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Higbey 09-11-2011 08:48 PM

9/11 items
 
apparently now there is a shop in era that sells, yes sells, 9/11 things. to show support for 9/11 players need to buy the signs, they arent just given to players. this is capitalizing off a national tragedy.didnt we learn enough from what happened with the nexus last year? sensitive topics like this shouldnt be added into graal, and if they are, then certainly no one should be making money off of it. this is like those people that try to sell people rubble from the towers as memoirs and "artifacts" and make money off of it.

this should be free so players can use it to show support without needing to pay, capitalizing off of 9/11...for shame, and to top it all off snk deleted my posts about it and closed the thread so i couldnt say anything more about it.

so i made my own thread so me and fowlplay4s opinion of this being offensive can be seen and discussed openly.

NCJohn 09-11-2011 08:53 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9550)
apparently now there is a shop in era that sells, yes sells, 9/11 things. to show support for 9/11 players need to buy the signs, they arent just given to players. this is capitalizing off a national tragedy.didnt we learn enough from what happened with the nexus last year? sensitive topics like this shouldnt be added into graal, and if they are, then certainly no one should be making money off of it. this is like those people that try to sell people rubble from the towers as memoirs and "artifacts" and make money off of it.

this should be free so players can use it to show support without needing to pay, capitalizing off of 9/11...for shame, and to top it all off snk deleted my posts about it and closed the thread so i couldnt say anything more about it.

so i made my own thread so me and fowlplay4s opinion of this being offensive can be seen and discussed openly.

Yeah I do admit, it is a touchy topic and I personally think the items should have been free.

snk 09-11-2011 09:02 PM

You're entitled to your opinion. I'm glad you've made your own thread.

We're not asking you to buy the items. We gave two shields free. It's not capitalising from a nations tragedy, it's bringing people together.

Higbey 09-11-2011 09:07 PM

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Posted by snk (Post 9561)
it's bringing people together.

for a price. it doesnt cost you money to make that virtual sign and stuff. your not losing money if you made it all free. i dont see why you seem to think its fair to be getting money from peoples support. im sure unixmad and stefan wont get upset if you explain how sensitive a topic this is for americans.

and if they arent the ones pressuring you to make money off this stuff, then well shame on you.

snk 09-11-2011 09:14 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9570)
for a price. it doesnt cost you money to make that virtual sign and stuff. your not losing money if you made it all free. i dont see why you seem to think its fair to be getting money from peoples support. im sure unixmad and stefan wont get upset if you explain how sensitive a topic this is for americans.

and if they arent the ones pressuring you to make money off this stuff, then well shame on you.

They don't have anything to do with this. I made the prices low and not over priced- they're not expensive.

Why should I be ashamed? I'm happy with the result, players are happy and are offering each other support- what more could you want from an online game?

callimuc 09-11-2011 09:15 PM

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Posted by snk (Post 9578)
what more could you want from an online game?

Probably that everything would be free and a demon religion support.

snk 09-11-2011 09:16 PM

Oh yeah- duh

Higbey 09-11-2011 09:17 PM

let me ask you this. if it doesnt have to do with the money, then why did you make these items cost so players had to pay for them to show support?

snk 09-11-2011 09:21 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9585)
let me ask you this. if it doesnt have to do with the money, then why did you make these items cost so players had to pay for them to show support?

let me ask you this, when did I say they had to pay to show support? :dazed:

I can understand some people won't like it- I'm sorry you didn't get the things you wanted for free :rolleyes:

NCJohn 09-11-2011 09:22 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9585)
let me ask you this. if it doesnt have to do with the money, then why did you make these items cost so players had to pay for them to show support?

You dont need to buy the items to show support, no one is forcing people to buy the items :p

monk 09-11-2011 09:23 PM

i feel like graal is celebrating 9/11

Higbey 09-11-2011 09:24 PM

well still, there is no reason why they are doing this other than to make money, making money off of 9/11 is just wrong

snk 09-11-2011 09:24 PM

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Posted by monk (Post 9591)
i feel like graal is celebrating 9/11

You mean reminisce.

MattKan 09-11-2011 09:25 PM

I'm gonna side with Higbey on this. I watched a lot of 9/11 information on TV, and it really is a huge tragedy. You may have to live in America to understand...

No offense to you, I think the signs and everything are great, but they really should be free. An easy solution would be to apologize to the players who purchased the shields, make them free, and move the cars and stuff to a different shop, maybe celebrating election day?

No hard feelings.

