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AngelGraal 09-10-2018 10:07 PM

2018's Annual PK Discussion Thread
 
“Spar threads are the “Soap Opera” of Classic, can’t blame people for wanting a little cheap, explosive flame war entertainment”
-Sir Travis

“So yeah I may did/join riots like 45-55% that I got title Riot Queen...heh”
-Zorma Knight

“I did”
-Agonee

“You don’t ‘become good’ at pking”
-Colin

“Pk numbers are directly correlated with time spent pking”
-Fulgore

“What’s phase two?”
-fp4


Good day ladies and gentlemen,

Welcome once again to the Annual PK Discussion thread. For this 2018 edition I, Angel </3 (Beast Mode), 8-year long 420k (blaze it) pker, will be your host. Similarly to what was last year’s hosted by some amateur named Penguin, I will be presenting what I think is the top 25 pk list based on people who deserve to be on it. Again this is just my opinion, this list is not perfect (but close to it).
*The Twilight Zone (Alumni’s theme song) plays in the background*

1. Xenthic (810k)
2. Michael (735k)
3. Angel (420k)
4. Bryan (412k)
5. 7mood (402k)
6. Areo (384k)
7. EP (375k)
8. Proxel (368k)
9. TomTheTurkey (344k)
10. Devo (336k)
11. pibe jr. (323k)
12. Kosiris (313k)
13. Alchemist (304k)
14. Vexed (296k)
15. SabreKnot (296k)
16. Skye (277k)
17. Yurhomi (274k)
18. Shadz (270k)
19. Monica (269k)
20. TeK (266k)
21. Haze (261k)
22. Simple-Z (261k)
23. Elijah (245k)
24. Dark (243k)
25. Shadow (241k)

Notable mentions: Qwerty, Siber, Leo, Metal, Sigma, Lanky, Shazta, Lethal, iDylan, G, Stomper, Bart, Red Sparrow, Kaida, Roxy, Cherry, Mimi, Garzo, Light (french one), deadmau5 / Paul, GreenArrow, pkun, Chibi, Nitrex, SonJour, Alex, Kawu, Abel, Axel, Julia, Super, Vient, Shax, Ghous, Shiv, Ziggy, Jinzo, Silver, MeMo, Maemi, Blaze, Swoosh, Bu7maid, Agonee, Liz, Crono.

Special shoutout to Colin, Fulgore, and RedStar.


Thank you, until next year.

Fulgore 09-10-2018 10:10 PM

pk is not an inherently skill-based activity

anyu is the best by definition

gg /closethread

Zetectic 09-10-2018 10:23 PM

Xenthic 1m pk when?

Xenthic 09-10-2018 10:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by Zetectic (Post 818148)
Xenthic 1m pk when?



probably not, rather be doing other things.

Zorma Knight 09-10-2018 10:40 PM

Where's Astarte? she pk legitimately good then every pkers I known

kush420swagYOLO 09-10-2018 10:47 PM

I like Colin’s and fulgores quotes because they’re true. Deadmau5 is probably my favorite pkr. He has something like a 6-1+ kill to death ratio. For someone with over 100k pks to maintain a high KDR I thought that was pretty cool.

Colin 09-10-2018 10:55 PM

Didn’t know the most autistic CD member was also a TMZ reporter lol

You don’t become good at PKing because it’s a brain dead activity where you press the S button, when it comes to juking out your opponent then you start walking into sparrer territory. Given how brain dead a lot of PKers are though it doesn’t take any skill to move a square or two before pressing the S button again.

AngelGraal 09-10-2018 10:57 PM

Did yall see why I gave Colin and Fulgore a shoutout lol, I knew they were going to get triggered and start hating. so predictable, cupcakes

Colin 09-10-2018 11:02 PM

yes stating the same opinion you had in an old quote in response to someone randomly deciding to add said quote to their forum post is being triggered

quick someone mention how Anyu is #1 and that “pure” PKERS like angel who haven’t set foot in a mob (I’ve seen you in a few though Angel) or BUSH PKING aren’t above anyone who has in any way, because PKing is brain dead regardless of how you do it

super kurosaki 09-10-2018 11:05 PM

pking is dead but so is role playing in battle arena and people still do it so what are we arguing here

