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Weeno 11-07-2019 12:39 AM

What if graal got the fortnite 2 treatment?
 
im not in any way saying graal should do this because the current map holds COUNTLESS amount of memories. But I’m just wondering what would happen if graal completely changed maps and perhaps even the graphics. Would graal “become popular” again? I would love to see something like this happen if graal wasn’t such an old and nostalgic game. Maybe on zone it would be cool but zone is dead ofc

And none of u oldies better come in and say “don’t u dare compare graal to fortnite”

regas 11-07-2019 12:50 AM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 828290)
im not in any way saying graal should do this because the current map holds COUNTLESS amount of memories. But I’m just wondering what would happen if graal completely changed maps and perhaps even the graphics. Would graal “become popular” again? I would love to see something like this happen if graal wasn’t such an old and nostalgic game. Maybe on zone it would be cool but zone is dead ofc

And none of u oldies better come in and say “don’t u dare compare graal to fortnite”

What exactly is the "Fortnite 2 Treatment" can you enlighten me? That aside regularly changing the map and graphics sounds like an absurd amount of work.

Gambit Darkmane 11-07-2019 01:10 AM

I don't know if that would make more people want to play the game I think it would just make players hate on it even more, That or it will divide the fan base for sure.

Green 11-07-2019 01:34 AM

A brand new map, to explore sounds like a lot of fun but it would require A LOT of work and honestly I doubt that the excitement from it would last more than a couple of weeks. I also don't think it would make the game "popular" again because even if the map or textures change it's still the same game with the same problems.

Weeno 11-07-2019 01:36 AM

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Posted by regas (Post 828291)
What exactly is the "Fortnite 2 Treatment" can you enlighten me? That aside regularly changing the map and graphics sounds like an absurd amount of work.

Basically what fortnite did was entirely changed their map. Everything thrown away and they made something new. Along with that they changed their textures and graphics. Along with that removed a lot of stuff to make the game more simple.

Perception. 11-07-2019 10:58 AM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 828294)
Basically what fortnite did was entirely changed their map. Everything thrown away and they made something new. Along with that they changed their textures and graphics. Along with that removed a lot of stuff to make the game more simple.

Bro, all Halloween bags were filled with old graphics and you think they have time and money to remake all the map ?

bruh

regas 11-07-2019 12:30 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 828294)
Basically what fortnite did was entirely changed their map. Everything thrown away and they made something new. Along with that they changed their textures and graphics. Along with that removed a lot of stuff to make the game more simple.

New maps would be cool, but I'd personally like to see more area remakes (Like what was done with SwampTown).

Gambit Darkmane 11-07-2019 03:51 PM

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Posted by Perception. (Post 828301)
Bro, all Halloween bags were filled with old graphics and you think they have time and money to remake all the map ?

bruh

damn they were old halloween hats? I been getting candies jus for those #feelsbadman

Green 11-07-2019 05:21 PM

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Posted by Gambit Darkmane (Post 828303)
damn they were old halloween hats? I been getting candies jus for those #feelsbadman

Not all of them but quite a few are from the previous years. You'll still get a bunch of new hats.

Grant 11-08-2019 12:23 AM

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Posted by Perception. (Post 828301)
Bro, all Halloween bags were filled with old graphics and you think they have time and money to remake all the map ?

bruh

Can’t blame us for this, all the items are player submissions...

Perception. 11-08-2019 01:04 AM

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Posted by Grant (Post 828305)
Can’t blame us for this, all the items are player submissions...

Then maybe what about let players do their own level ? make a contest about it, you guys will gain time and some players (i) will be happy doing this.:blush:

Ghettoicedtea 11-08-2019 01:34 AM

No. Considering how graal is all a community effort and you dont get paid. Not gonna happen. Theres no one that wants to script, thats what graal needs the most. No one wants to do levels. No one wants to monitor gameplay and make adjustments to improve it. No one wants to make the quality of life improvements to the game and make it cleaner to use the application. All everyone wants to do is dab on people with custom heads and bodies.

