hat was actually useful WITH accessories, and now I'll probably never wear it with a cape again. Sad.

I know, I personally feel it was never meant to be like a Accessory. Despite it obviously doesn't make sense layering wise. But because like you said, it was useful WITH accessories. If anything I'd even say Accesories looked more completed with it. Have a tail accessory like Zedfox? Hood worked with it. Have a cape? Hood worked with it. Have a bookbag and trying to role play in the school by wearing a hoodie? THE Hood could work with it. And much more....

Now it just is really crappy to have no matter which way you look at it. Most your hats layer over it. Even some mask do that had a mouth cover. The frames on the side now stick out a lot more and i got no idea why. It worked amazingly for a lot of things as a HAT, But now as an accessory it basically shouldn't even exist. Because everything layers over it. The frames are messed up on it now. And it worked great as a HAT that worked with accessories.

And does anyone else know any other hats that this happened to?

Eugeen 05-14-2018 04:39 AM

The only reason people bought those hoods was because capes fit under them perfectly lmao

Snow Noob 05-14-2018 08:18 AM

Currently at this time not many hats have been changed. This doesn't imply that GST hats will be changed into accessories and it seems like some big assumptions are being made here.

Your feedback is very valuable though of course, please feel free to post other hats you would like to see turned into accessories or even constructive comments on what you would like to see different on this. I have old hats I personally wouldn't mind seeing changed. Change isn't always bad.

Thallen 05-14-2018 08:40 AM

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Posted by Snow Noob (Post 811944)
Currently at this time not many hats have been changed. This doesn't imply that GST hats will be changed into accessories and it seems like some big assumptions are being made here.

i mean it's not like anyone would have reason to complain, if there are any GST or 1k hats that are technically accessories then it doesn't devalue them by turning them into accessories, i was just curious

https://puu.sh/AlThW/832c5c9023.jpg
this is a 1st place GST hat, dunno if it qualifies

Eugeen 05-14-2018 10:59 AM

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Posted by Snow Noob (Post 811944)
Currently at this time not many hats have been changed. This doesn't imply that GST hats will be changed into accessories and it seems like some big assumptions are being made here.

Your feedback is very valuable though of course, please feel free to post other hats you would like to see turned into accessories or even constructive comments on what you would like to see different on this. I have old hats I personally wouldn't mind seeing changed. Change isn't always bad.

Why don't yall just release them as new items, seems like the perfect method to milk more money out of users instead of ruining their already owned items

Rusix 05-14-2018 01:27 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 811947)
Why don't yall just release them as new items, seems like the perfect method to milk more money out of users instead of ruining their already owned items

They will probably do that

Zetectic 05-14-2018 06:38 PM

If they fix the alignment issues. I don’t see a problem, but an improvement

Captain Angelo 05-14-2018 08:31 PM

What the heck. Why did the admins or whoever ruin the hoodie? It’s been my go to outfit with my cape for a while now. Are they just bored and decided to troll

https://www.graalians.com/forums/att...1&d=1526326129

Westbrook Graal 05-14-2018 10:10 PM

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Posted by Eugeen (Post 811947)
Why don't yall just release them as new items, seems like the perfect method to milk more money out of users instead of ruining their already owned items

why would they miss a chance to ruin something lol

Rusix 05-14-2018 10:27 PM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 811965)
If they fix the alignment issues. I don’t see a problem, but an improvement

Except massive Layer issues. Name one person who wears a mask that is OVER the hoodie. Think of that logically for a second. Or you know any hat you wear at all overlaps it. Which is why it fits better as a HAT because of the layering

Zetectic 05-15-2018 01:41 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 811977)
Except massive Layer issues. Name one person who wears a mask that is OVER the hoodie. Think of that logically for a second. Or you know any hat you wear at all overlaps it. Which is why it fits better as a HAT because of the layering

not sure what ur point is?? don't wear a hood if your hat is a mask.

Rusix 05-15-2018 11:26 AM

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Posted by Zetectic (Post 811983)
not sure what ur point is?? don't wear a hood if your hat is a mask.

What hat could you wear? The only thing you could wear as a HAT that doesn't overlap is it like the old castle horns from what I seen. Anything else basically weirdly overlaps it. And closest thing to those you can get now is the admin event horns with the bandana. Except now the bandana will directly overlap on top of it.

All for all the hood is basically crap now. You can't really wear it with anything really without it being weirdly overlapping. Anything it would work good with is an accessory item like the capes. The hood basically is a lot less valuable now because you can't do anything with it. To be frank it doesn't even make sense to put it as an accessory, Accessories should be small things that wouldn't go on the head. The Hood would still be a hood which would be drawn over the head. Only difference is it is down

Slacky 05-15-2018 01:25 PM

is it just me or were the graphics slightly updated on the hood, I cant tell exactly.
also feels like the hood is slightly shorter on the side view, like it doesnt fit as well as I remember. Maybe thats just what you guys were talking about it being aligned too far forward?

Rusix 05-15-2018 01:48 PM

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Posted by Slacky (Post 812000)
is it just me or were the graphics slightly updated on the hood, I cant tell exactly.
also feels like the hood is slightly shorter on the side view, like it doesnt fit as well as I remember. Maybe thats just what you guys were talking about it being aligned too far forward?