Colin 09-10-2018 11:11 PM

If Super Nick and Sister Gertrude had a child Angel would be the bastard son, which is what explains his hatred for “BA chumps” (anyone in the Battle Arena)

Kind of girly to have deleted his own post but what can we expect he PKs the same way

Darkk 09-10-2018 11:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by AngelGraal (Post 818146)
[CENTER]

Good day ladies and gentlemen,

Welcome once again to the Annual PK Discussion thread. For this 2018 edition I, Angel </3 (Beast Mode), 8-year long 420k (blaze it) pker, will be your host. Similarly to what was last year’s hosted by some amateur named Penguin, I will be presenting what I think is the top 25 pk list based on people who deserve to be on it. Again this is just my opinion, this list is not perfect (but close to it).
*The Twilight Zone (Alumni’s theme song) plays in the background*

1. Xenthic (810k)
2. Michael (735k)
3. Angel (420k)
4. Bryan (412k)
5. 7mood (402k)
6. Areo (384k)
7. EP (375k)
8. Proxel (368k)
9. TomTheTurkey (344k)
10. Devo (336k)
11. pube jr. (323k)
12. Kosiris (313k)
13. Alchemist (304k)
14. Vexed (296k)
15. SabreKnot (296k)
16. Skye (277k)
17. Yurhomi (274k)
18. Shadz (270k)
19. Monica (269k)
20. TeK (266k)
21. Haze (261k)
22. Simple-Z (261k)
23. Elijah (245k)
24. Dark (243k)
25. Shadow (241k)

Notable mentions: Qwerty, Siber, Leo, Metal, Sigma, Lanky, Shazta, Lethal, iDylan, G, Stomper, Bart, Red Sparrow, Kaida, Roxy, Cherry, Mimi, Garzo, Light (french one), deadmau5 / Paul, GreenArrow, pkun, Chibi, Nitrex, SonJour, Alex, Kawu, Abel, Axel, Julia, Super, Vient, Shax, Ghous, Shiv, Ziggy, Silver, MeMo, Blaze, Swoosh, Bu7maid, Agonee, Liz, Crono.

Special shoutout to Colin, Fulgore, and RedStar.


Thank you, until next year.

Decent list. I highlighted a few people who should be removed bc they boost/riot pk at chris kill em's

GOAT 09-10-2018 11:26 PM

Ewwww MoD PKrs.

90% of those are leaderboard PKrs :””(


BlackStarr = #1

Colin 09-10-2018 11:30 PM

BTW to grasp how weird/desperate Angel is, he tagged both Fulgore and I on discord numerous times to ask us to reply to this thread, so he could turn around and play the triggered card (because he hates all ‘BA chumps’)

pretty much on par with the sort of behaviour I’d expect from FOREX trader Angel

GOAT 09-10-2018 11:45 PM

Ewwww kulin

:D

Comyt 09-11-2018 12:03 AM

wouldn’t it also be “weird” to have pictures of multiple graal players saved in order to blackmail them and insult their appearance, asking for a friend

Colin 09-11-2018 12:05 AM

Yah spill the beans, this is a PK thread so we need other stuff to keep it worth reading, wouldn’t surprise me if Angel tbh

TeK 09-11-2018 12:07 AM

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Posted by Darkk (Post 818159)
Decent list. I highlighted a few people who should be removed bc they boost/riot pk at chris kill em's

I only ever bush pked at CK from like 16k to 20k, way back in like Feb/Mar of 2014. 1000% positive you didn’t know me back then. Have riot PKed a few times though, as pretty much everyone has (even a lot those who say they don’t, and some on that list who you didn’t highlight). If you really wanna call someone out who shouldn’t be on that list for a good reason, I’m pretty sure SabreKnot was known to speedhack.

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Posted by Zorma Knight (Post 818150)
Where's Astarte? she pk legitimately good then every pkers I known

The only reason Astarte is notable is because the quantity of her PKs, which is solely based on time spent towards gaining them. In terms of quality, she sucks.

The only top 25 PKer lists I’d consider legit is the quantity based one (the real one), and a quality based one (a list of sparrers with high kills, with a few exceptions).