MJ4 11-08-2019 06:01 AM

I think it’ll bring all the old players back certainly but there’s no doubt that they’re going to complain about it. Almost of all of us have played this way back when we were a lot more younger and just completely revamping the wholee map will just wipe out all the memories and the good times we all had. Plus, i feel like it’s sooo unlikely that they’ll change the WHOLE map, I think the smarter decision will be to add on to all the maps and focus on upcoming events.

Perception. 11-08-2019 12:03 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 828308)
No. Considering how graal is all a community effort and you dont get paid. Not gonna happen. Theres no one that wants to script, thats what graal needs the most. No one wants to do levels. No one wants to monitor gameplay and make adjustments to improve it. No one wants to make the quality of life improvements to the game and make it cleaner to use the application. All everyone wants to do is dab on people with custom heads and bodies.

Are you done or..? Because we dont get paid you wont do something ? When you love something you'r not waiting for a reward or anything else.

Perception. 11-08-2019 01:16 PM

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Posted by Grant (Post 828314)
I meant like all goody bags are player submissions so if you get old hats that’s because of there not being enough submissions

Do you think it'll be the same for Christmas Gift ? No enough submissions ?

Crono 11-08-2019 02:43 PM

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Posted by Weeno (Post 828290)
im not in any way saying graal should do this because the current map holds COUNTLESS amount of memories. But I’m just wondering what would happen if graal completely changed maps and perhaps even the graphics. Would graal “become popular” again? I would love to see something like this happen if graal wasn’t such an old and nostalgic game. Maybe on zone it would be cool but zone is dead ofc

And none of u oldies better come in and say “don’t u dare compare graal to fortnite”

graal or classic? graal is multiple servers, if only we had that development scene like we used to.

Perception. 11-08-2019 03:49 PM

By the way is there a software to create levels or something ? i would like to try :)

Jarace 11-08-2019 05:27 PM

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Posted by Perception. (Post 828315)
Do you think it'll be the same for Christmas Gift ? No enough submissions ?

The items have always been available in later years, in addition to the new ones for the Halloween candy shop. It's not because of there being too few submissions and I don't know where Grant got that information. We actually had quite a few submissions this year.

For Christmas, some items continue to be available in later years and some don't. I'm sure we will have more than enough submissions, as we always do.

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Posted by Perception. (Post 828317)
By the way is there a software to create levels or something ? i would like to try :)

Try this.

Perception. 11-08-2019 05:29 PM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 828320)
The items have always been available in later years, in addition to the new ones for the Halloween candy shop. It's not because of there being too few submissions and I don't know where Grant got that information. We actually had quite a few submissions this year.

For Christmas, some items continue to be available in later years and some don't. I'm sure we will have more than enough submissions, as we always do.



Try this.

As always thank you.

Imprint 11-08-2019 06:08 PM

we already did this in ~2012 when the tileset and most of the map was revamped.

Ghettoicedtea 11-10-2019 07:15 AM

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Posted by Perception. (Post 828313)
Are you done or..? Because we dont get paid you wont do something ? When you love something you'r not waiting for a reward or anything else.

Your love for a game wont pay bills amigo. Voluntary work is voluntary work. I would be happy to put my skills to work for graal again and make a game better, because graal holds a special place in my heart as being of the only mobile games i enjoy. But love for a game wont pay bills, put food in your stomach, gas in your car, or in my case, bullets in my guns. Believe me when i say working graal is a massive time investment. Theres a bunch wrong and can be improved and no one really wants to do it because the reward is seeing your work come to life and maybe in game stuff. Now thats the only reward and there asking for a lot. I personally love seing my work come to life, thats why i fabricate I beams for buildings. I can see what i contributed to a building and im making straight out of college 55k a year, all college debts paid within 10 months. Graal asks for a large amount of work and no monetary gain. Thats a large turnoff for people and no one wants to work because they only get the pride of making something for everyone else to enjoy but nothing to help them IRL. Its an unfortunate truth of community based things.

