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Higbey 05-01-2012 02:00 AM

Stefan is the reason why we have problems like no trading system.
 
And as with most cases, Stefan is the problem here, attack him. Argue him. Spam him, he is the one stopping a trade system from being implemented. He is the reason scamming still happens, he is the reason you can't safely trade.

Don't attack staff about it, don't post here about it, we need to make him listen.
It's his stubborn money lusting ways ruining the game, even if he made it, he is doing a horrible job at running it.

He cares more about his cash than players, if you really want to get to him, email him and message his Facebook and don't buy in app purchases like gralats. Tell him to listen to the players. Tell him Higbey sent you. He may have created the game, but it's the players and volunteer staff actually making it better, and it's Stefan's ways holding us back.

Hate the tileset on iclassic? Stefan's fault. Hate the pay by the month VIP providing services players should just get anyway? Stefan's fault. Not being anti graal, being anti Stefan. He is making the wrong decisions and not listening. We need to make him listen.

Skill 05-01-2012 02:04 AM

actually its Unixmad. Stefan wants to do a lot of things but Unixmad wont let him. For example he was going to remove observer mode on Unholy Nation but Unixmad refused.

Koolaid 05-01-2012 02:07 AM

Yeah, we"ll protest but then he'll do something called "The GraalAct" and he'll raise prices on EVERYTHING. Then starts the Graal Revolution.

Kane 05-01-2012 02:10 AM

seems like someone has a crush on stefan ;)

Higbey 05-01-2012 02:11 AM

Protest doesn't help. It just punishes the gps and staff. Stefan and Unixmad won't be affected, and yes skill, but I don't bother trying to tell people to contact Unixmad because he probably won't realy understand what the hell people are saying as he isn't adept at English, let alone Internet rage.

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Posted by Herb_P2P
seems like someone has a crush on stefan ;)

I'd crush him but without him the game is over. He may be a great scripter, but he sucks at running a game.

NCJohn 05-01-2012 02:12 AM

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Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 106504)
seems like someone has a crush on stefan ;)

he so dreamy

Higbey 05-01-2012 02:25 AM

Back on topic please

Twinny 05-01-2012 02:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 106505)
I'd crush him but without him the game is over.

And then poor Higbey would have nowhere to direct his angst! :(:(:(:(

Ace 05-01-2012 02:32 AM

just tell me where he lives >:0

Twinny 05-01-2012 02:40 AM

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Posted by Ace (Post 106537)
just tell me where he lives >:0

Paris.

Chaotic 05-01-2012 02:47 AM

He's doesn't want trading to ruin this server like it did with Era, so in a way its a good thing.

Then again, players just want to trade ammo and burgers, not multi-million dollar houses and extremly rare hats.

Higbey 05-01-2012 02:49 AM

Quote:

Posted by Chaotic
He's doesn't want trading to ruin this server like it did with Era, so in a way its a good thing.

Then again, players just want to trade ammo and burgers, not multi-million dollar houses and extremly rare hats.

Trading didn't ruin pc era

Chaotic 05-01-2012 02:51 AM

Yeah it did. That why it was reset a few years back.

Twinny 05-01-2012 02:53 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 106553)
Trading didn't ruin pc era

Trading can lead to a ruined economy without first doing a lot of forethought. Take Runescape for example, I havn't played in a while so maybe this is resolved but the economy was pretty **** as a small percantage of players were billionaires while everyone else was poor. Party hats were a currency =/

If this were to be implemented, they would need to determine who to reduce the risk of an economy collapse.

iSilver 05-01-2012 02:58 AM

Wah Wah. Cry more please.

Higbey 05-01-2012 03:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by Twinny (Post 106557)
Trading can lead to a ruined economy without first doing a lot of forethought. Take Runescape for example, I havn't played in a while so maybe this is resolved but the economy was pretty **** as a small percantage of players were billionaires while everyone else was poor. Party hats were a currency =/

If this were to be implemented, they would need to determine who to reduce the risk of an economy collapse.

i dont really see how it can get so bad in this case, there is no losing of items, the only way to get them is to buy them, meaning someone has to buy it, and the only way to get rid of it is to drop it or trade it, and theres like a infinite supply, theres no money envolved, so theres no inflation or depression, no competition, you cant trade money or make money off of trades.

plus it can still be done now, it is just not safe and theres scamming, yet theres no economic collapse or anything, so i dont think its that bad, plus stefan would trust snk to be smart with it, no, i think the reason stefan wont allow it is because it will affect gralat pack purchases.

Defiant 05-01-2012 03:15 AM

Oh I don't know... Hmm make items droppable but make no safe way to trade them. More like an economy based on scamming.

Koolaid 05-01-2012 03:23 AM

Lets find out where he lives. Paris. Zip and stuff and then do what they did in the Boston Massacre you know just without shootings.

DragonRider 05-01-2012 03:33 AM

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Posted by Koolaid (Post 106585)
Lets find out where he lives. Paris. Zip and stuff and then do what they did in the Boston Massacre you know just without shootings.

Yes, I'm sure that a bunch of 12 year old can just ask their mom for a plane ticket to Paris and protest.

