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SNIPER_666 03-05-2012 11:53 AM

Melees and guns drop on i era!!!!!!!!
 
Its very wonderfun to drop guns and melees in i era
My dream is droo guns or melees on i era its be a very impressive to drop guns then we csn trade guns and melees without admins but the problame on these is "SCAM"
:(:(We wish can trade anything without scam
We hope to be allow drop guns and melees
Plz sumbut a post of the threadAND THX FOR READING S+ gohshsucks pm me if u need help or i era ill do my best

Shock 03-05-2012 12:30 PM

The grammar here is awful.

Peter 03-05-2012 12:37 PM

Not sure if you're trolling, but I'm afraid this is not going to happen.

Rockstar 03-05-2012 01:44 PM

Haha^^^ Peter most likley not .

WDM 03-05-2012 01:55 PM

I love the different fonts to emphasize your message, but no; it would ruin the economy.

Rok 03-05-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Posted by WDM (Post 76277)
but no; it would ruin the economy.

*insert typical administrative excuse here*

WDM 03-05-2012 02:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rok (Post 76281)
*insert typical administrative excuse here*

*INSERT STUPID RESPONSE*Yeah, let's make it so players can trade BAR's and sell them at a discounted value!1*/END STUPID RESPONSE*

Ace 03-05-2012 03:20 PM

Even if we cant trade sh*t we should be able to sell them

Rok 03-05-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by WDM (Post 76284)
*INSERT STUPID RESPONSE*Yeah, let's make it so players can trade BAR's and sell them at a discounted value!1*/END STUPID RESPONSE*

An economy is built on consumer trade....just sayin'

Talon 03-05-2012 05:11 PM

Let me Google that for you

My God, I'm just going to stop with the economic lectures and scamming issues and just give people that link above.

Deltacus 03-05-2012 05:36 PM

I didn't even feel to waste my time on this thread, even if I do, haha!

Not your idea, we have taken it up.

NUFSED

Hearts Graal 03-05-2012 05:43 PM

The thread starter put in lots of effort in his texts with all kinds of fonts and different colours to emphasis how badly he wants melee and guns to be trade-able so let's give him some credit. <3

Haha, jokes aside, it is true that if melee and guns were to be trade-able, players would not spend gralats to buy new guns/melees when they get bored of their own as they can trade for what they want continuously as there will always be demand and supply for each gun/melee. Since era focus is mainly about profitability ( let's not argue about this for as much as players wish to enjoy a game with low spending, eurocentre requires profits in order to continue running this game, so fine.) this cannot happen as it will greatly impact the economy of era, ( which in another words means the amount of gralats players spend which also reflects the amount of gralat packs purchased with real cash.)

However, a slight sweetener can be given to players. A daring suggestion would be a gun refund system. Of course we cannot expect a full refund, but a refund at approximately 1/3-1/4 of it's original price would be reasonable. From a player's point of view, sometimes we just want to have a "feel" of the gun, like it's freeze, it's range and its accuracy which merely reading the description of the gun itself is insufficient.

It is impossible for most players to purchase all the guns in Era but sometimes we just want to have hands-on on all the guns. I believe if a refund system is at 1/3-1/4, it would not ruin the economy and profitability of Era. Furthermore, who knows, players may just spend more now as they have an incentive to buy guns/melees.
Thank you! :D

Jester Lapse 03-05-2012 06:29 PM

OMG I TAKE GOVERNMENT CLASS AND HATE IT DON'T BRING THAT STUFF HERE! >:(

anyways, fix your English please, and no, unless you want me to buy my whole gang BAR's

Shock 03-05-2012 07:19 PM

Quote:

Posted by Agony (Post 76331)
Let me Google that for you

My God, I'm just going to stop with the economic lectures and scamming issues and just give people that link above.

You should.

Rok 03-05-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Posted by Hearts Graal (Post 76357)
The thread starter put in lots of effort in his texts with all kinds of fonts and different colours to emphasis how badly he wants melee and guns to be trade-able so let's give him some credit. <3

Haha, jokes aside, it is true that if melee and guns were to be trade-able, players would not spend gralats to buy new guns/melees when they get bored of their own as they can trade for what they want continuously as there will always be demand and supply for each gun/melee. Since era focus is mainly about profitability ( let's not argue about this for as much as players wish to enjoy a game with low spending, eurocentre requires profits in order to continue running this game, so fine.) this cannot happen as it will greatly impact the economy of era, ( which in another words means the amount of gralats players spend which also reflects the amount of gralat packs purchased with real cash.)