Saeed 09-11-2018 12:40 AM

You gotta be careful these days man literally around everyone. I was walking down the street the other night and some big guy came to me and pulled out a scissors. I was so happy I managed to reach into my pocket in time and pull a rock. Imagine if I pulled out a paper?? I would have lost lol

Shaxx 09-11-2018 01:14 AM

Quote:

Posted by Fulgore (Post 818147)
pk is not an inherently skill-based activity

anyu is the best by definition

gg /closethread

You're dumb


Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 818152)
Didn’t know the most autistic CD member was also a TMZ reporter lol

You don’t become good at PKing because it’s a brain dead activity where you press the S button, when it comes to juking out your opponent then you start walking into sparrer territory. Given how brain dead a lot of PKers are though it doesn’t take any skill to move a square or two before pressing the S button again.

while i was reading this i couldn't finish cus you just sound hurt for some reason or whatever
anyways. When it comes to PK, you do become good at it but to a certain point meaning once you reach a certain level you just can't surpass it. I've already said this awhile back. also alot of these sparrers suck when they step on the PK ground lol so just ignore what they say

Top 5 Player Killers who are actually good and don't bs
1- Angel</3
2- Xenthic
3- micheal</3
4- areo</3
5- Shax</3

you can feel however u want. later

s/o to angel been a good friend n kept it real for awhile

Areo 09-11-2018 01:53 AM

to be honest playing the “he said she said” game when it comes to who mob pked is pretty pointless. While creating lists themed around the concept can be fun or interesting I think that it is simply too difficult to have an objective list like it. It’s a guilty until proven innocent system... people can say I mob pked, and then what? I give them all 4,400 hours of me playing the game to prove my innocence?

Overall skill is the most important factor. Good pkers should be able to advance in the GST... they should be competent and capable in a guild spar. I haven’t competed competitively since like 3 gsts ago, but when I did I held my own just fine... I feel that it’s a good measuring stick for skill. The numbers themselves are cool, but don’t show anything outside of a stored value. You can be impressed by their commitment, but that’s about as far as it should go.

Bryan* 09-11-2018 02:12 AM

I feel like pking is just sparring in an open environment. But other than that, nice list!

Fulgore 09-11-2018 04:01 AM

Quote:

Posted by Areo (Post 818182)

Overall skill is the most important factor. Good pkers should be able to advance in the GST... they should be competent and capable in a guild spar. I haven’t competed competitively since like 3 gsts ago, but when I did I held my own just fine... I feel that it’s a good measuring stick for skill. The numbers themselves are cool, but don’t show anything outside of a stored value. You can be impressed by their commitment, but that’s about as far as it should go.

alright so we've deduced that good pkers can be chosen by how good they are at spar

this is the right one

Colin 09-11-2018 04:23 AM

It’s ironic that Angel a pure bred LEGIT PKER who also manages a guild full of them (Beast Mode) isn’t even capable of doing the activity PK is primarily centered around without requesting the assistance of the same BA chumps and sparrers he constantly complains about lol, speaks volumes about the skill of pure PKers.
https://i.imgur.com/Txl7S3b.jpg

the only skill in PKing is sparring, good sparrers can PK well but not everyone with high amounts of PKs can spar

Zetectic 09-11-2018 04:50 AM

In terms of pk quality, Mizochi was good. She gave me a hard time, very good at using arrows, bushes, bombs, also suicide in an instant. She was the only person I couldn't beat in the open environment pvp. and she was a nice person if you don't see her in the pk zone.

During pk riot in 2014, I witnessed players like Twilit grab 7-8kills before he gets killed. it's pretty hard to maneuver in pk riots and make sharp turns.

I wouldn't leave out EP from 2012. He was like a God of Towering figure at the time. His stats were so fancy back in 2012.

Speaking of pk and towering. I never saw Thallen in pk zone, cause I lost my pk interest when he was leading all those towers. Can someone tell me how he was as a tower leader or pker? He got like 150k kills and own multiple 1k hats, but never got a chance to judge him on pk field or tower. Why is he not mentioned in OP?

AngelGraal 09-11-2018 05:05 AM

Quote:

Posted by Zetectic (Post 818190)
Speaking of pk and towering. I never saw Thallen in pk zone, cause I lost my pk interest when he was leading all those towers. Can someone tell me how he was as a tower leader or pker? He got like 150k kills and own multiple 1k hats, but never got a chance to judge him on pk field or tower. Why is he not mentioned in OP?

left thallen out cause he pked in riots a lot he broke a record for most daily pks it was about 10k idk if someone else did more afterwards but thats basically why. he also mostly focused on leading the towers rather than the pk stat I guess u can put it that way

Darkk 09-11-2018 08:47 AM

Quote:

Posted by Bryan* (Post 818183)
I feel like pking is just sparring in an open environment. But other than that, nice list!