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 03:39 AM

Higbey u r just a blamer.

Y u don't make ur own game to enjoy?

I don't think we need weapon trading system at all, if you want new weapon, just dig for it or buy pack, it's ez.

Zero02 05-01-2012 03:41 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106603)
Higbey u r just a blamer.

Y u don't make ur own game to enjoy?

I don't think we need weapon trading system at all, if you want new weapon, just dig for it or buy pack, it's ez.

Look who's speaking from the one who does nothing and you need to work on your spelling

Higbey 05-01-2012 03:42 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU
Higbey u r just a blamer.

Y u don't make ur own game to enjoy?

I don't think we need weapon trading system at all, if you want new weapon, just dig for it or buy pack, it's ez.

Yea. Just pay money for a in game weapon. Do you just use a parents credit card? Do you have a job?

This thread isn't about your guild or the subway, so you can leave. All you've done on here is whine how you feel a guild that's done nothing for the game deserves stuff it was never promised.

I'm sure Snk will love seeing how ungrateful you are for receiving all these buildings in era when you just have a guild and don't actually improve the game.

Zero02 05-01-2012 03:44 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 106606)
Yea. Just pay money for a in game weapon. Do you just use a parents credit card? Do you have a job?

This thread isn't about your guild or the subway, so you can leave. All you've done on here is whine how you feel a guild that's done nothing for the game deserves stuff it was never promised.

I'm sure Snk will love seeing how ungrateful you are for receiving all these buildings in era when you just have a guild and don't actually improve the game.

don't forget she takes all the credit of her fellow followers

Ace 05-01-2012 03:47 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106603)
Higbey u r just a blamer.

Y u don't make ur own game to enjoy?

I don't think we need weapon trading system at all, if you want new weapon, just dig for it or buy pack, it's ez.

You get your hoes and bitches to do the work

Tricxta 05-01-2012 03:50 AM

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Posted by Twinny (Post 106557)
Trading can lead to a ruined economy without first doing a lot of forethought. Take Runescape for example, I havn't played in a while so maybe this is resolved but the economy was pretty **** as a small percantage of players were billionaires while everyone else was poor. Party hats were a currency =/

If this were to be implemented, they would need to determine who to reduce the risk of an economy collapse.

This isn't the case anymore, the staff give great consideration to the economy and try keep it balanced, there is no hoarding. Sure every game will have the rich players but what does it matter. Sure they can influence the price on certain items by buying them out in order to increase the demand and hence the price but so what? The items are still obtainable...

As it is most player owned items are quite easy to obtain as long as you're willing to grind for them or buy graalat packs. In this it's the avoidance of buying graalat packs and instead recycling already used graalats that imo makes unixmad object to the whole thing.

He can never have enough money... ever. People need to stop complaining and either go on with their usual buisness or go to a different game where the game's run for players rather then maximum profit.

Higbey 05-01-2012 03:55 AM

Quote:

Posted by Tricxta

This isn't the case anymore, the staff give great consideration of the economy and try keep it balanced, there is no hoarding. Sure every game will have the rich players but what does it matter. Sure they can influence the price on certain items by buying them out in order to increase the demand and hence the price but so what? The items are still obtainable...

As it is most player owned items are quite easy to obtain as long as you're willing to grind for them or buy graalat packs. In this it's the avoidance of buying graalat packs and instead recycling already used graalats that imo makes unixmad object to the whole thing.

He can never have enough money... ever.

I agree with this part

Skill 05-01-2012 04:08 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 106553)
Trading didn't ruin pc era

Trading on Era ruined the economy and caused people to want a reset for the past couple years.

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:14 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106603)
Higbey u r just a blamer.

Y u don't make ur own game to enjoy?

I don't think we need weapon trading system at all, if you want new weapon, just dig for it or buy pack, it's ez.

considering i highly even doubt you even thought about what you posted, probably cause you google translate a lot, and that YOU yourself make your own gang dig for you for perm spots, your argument is now invalid. just leave. kthx.

Higbey, a trading system would kind of ruin iEra. We'd have noobs being scammed by trading their BAR for something nooby like 1000 burgers. it would just cause more problems.

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 04:17 AM

"I don't think we need weapon trading system" that's all I said. Ok?

Calm down I'm not taking about the stations lol

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:19 AM

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Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106668)
"I don't think we need weapon trading system" that's all I said. Ok?

Calm down I'm not taking about the stations lol

who here mentioned the stations?

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 04:19 AM

If you want weapons, go buy it, win events, join auctions... That's all.

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:21 AM

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Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106673)
If you want weapons, go buy it, win events, join auctions... That's all.

your statements are now just idiotic. i refer to you to the big "X" at the top right hand of your internet explorer window.

Higbey 05-01-2012 04:23 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU
If you want weapons, go buy it, win events, join auctions... That's all.

This doesn't have to do with this... Pardon me, I forget you are under the false assumption that your ineptitude in the English dialect means that you have the permission to lunge into threads without reading or understanding all the post.

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 04:23 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 106606)
Yea. Just pay money for a in game weapon. Do you just use a parents credit card? Do you have a job?