However, a slight sweetener can be given to players. A daring suggestion would be a gun refund system. Of course we cannot expect a full refund, but a refund at approximately 1/3-1/4 of it's original price would be reasonable. From a player's point of view, sometimes we just want to have a "feel" of the gun, like it's freeze, it's range and its accuracy which merely reading the description of the gun itself is insufficient.

It is impossible for most players to purchase all the guns in Era but sometimes we just want to have hands-on on all the guns. I believe if a refund system is at 1/3-1/4, it would not ruin the economy and profitability of Era. Furthermore, who knows, players may just spend more now as they have an incentive to buy guns/melees.
Thank you! :D

tl;dr Eurocenter needs money to run the game, so a trade system doesn't pan out for their high-profit plans. But a small-refunds system wouldn't be too bad in my eyes.

Try that next time ^^ Your posts are kind of long.

Maxy 03-05-2012 09:22 PM

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End trolling

Peter5498 03-06-2012 12:00 AM

I hate to "hate" on anyone, but this ruins the economy and era becomes errupt. Too much fighting if someone got scammed, and people want to buy these "rare" melee's all the time.

XENA* 03-06-2012 06:49 AM

I'm not trying to be rude but i kinda agree with what other people say: -wtf happened to you? Did you drink 2 tones of coffee?? You posted like 6 threads and most of them already exist! -The use of multiple fonts make the thread not nice to read and finaly -stop playing graal instead open a grammar book and start learning :/ sorry maybe you aren't fluent in english but please do a small effort.

PoeticFolly 03-06-2012 10:34 AM

Not to troll. But that in my opinion is a terrible idea. I mean, there is already enough scamming in era as is, and when someone got scammed out of their BAR they would go to the Admins and complain. It would get really old. Really fast.

SnakeRekon 03-06-2012 11:26 AM

An Economy based on players trading ruined PC Era.

We don't have a trading system because we don't want an economy, it'd destroy the balancing of the game and you'd all whinge a thousand times more.

The way we have Era setup is nothing to do with Eurocenters wishes, it's what we believe is best for the server.

Rok 03-06-2012 02:14 PM

I'm not saying we need a trade system, I'm saying there are successful ways to make a trade system work. Let's all take a look at Runescape (just an example). Runescape has far more players then Graal combined, and yet they can trade successfully with each other? I think, if we implemented their old trade system (where there was a set trade limit, i.e. the BAR could be traded for gralats worth 190-210k, or items that summed up to that value). iEra isn't mature enough to handle a no-limits trade system. that's just too tempting for us. But there are open alternatives that can be looked at. Just sayin'

Ace 03-06-2012 02:45 PM

You drop first

Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 02:50 PM

Here are my views. There should be a trading system but it should only be for items that you could already drop regardless. This would reduce scamming and would not harm the "economy"

Rok 03-06-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 76803)
Here are my views. There should be a trading system but it should only be for items that you could already drop regardless. This would reduce scamming and would not harm the "economy"

Wouldn't that be the same as what players are doing now? But I guess with an actual trading system we can implement gralats and such, instead of digging shells for trading. Scamming will still exist, it will always exist, but I agree this would lessen it :)

callimuc 03-06-2012 04:44 PM

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Posted by Ace (Post 76801)
You drop first

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Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rok

Wouldn't that be the same as what players are doing now? But I guess with an actual trading system we can implement gralats and such, instead of digging shells for trading. Scamming will still exist, it will always exist, but I agree this would lessen it :)

My way would avoid scam

Rok 03-06-2012 04:49 PM

How so? If there's no sort of trade limits, I could sell an ak47 to a noob for 10k. Isn't that scam?

Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 04:50 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rok
How so? If there's no sort of trade limits, I could sell an ak47 to a noob for 10k. Isn't that scam?