And it's not about "not getting what you want for free", it seems like you are abusing this national tragedy to make money. I'm sure that's not your goal, but that's certainly what it looks like, and it may upset some players.

snk 09-11-2011 09:25 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9592)
well still, there is no reason why they are doing this other than to make money, making money off of 9/11 is just wrong

Yeah, lets make money for a tragedy. gg

Dusty 09-11-2011 09:25 PM

http://i.imgur.com/sJ5iCl.jpg

NCJohn 09-11-2011 09:25 PM

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Posted by monk (Post 9591)
i feel like graal is celebrating 9/11

celebrating it would be like " happy 9/11, have a great 9/11" alls they are doing is remembering what happened.

snk 09-11-2011 09:27 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 9594)
I'm gonna side with Higbey on this. I watched a lot of 9/11 information on TV, and it really is a huge tragedy. You may have to live in America to understand...

No offense to you, I think the signs and everything are great, but they really should be free. An easy solution would be to apologize to the players who purchased the shields, make them free, and move the cars and stuff to a different shop, maybe celebrating election day?

No hard feelings.

As again, we're not asking you to buy the products.

MattKan 09-11-2011 09:32 PM

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Posted by snk (Post 9598)
As again, we're not asking you to buy the products.

Yeah, after I submitted that about six new posts appeared above it.

I've changed my mind, and I'm not gonna make a big deal about it. I encourage others to do the same.

Higbey 09-11-2011 09:34 PM

the thing is there shouldnt be products to buy in the first place, its supposed to be free, id understand if it actually cost you guys money to make it, but this is just plain profiting off of it.

your starting to remind me of unixmad, the whole "if you dont like it then leave" attitude, refusing to budge when it comes to money, and basically never listening to players.

NCJohn 09-11-2011 09:36 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9607)
the thing is there shouldnt be products to buy in the first place, its supposed to be free, id understand if it actually cost you guys money to make it, but this is just plain profiting off of it.

your starting to remind me of unixmad, the whole "if you dont like it then leave" attitude, refusing to budge when it comes to money, and basically never listening to players.

never listening to players? lol higbey i dont know if you know this but over the past month snk has added several player asked updates.

MattKan 09-11-2011 09:38 PM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 9609)
never listening to players? lol higbey i dont know if you know this but over the past month snk has added several player asked updates.

exactly

Higbey 09-11-2011 09:41 PM

well it certainly doesnt seem like that right now. the bar gun, now this..

okay i was a little harsh with the unixmad thing, but still, i hate it when people start acting like that, and i got a bit offend when i learned how you guys were making money off of 9/11

snk 09-11-2011 09:45 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9613)
well it certainly doesnt seem like that right now. the bar gun, now this..

okay i was a little harsh with the unixmad thing, but still, i hate it when people start acting like that, and i got a bit offend when i learned how you guys were making money off of 9/11

its ok <3

I was expecting some controversy- I have been contemplating for the past week, and today I decided to go for it. It really wasn't intended to offend anyone. For that I apologize <3<3<3 xx

Higbey 09-11-2011 09:46 PM

I feel the proper thing to do would to make it free, since you apparently dont care about making money off of it right?

snk 09-11-2011 09:48 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9618)
I feel the proper thing to do would to make it free, since you apparently dont care about making money off of it right?

I don't care for it, but I wouldn't give it for free.
There are a lot of stuff free on Era and there will be more stuff free in the future. This isn't one of those free things. Sorry.

Higbey 09-11-2011 09:56 PM

i still dont quiet understand why you guys refuse to budge when it comes to things like this, but i guess there must be some reason that your not allowed to tell us, you seem too nice to do something like this just to make money off of a tragedy, hopefully next year things will be different.

snk 09-11-2011 09:59 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 9624)
i still dont quiet understand why you guys refuse to budge when it comes to things like this, but i guess there must be some reason that your not allowed to tell us, you seem too nice to do something like this just to make money off of a tragedy, hopefully next year things will be different.

You're so right.
Spoiler
It's not in white text, it's not in cryptic... it won't be free

Dragu 09-11-2011 10:00 PM

Could u please stop this? It makes me sad how people are really haveing an angry duscussion about a tragoedia.
Snk is right. They don't have to buy it. they show enough support by using the shields.
and even if they want to buy something... 150 for a flag is very low. Even if u just started the game u have 200 g start money.
Kthxbye and stop please :(

Papyrus 09-11-2011 10:03 PM

I love the fact how he completely ignored dusty's post.

Shaun 09-11-2011 10:36 PM

:D I like that pic Dusty. And who cares, it's a game! You shouldn't be selling things for 9/11, I agree, but people buy them if they want, if they don't they don't. Not like there's peer pressure in Graal.
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Posted by Player
"Dude! I got the 9/11 hat! BUY IT NOW!"


Katniss 09-12-2011 12:55 AM

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Posted by Shaun (Post 9657)
:D I like that pic Dusty. And who cares, it's a game! You shouldn't be selling things for 9/11, I agree, but people buy them if they want, if they don't they don't. Not like there's peer pressure in Graal.