Grant 11-10-2019 01:38 PM

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Posted by Perception. (Post 828315)
Do you think it'll be the same for Christmas Gift ? No enough submissions ?

I think so... not 100% sure though

Gambit Darkmane 11-10-2019 08:17 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 828337)
Your love for a game wont pay bills amigo. Voluntary work is voluntary work. I would be happy to put my skills to work for graal again and make a game better, because graal holds a special place in my heart as being of the only mobile games i enjoy. But love for a game wont pay bills, put food in your stomach, gas in your car, or in my case, bullets in my guns. Believe me when i say working graal is a massive time investment. Theres a bunch wrong and can be improved and no one really wants to do it because the reward is seeing your work come to life and maybe in game stuff. Now thats the only reward and there asking for a lot. I personally love seing my work come to life, thats why i fabricate I beams for buildings. I can see what i contributed to a building and im making straight out of college 55k a year, all college debts paid within 10 months. Graal asks for a large amount of work and no monetary gain. Thats a large turnoff for people and no one wants to work because they only get the pride of making something for everyone else to enjoy but nothing to help them IRL. Its an unfortunate truth of community based things.

I agree with this whole heartedly, But assuming that you ARE working and you ARE paying your bills and all that other stuff why not look at being staff for graal as a hobby then? Looking at what is wrong with the game and working on that and fixing them should be something to look forward to tbh.

Ghettoicedtea 11-11-2019 01:15 AM

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Posted by Gambit Darkmane (Post 828357)
I agree with this whole heartedly, But assuming that you ARE working and you ARE paying your bills and all that other stuff why not look at being staff for graal as a hobby then? Looking at what is wrong with the game and working on that and fixing them should be something to look forward to tbh.

Because if you actually want to get work done. Your going to be investing a lot of your free time into graal. Graals teams are extremely small, if you put in maybe 2 hours a day, not much will get done. Its a demanding hobby. A lot of people work or have school, and balancing out personal life with work and then throw in graal ontop. It gets chaotic.

Reggie* 11-11-2019 07:38 AM

Graal Classic 2? In all seriousness though what that one guy said is right. It does take time to get things done. A lot of it, and I was looking into leveling earlier but my computer broke so I’ll get a new one and try things out. @Jarace if I wanted to join perhaps a levels team how could I?

I would love a revamp, but I like Greens idea more at the moment, I don’t want all be special places I missed leaving. Like Snow Fort is already gone. So if we had a remodel of each town, with better graphics like they did swamp I think that would be nice. I’d love to try to help in any way possible too.

Jarace 11-11-2019 08:04 AM

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Posted by Reggie* (Post 828369)
Graal Classic 2? In all seriousness though what that one guy said is right. It does take time to get things done. A lot of it, and I was looking into leveling earlier but my computer broke so I’ll get a new one and try things out. @Jarace if I wanted to join perhaps a levels team how could I?

I would love a revamp, but I like Greens idea more at the moment, I don’t want all be special places I missed leaving. Like Snow Fort is already gone. So if we had a remodel of each town, with better graphics like they did swamp I think that would be nice. I’d love to try to help in any way possible too.

They don't hire for levels (or NAT, for that matter) the same way they do gps or graphics staff.

If you're just starting, check out Dusty's level editor. You can also use Testbed's online level editor by logging in to the server then signing up for access.

Although, I should note that stuff like the Swamp Town remake are more graphics intensive than levels intensive. If you're looking to help out with stuff like that, you may wish to consider going that direction instead.

Reggie* 11-11-2019 05:42 PM

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Posted by Jarace (Post 828370)
They don't hire for levels (or NAT, for that matter) the same way they do gps or graphics staff.

If you're just starting, check out Dusty's level editor. You can also use Testbed's online level editor by logging in to the server then signing up for access.