Any competent sparrer would flaw any pker in this so called "open environment"

Bryan* 09-11-2018 02:24 PM

Quote:

Posted by Darkk (Post 818203)
Any competent sparrer would flaw any pker in this so called "open environment"

You’d be surprised that isn’t always true but whatever floats your boat

Raeven 09-11-2018 03:23 PM

Lmao

GOAT 09-11-2018 03:50 PM

Quote:

Posted by Darkk (Post 818203)
Any competent sparrer would flaw any pker in this so called "open environment"

Lol

I will be pkng outside of the Graal city entrance around 7pm western time. Would like to see legendary sparer fulgy come show me his “skills”

I want to see his excuses after he gets slapped around by my flying bushes while on a prehistoric 5th gen iPhone with no zoom out

Everyone welcomed. Just use your main account as I will be recording

Saeed 09-11-2018 05:05 PM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 818186)
It’s ironic that Angel a pure bred LEGIT PKER who also manages a guild full of them (Beast Mode) isn’t even capable of doing the activity PK is primarily centered around without requesting the assistance of the same BA chumps and sparrers he constantly complains about lol, speaks volumes about the skill of pure PKers.
https://i.imgur.com/Txl7S3b.jpg

the only skill in PKing is sparring, good sparrers can PK well but not everyone with high amounts of PKs can spar

Too bad you can’t spar neither pk. Although it’s true that not all pkers can spar well but the same applies to the fact not all sparrers can pk well.

Pokki 09-11-2018 05:12 PM

well if we take a look the definition of skill (the ability to do something well; expertise), player killing is in fact a skill that can develop overtime with the coherrence of sparring. it’s very evident that some players have the ability to player kill “more well” than others (besides participating in riots)

Fabian 09-11-2018 05:38 PM

Shut up pokki

Raeven 09-11-2018 05:42 PM

pretty much an accurate list if we're talking about pkers "who never riot" as a requirement

topic aside , what darkk said is true. that most sparrers can pk well especially those pkers who transcended from pking to sparring like EP , abel etc.. but i can still see alot of non-pking sparrers like yuki-mon and even dante pk sometimes. they are a bit harder to pk against since they got better movement and skill in general.

Darkk 09-11-2018 11:49 PM

I'd flaw anyone on that list. Regardless of it being single spar, gs or inside a tower

edit: i actually flawed this Bryan guy just yesterday at chris kill em's when i went to spectate how broken pk boosting really is

super kurosaki 09-12-2018 12:23 AM

Quote:

Posted by Shaxx (Post 818179)
You're dumb




while i was reading this i couldn't finish cus you just sound hurt for some reason or whatever
anyways. When it comes to PK, you do become good at it but to a certain point meaning once you reach a certain level you just can't surpass it. I've already said this awhile back. also alot of these sparrers suck when they step on the PK ground lol so just ignore what they say

Top 5 Player Killers who are actually good and don't bs
1- Angel</3
2- Xenthic
3- micheal</3
4- areo</3
5- Shax</3

you can feel however u want. later

s/o to angel been a good friend n kept it real for awhile

you don’t get good at pking. that’s not even up for debate.
top 3 pkers are a toss up but of course EP is always around top 4-5, Simple-Z & Stomper are top pkers too. idk who the f**k oreo and shax (did u mean british gst winner/pker shadz?) are but the amount of brokenheart people runnin around lately is blasphemous

GOAT 09-12-2018 02:11 AM

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Posted by super kurosaki (Post 818224)
you don’t get good at pking. that’s not even up for debate.
top 3 pkers are a toss up but of course EP is always around top 4-5, Simple-Z & Stomper are top pkers too. idk who the f**k oreo and shax (did u mean british gst winner/pker shadz?) are but the amount of brokenheart people runnin around lately is blasphemous

I'd flaw any of those 3. Regardless of it being single spar, gs or inside a tower

edit: i actually flawed those 3 just yesterday at chris kill em's when i went to spectate how broken pk boosting really is

Nikthebatman 09-12-2018 02:18 AM

It takes skill to stay away from riots.
That aside though,Michael gave me a pretty hard time.I always hated seeing him at MoD tower because I knew he would kick the living daylights out of me.