I second this

BboyEatsbacon 09-12-2011 01:18 AM

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Posted by Papyrus (Post 9629)
I love the fact how he completely ignored dusty's post.

He sees what he wants to, doesn't see what he doesn't want to.

briguy 09-12-2011 01:27 AM

I agree with higbey

monk 09-12-2011 01:46 AM

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Posted by snk (Post 9593)
You mean reminisce.

ya

Maikeru 09-12-2011 08:13 AM

Everybody cashes on 9/11 Higbey...
Its wrong and disgusting but face the facts...
Theres discounts and free stuff crowded all over the world because of it...
And besides, like Dragu said, its 150 gralats... To be honest, that isn't so hard to earn

Joey 09-12-2011 09:11 AM

I BOUGHT THE CAR, SKATEBOARD, 100-150 OF EACH HOLDABLE SIGN, 15 9-11 BANNERS, ABOUT 10 FLAG RUGS, AND EVERY HAT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT. I WAS TOUCHED THAT (if im correct,) SNK, from the UK, MADE(or helped make) THESE EVEN THOUGH HE ISNT AMERICAN? (no offense if u are) who cares if u had to pay for these things? be happy.. on classic, u got a free hat... woo hoo. here we got a lot of choices of stuff... and TWO free things

Notorious 09-12-2011 09:19 AM

Really pointless arguing.
R.I.P 9/11 Victims.

snk 09-12-2011 05:31 PM

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Posted by Joey (Post 9845)
I BOUGHT THE CAR, SKATEBOARD, 100-150 OF EACH HOLDABLE SIGN, 15 9-11 BANNERS, ABOUT 10 FLAG RUGS, AND EVERY HAT TO SHOW MY SUPPORT. I WAS TOUCHED THAT (if im correct,) SNK, from the UK, MADE(or helped make) THESE EVEN THOUGH HE ISNT AMERICAN? (no offense if u are) who cares if u had to pay for these things? be happy.. on classic, u got a free hat... woo hoo. here we got a lot of choices of stuff... and TWO free things

Thank you

I'm English and I made everything other than the skateboard (Monkey made) hehe

thank you

Dragu 09-12-2011 06:40 PM

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Posted by iDec (Post 9850)
Really pointless arguing.
R.I.P 9/11 Victims.

Agree total. As i said, u shouldn't discuss about a national tragoedia where 1000s of ppl died. Who else could be seriously arguing about a price of a disaster. Only 1 Person. Higbey.
Srsly stop.

xRiku :D 09-13-2011 05:26 AM

snk, the worst part is that you made all the prices 911.
or 916.
This is very sad, i usually expect amazing things from you.
i.e the portal gun.

Dusty 09-13-2011 05:36 AM

Wish I could post the video from the Colbert Report episode today. Summed it all up pretty nicely.

snk 09-13-2011 08:40 AM

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Posted by xRiku :D (Post 10236)
snk, the worst part is that you made all the prices 911.
or 916.
This is very sad, i usually expect amazing things from you.
i.e the portal gun.

Why is it sad? o_O

callimuc 09-13-2011 10:59 AM

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Posted by xRiku :D (Post 10236)
snk, the worst part is that you made all the prices 911.
or 916.
This is very sad, i usually expect amazing things from you.
i.e the portal gun.

Well just that the fact is that the hats where 911 and 2x 931.. dont see anything sad on it.

Dusty 09-13-2011 06:17 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 10237)
Wish I could post the video from the Colbert Report episode today. Summed it all up pretty nicely.

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...iefportunities

Chingpao 09-14-2011 01:20 AM

It is wrong how they charge you for these items.

WastelandDan 09-16-2011 02:26 PM

People complaining and saying tasteless capitalism is not American....WOW.

That is exactly what America is, I know I lived here all my life. I mean have any of you wanna be junior hippie/commie ranters been to a store lately or does momy still go for you?

fp4 09-16-2011 02:39 PM

It was just a shallow memorial with a tasteless gift shop attached to it. It should have never been made.

Dusty 09-16-2011 04:46 PM

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Posted by fp4 (Post 11078)
It was just a shallow memorial with a tasteless gift shop attached to it. It should have never been made.

Stefan deleted all the complaints on the official forums under the guise that it was all spam and that "people were making fun of 9/11."

Joey 09-17-2011 08:09 AM

im just seriously disappointed that someone would have the nerve to complain about this. look at the show pawn stars. how often does someone die, someone else makes a shirt with their name on it, and it sells for thousands??
these 9/11 items dont have to be free. they are simple merchandise to help everyone remember what a tragic day 9/11 really was. its just memorabilia. (<-- idk if i spelled that right)


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