Although, I should note that stuff like the Swamp Town remake are more graphics intensive than levels intensive. If you're looking to help out with stuff like that, you may wish to consider going that direction instead.

Alright I’ll look into that when the time comes around. I’ll try to learn both, because that seems like something that would work out imo. When I used the levels editor on test bed it didn’t seem too hard, but when looking at Dusty’s little things it’s obviously a bit hard with water and layers etc

eul 11-11-2019 11:49 PM

nah they should focus on big events add more interesting things to do, dope theme for nexus and they should make more taunt for ppl who spar.

edit: AND OPTIMIZE YOUR GAME this is just a 2d game it should not eat too much data

Gambit Darkmane 11-12-2019 07:57 AM

If its more events people want they already change certain hats daily and have daily events why not have someone spawn in weekly that gives you certain challenges (but acutal hard challenges) and then he gifts you a hat or maybe even an exotic coin which then with enough saved up gives you a rare hat or it doesnt even have to be a hat it could be a taunt or something new.

Just a thought.

Heeble 11-15-2019 04:18 PM

I'd be down with this if: PK zones were consistent, The Zone seasonal shop was removed, the anti-boost PK system (that doesn't prevent boosting, gj team) was removed, and if we had a dev team with enough time to fix this game.

SecretSoldier 11-15-2019 06:50 PM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 828365)
Because if you actually want to get work done. Your going to be investing a lot of your free time into graal. Graals teams are extremely small, if you put in maybe 2 hours a day, not much will get done. Its a demanding hobby. A lot of people work or have school, and balancing out personal life with work and then throw in graal ontop. It gets chaotic.

I mean if I worked on a server for 2 hours a day I’d definitely be able to get quiittteee a bit done, just saying! Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to justify the OP’s suggestion, because what he’s suggesting IS absolutely outrageous and would never be done due to A.) They’d just be wiping out YEARS of previous work and “advancements” and B.) Ain’t no body got time fo’ dat! But yeah, I just had to point out that 2 hrs a day working on Graal you can actually get a good amount of stuff done rather quickly, it’s all just depending on who you were talking to really!

Gambit Darkmane 11-15-2019 10:56 PM

I was going to ask why were most pk zones removed? is it because no one cares about player killing anymore?

Heeble 11-15-2019 11:25 PM

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Posted by Gambit Darkmane (Post 828456)
I was going to ask why were most pk zones removed? is it because no one cares about player killing anymore?

PK zones are changed/disabled for updates. Most of the fun overworld PK zones were disabled for the Halloween event. But none of them have turned back on despite the event being over. Whenever shops that are in PK zones get updated, usually the PK zone is disabled.

People do care about PKing. We've just been shafted so hard that we accept it lol.

Gambit Darkmane 11-15-2019 11:29 PM

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Posted by Heeble (Post 828458)
PK zones are changed/disabled for updates. Most of the fun overworld PK zones were disabled for the Halloween event. But none of them have turned back on despite the event being over. Whenever shops that are in PK zones get updated, usually the PK zone is disabled.

People do care about PKing. We've just been shafted so hard that we accept it lol.

I'm just trying to get my kills up since I have to use my newb acc due to me (somehow) losing my older one, And I figured PKing is all I got now since sparring is so god awful now. The community and the toxicity will never change but just dealing with delayers and laggers is kind of ridiculous so thats why I was frustrated at the fact that all the popular PK zones were disabled, Hope they do turn them back on soon though.

4-Lom 11-16-2019 03:51 AM

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Posted by Ghettoicedtea (Post 828308)
No. Considering how graal is all a community effort and you dont get paid. Not gonna happen. Theres no one that wants to script, thats what graal needs the most. No one wants to do levels. No one wants to monitor gameplay and make adjustments to improve it. No one wants to make the quality of life improvements to the game and make it cleaner to use the application. All everyone wants to do is dab on people with custom heads and bodies.

Coulda woulda, but that ship sailed.


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