Shaxx 09-12-2018 06:25 PM

yeah so it's just the same random nonesense these ppl will be saying. Meaninless to argue. Just don't concern yourself with who's the best and who's not, most of ppl Angel mentioned were players that didn't gave a **** about competition they just pk'ed for fun which what some of yall need to do. My list was in no particular order, all the ppl innit r really good same with angel's list that's his opinion. Everyone has one.

but aye, are y'all gonna fix that dumb update where you disabled gaining kills after you kill same person twice, thrice or idk so i can work on that 300k @fp4 you feel me ;) <3 ^_* ^~ (:

twilit 09-12-2018 06:58 PM

Quote:

Posted by Colin (Post 818186)
the only skill in PKing is sparring, good sparrers can PK well but not everyone with high amounts of PKs can spar

Not necessarily true. There are some people who are good at 1v1 but can easily get choked in a flag room with more than 8 ppl around.

AngelGraal 09-13-2018 01:03 AM

this is a pk thread guys go make ur spar or gst or whatever thread somewhere else. haterz.

GotenGraal 09-13-2018 01:12 AM

do top bady killers, farmers, and code shop owners next plz

Bryan* 09-13-2018 02:09 AM

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Posted by GotenGraal (Post 818288)
do top bady killers, farmers, and code shop owners next plz

Give 4-Lom a few days

GOAT 09-13-2018 03:57 AM

You guys got goten mad by not mentioning him on the list.

4-Lom 09-13-2018 06:19 AM

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Posted by Bryan* (Post 818290)
Give 4-Lom a few days

You rang?
Naw fam codeshops are for noobs. "Top" anything when you're talking about house design is silly, tho, cuz it's all about opinion and artistic taste.

I was top 50 bk of all time before the leaderboards came out and tryhards took over... but the majority of my bks are from fighting guards in the shovel cave back in the day to earn some cash.

Funny detail... Did you know that the harmonized system of 'points' on the leaderboards originally had baddy killers with extremely high numbers in comparison to the player killers, and the player killers whined that they didn't look as cool because their numbers were lower? Kill for kill, they weren't making nearly as high numbers, which would be expected, but then they complained about it and the number of baddy kills was no longer made to equal the number displayed on the leaderboard. I might have 50,000 bks in a month, for example, but now that it counts for points it shows up relative to the baddies killed and effort involved.

GOAT 09-13-2018 05:05 PM

I wouldn’t consider dark a legit PKr because he’s cringy af :D:love: that name alone would noobify the whole pk community.

Unlike spar where you just run backwards and swing at air (per haze) there’s levels to pkng. You can be a highly skilled 0.5 hunter at MoD but suck at swamp or sards.

You can be a highly skilled open field pkr but suck at towers.

You can be a highly skilled item pkr(signs,bushes,bombs, and arrows) but suck at sword pkng.

Mike, emo p, and xenthic are guys that could probably give a list of players that were actually good at pkng MoD.

I don’t know who pks swamp now but back in the day deadmouse guild was pretty good at pkng there. Especially greenarrow and deadmouse.

Sards had their own PKrs. When I helped Silver get 1k with the guild 13 there was a whole bunch of them that were good.

Pond PKrs are a bunch of nonames but some of them are pretty deadly with those bushes.


Saying all that, the pk community doesn’t need top pkr lists. We don’t need validation like other sections of the community. Amiright?

Raeven 09-13-2018 05:15 PM

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Posted by GOAT (Post 818315)
Saying all that, the pk community doesn’t need top pkr lists. We don’t need validation like other sections of the community. Amiright?

well if one is insecure enough

GOAT 09-13-2018 05:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by Raeven (Post 818316)
well if one is insecure enough

I’ve been around iClassic since 2010 and I can’t think of anyone that has those female traits.

Jinzo 09-13-2018 05:56 PM

Well, I'm more skillful than many on that list and I've done my kills without riot, why am I not on that list? Lol

Saeed 09-13-2018 06:13 PM

Jinzo and Wally are the best Brazilian pkers. Specially my man Jinzo


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