I also kinda think it was shortened. It wasn't what I meant by the hood being aligned too far forward ( I logged in today and found they actually fixed that thankfully I think). But I thought it was just me that thought that

4-Lom 05-16-2018 06:16 AM

It has extra black space and has been shifted, due to the accessory template limitations... But of all the hats that could be made into accessories, this one was not one of them.

LiA 05-19-2018 02:50 AM

Are we able to help contribute in posting which hats we'd like to see as accessories? Or have the staff team already gone through the last 8 years worth of hats and picked out all of the decent ones?

Rusix 05-19-2018 02:41 PM

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Posted by LiA (Post 812200)
Are we able to help contribute in posting which hats we'd like to see as accessories? Or have the staff team already gone through the last 8 years worth of hats and picked out all of the decent ones?

Players never really get to help in these things. We can only sit back and ponder how the hell are things like hoods an accessory? Typically in any video game Accessories only apply to being things on the back and sides and maybe the front. Not things are represent it as a obvious hat item ( I mean it is literally a hood, The only difference being it is pulled down which SOMEHOW now means it's an accessory? Don't ask me how the hell that is supposed to make a damn bit of sense)

Heeble 05-19-2018 02:55 PM

The clown noses were added to accessories.

Bryan* 05-19-2018 03:24 PM

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Anything that has to do with wings, shoulder pads, headphones, eyewear, hats that only cover nose and/or mouth should be accessories. For example these:

Rusix 05-19-2018 04:51 PM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 812234)
Anything that has to do with wings, shoulder pads, headphones, eyewear, hats that only cover nose and/or mouth should be accessories. For example these:

Yes, these would all make actual sense as accessories. not things like the hood which should kinda obviously be a hat

McCullough 05-19-2018 06:25 PM

There are a few shoulder pad thingies listed as hats, and I think those should belong with accessories givin that they do not cover the head or face, only the shoulders. Anything else that does not cover the entirety of a head or face should be an accessory. I think those 2017 glasses, as an example, could be an accessory.

Layering and stuff won't be an issue with full helmets and accessories mixing because people will either go for a good look or a goofy look, and people do that in MMO's.

Rusix 05-19-2018 09:31 PM

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Posted by McCullough (Post 812246)
There are a few shoulder pad thingies listed as hats, and I think those should belong with accessories givin that they do not cover the head or face, only the shoulders. Anything else that does not cover the entirety of a head or face should be an accessory. I think those 2017 glasses, as an example, could be an accessory.

Layering and stuff won't be an issue with full helmets and accessories mixing because people will either go for a good look or a goofy look, and people do that in MMO's.

I'd have to disagree with the shoulder part. Because we'd be forgetting the hood for example. It's something that would go on your head. Only difference is it is down. So somehow that makes it an accessory item?

Also layering does have a big issue with it. You can't assume everyone will want it for a goofy look. You need something that makes sense that something would be over it.

A good example for an accessory would be the shoulderplate at the old castle. It would make sense for a helmet to overlay it.or a mask.

A bad example is the hood, Because not only does it not make sense that a hood should not be a hat for obvious reasons. But it only makes sense that a helmet would overlap the hood in the FRONT view. But during the sides and back it makes NO SENSE and would appear your randomly trying to curl the hood under your helmet. As for mask it also only makes sense unless it is small and only on the face. But for like the admin event horns and mask hat. It makes no sense because the mouth mask would be overlaying the hood. Everything overlays the hood at the side and back views which makes the hood something that obviously shouldn't be an accessory (Ignoring the fact that being a hood by default make it obviously not an accessory)

ZedFox 05-23-2018 08:34 AM

https://i.imgur.com/n3iYVXG.png
another hat that must be made into an accessory

Thallen 05-23-2018 08:34 AM

make these lips an accessory so i can flex 2 GST cosmetics at once

https://puu.sh/Arl8L/ba44a924de.jpg
https://puu.sh/Arl9V/832574efb6.png

Darkk 05-23-2018 11:31 AM

The white/red stripe 2013 xmas scarf hat that was converted into an accessory is screwed up on the front view

Ivy 05-23-2018 03:49 PM

What if they release a feature that lets you choose which hats to convert to accessories and vice-versa? Would be a cool vip feature and add a lot more incentive than just colors.

Rusix 05-23-2018 08:10 PM

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Posted by Ivy (Post 812407)
What if they release a feature that lets you choose which hats to convert to accessories and vice-versa? Would be a cool vip feature and add a lot more incentive than just colors.

Honestly I love this idea, something that lets you choose which is a hat or accessory as a VIP would be pretty awesome. I'd actually start buying VIP

ZedFox 05-24-2018 07:41 AM

https://i.imgur.com/sYiz9wi.png
damn it

McCullough 05-27-2018 04:11 PM

Remember those St. Patrick's day Irish glasses? They are now an accessory. I hopped online and I got a message saying, "A hat you own is now a part of the accessories".

I like it!

I kind of wish we could have more than one accessory on at once, though, because I want to be able to wear my glasses and beard at the same time lol.

Ivy 05-27-2018 06:34 PM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 812413)
Honestly I love this idea, something that lets you choose which is a hat or accessory as a VIP would be pretty awesome. I'd actually start buying VIP

Hell, I would too if I played more actively and still had tons of money to blow on this game


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