Trade system with what you can already drop. Please read

Rok 03-06-2012 05:03 PM

Yes, but scamming will still exist? Please state how exactly the Trade System will eliminate scamming please, so I can follow you.

Alexei 03-06-2012 05:10 PM

why do u always like to cry...

Hearts Graal 03-06-2012 07:53 PM

Scamming is legal in Era <3

Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rok
Yes, but scamming will still exist? Please state how exactly the Trade System will eliminate scamming please, so I can follow you.

It would eliminate the whole you drop first blah blah and you see what you're getting so you won't be scammed?

And scamming isn't legal hearts. It's just hard to prove. If an admin sees you doing it, you'll get in trouble. At least we know where your heads at though

Shock 03-06-2012 08:31 PM

It's legal because of the fact that no one is forced to drop items. Sure, it isn't right, but it's not against the rules. The simple facts of game mechanics proves this.

Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by Shock
It's legal because of the fact that no one is forced to drop items. Sure, it isn't right, but it's not against the rules. The simple facts of game mechanics proves this.

I talked to staff about it. If they catch someone doing it there will be consequences. It's the fact you can't prove someone scammed you that they say it's legal so they don't get spammed about it

Shock 03-06-2012 08:52 PM

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Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 76915)
I talked to staff about it. If they catch someone doing it there will be consequences. It's the fact you can't prove someone scammed you that they say it's legal so they don't get spammed about it

So they lied for the convenience. If that's so, then it's still legal in my eyes.

But, just to make things clear, I don't scam. Never have never will. You can call it honesty.

Ace 03-06-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Posted by Hearts Graal (Post 76901)
Scamming is legal in Era <3

scammer
it's a joke jeez lol

Hearts Graal 03-06-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 76906)
It would eliminate the whole you drop first blah blah and you see what you're getting so you won't be scammed?

And scamming isn't legal hearts. It's just hard to prove. If an admin sees you doing it, you'll get in trouble. At least we know where your heads at though


Scamming isn't illegal in Era. It has been stated so many times in public announcements that players should be careful who they trade with as no one would be liable if they are scammed.

And please do not jump to conclusion so quickly. I have never scammed in Era and many times I even oversee trades for gang members. :love:

Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Posted by Hearts Graal

Scamming isn't illegal in Era. It has been stated so many times in public announcements that players should be careful who they trade with as no one would be liable if they are scammed.

And please do not jump to conclusion so quickly. I have never scammed in Era and many times I even oversee trades for gang members. :love:

That's a lovely lie. As there are countless stories of you scamming people. But that's besides the point. And I already explained why staff says its legal. Helps to read then post

Hearts Graal 03-06-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Posted by Shock (Post 76907)
It's legal because of the fact that no one is forced to drop items. Sure, it isn't right, but it's not against the rules. The simple facts of game mechanics proves this.


Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 09:01 PM

Okay if you really think its legal invite a staff member to your house and do it in front of them :) case closed

Hearts Graal 03-06-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 76915)
I talked to staff about it. If they catch someone doing it there will be consequences. It's the fact you can't prove someone scammed you that they say it's legal so they don't get spammed about it

At first I didn't want to comment on this cause what you say put admins in bad light, that they are lying saying scamming is legal just because they want to avoid the trouble of being spammed.
But you insisted I read this, so oh well.

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 76939)
That's a lovely lie. As there are countless stories of you scamming people. But that's besides the point. And I already explained why staff says its legal. Helps to read then post

Defamation.
But since defamation isn't illegal on Era. Lolol. I'll let it pass.

Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 09:27 PM

They have better things to do then reply to people saying they got scammed when half of it it probably lies anyways lol. I'd do the same

HomoPanda 03-06-2012 09:38 PM

jesters correct, end of discussion.

Jester Lapse 03-06-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Posted by HomoPanda
jesters correct, end of discussion.

<3

Talon 03-06-2012 10:42 PM

Scamming can get you in trouble if you're caught. It's illegal.

/thread

Shock 03-06-2012 10:46 PM

Lol "/thread" hahaha

Ace 03-07-2012 01:29 AM

/open thread

Talon 03-07-2012 01:43 AM

/lock thread with the powers bestowed upon me by stefan


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