This thread isn't about your guild or the subway, so you can leave. All you've done on here is whine how you feel a guild that's done nothing for the game deserves stuff it was never promised.

I'm sure Snk will love seeing how ungrateful you are for receiving all these buildings in era when you just have a guild and don't actually improve the game.

So if this thread is not about my guild or the subway, then I must leave it?

NCJohn 05-01-2012 04:24 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106668)
"I don't think we need weapon trading system" that's all I said. Ok?

Calm down I'm not taking about the stations lol

Why bring the station into this? It has nothing to do with this thread. This thread is for people to share their opinion about some sort of trading system(or as i believe what higbey intended originally, bash Stefan).

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 04:25 AM

My point is I don't think iEra needs a weapon trading system ok?

it's useless.

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:26 AM

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Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106679)
So if this thread is not about my guild or the subway, then I must leave it?

No you're MUST not leave, but by bringing up subjects such as your base or station into a thread that has nothing to do with it, you just trying to act cocky and its bluntly stupid.

NCJohn 05-01-2012 04:26 AM

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Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106679)
So if this thread is not about my guild or the subway, then I must leave it?

That's not what theyre saying; they're saying that you shouldn't try to throw the topic of the thread off to something completely irrelevant.

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:26 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106683)
My point is I don't think iEra needs a weapon trading system ok?

it's useless.

state your reasons why its useless?

Higbey 05-01-2012 04:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU

So if this thread is not about my guild or the subway, then I must leave it?

I do believe everyone would be much happier if you left our forum all together, and take your slaves with you.

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:28 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 106690)
I do believe everyone would be much happier if you left our forum all together, and take your slaves with you.

*puts my head down*
ill leave :(
*leaves*

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 04:33 AM

I am not bring a topic of station into this NCJ, read my post. I told Higbey to calm down himself cuz I'm NOT talkin about the subway here. (cuz he asked me to leave)

well HP, there r a lot of chances for u got get weapon already, shops, auctions, events... So I think u guys should stop blaming iEra stuff. they made iEra and we can play it when we want, isn't that enough?

Oh so I must leave cuz I disagreed wat u say ? Higbey

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:35 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106694)
I am not bring a topic of station into this NCJ, read my post. I told Higbey to calm down himself cuz I'm NOT talkin about the subway here. (cuz he asked me to leave)

well HP, there r a lot of chances for u got get weapon already, shops, auctions, events... So I think u guys should stop blaming iEra stuff. they made iEra and we can play it when we want, isn't that enough?

Oh so I must leave cuz I disagreed wat u say ? Higbey

excuse me, we aren't blaming iEra for anything. Higbey was giving his suggestion on why iEra doesn't have a legit trading system. I've played iEra since it's release, and since day 1, people have been asking for a trading system.

NCJohn 05-01-2012 04:35 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106694)
I am not bring a topic of station into this NCJ, read my post. I told Higbey to calm down himself cuz I'm NOT talkin about the subway here. (cuz he asked me to leave)

well HP, there r a lot of chances for u got get weapon already, shops, auctions, events... So I think u guys should stop blaming iEra stuff. they made iEra and we can play it when we want, isn't that enough?

Oh so I must leave cuz I disagreed wat u say ? Higbey

You did mention the station when you randomly ended your post with "calm down I'm not talking about the station" when no one had even mentioned it. Alls I'm saying is that you should focus on the topic at hand on a thread. Also they are not complaining about iEra staff they're suggesting ideas which players are more then welcome to do on the forums.

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 04:36 AM

If you don't want waste ur money, u can dig for weapon.

I got my bar by digging it only costed 4 days.

Higbey 05-01-2012 04:36 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU
I am not bring a topic of station into this NCJ, read my post. I told Higbey to calm down himself cuz I'm NOT talkin about the subway here. (cuz he asked me to leave)

well HP, there r a lot of chances for u got get weapon already, shops, auctions, events... So I think u guys should stop blaming iEra stuff. they made iEra and we can play it when we want, isn't that enough?


*facepalm* read them original post. It says not to blame staff, they all want it! Snk wants it! It's just Stefan that is the problem, he and Unixmad are the ones not allowing it, I think Snk should just do it anyway, what is Stefan going to do? He won't fire him, he can't dock his pay, he is too much of a cheapskate to pay his employees. It's the staff making it better. Stefan is holding us back now.

Mayu EBIZOU 05-01-2012 04:37 AM

U guys just misunderstood wat I say xD well it happens sometimes so I don't really care.

HomoPanda 05-01-2012 04:37 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU (Post 106699)
If you don't want waste ur money, u can dig for weapon.

I got my bar by digging it only costed 4 days.

you yourself didn't sololy dig the BAR, your entire gang didn't base for 4 days because you had members dig shells for you.

NCJohn 05-01-2012 04:38 AM

*smashes head through wall*

Higbey 05-01-2012 04:39 AM

Quote:

Posted by Mayu EBIZOU
If you don't want waste ur money, u can dig for weapon.

I got my bar by digging it only costed 4 days.

.... This is irrelavent. It's trading system. Liek for everything, not just weapons. Please read the original thread, or wait for someone fluent in Japanese and English to translate it for you do you can understand what it is..


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