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Chelterrar 05-16-2012 04:24 AM

Move "unstuck me" Point
 
Well I think that the unstuck me point should be moved. Before it teleported you to a city of peace and quiet, now you have to fear not to die. I know that its still in a safe zone, but in the Pk zone around it you are easlily slain.

Lets say I want to go to Onnet. I have to unstuck and then I have to go through a total War zone where its normal to die 3 or more times, also this takes alot of time, just to check out the new things in holiday shop.

Also people throw Bushes at you which sucks when you unstucked with 0,5 health points left.

The place for the peacefull people got destroyed when you added PK to Graal City. I have to say I like Onnet better anyway, but still its a long and difficult way to get there.

Also Onnet isnt really fit for being such an important town. I guess that alot of people wll stay in the area around statue-tree-thingy and if there come as many as before in whole main town then lag will be enormous and everything is crowded like hell.

How about you add some more space to Onnet, not in buildings but outside. Add a few chairs and table and make people wanna go there. Also move the unstuck me point maybe between archery range and that bar. Attract peoplwho dont like to PK and make them feel happy. Graal isnt a Game where you try to get the most kills or run for your life. It should be open to almost any kind of type.

Respect the people who dont want to kill

Chelterrar

PS: And if youre just here to tell me PK is awesome then you may leave immediatly please....

Nyx 05-16-2012 04:26 AM

Unstuck me is not in a PK area anymore, go check

Bin 05-16-2012 04:28 AM

They can still throw bushes and injure people that way.

AjaxAmsterdam 05-16-2012 05:45 AM

SNC VS. BurgerRefuge
 
The new pk
update my be quite bad, but at least the staff are changing SOMETHING that lets the players know that they still exist. It still needs to fixed up and balanced but first of all iClassic needs an official OSL (Online start local). A building where everybody logs into, and unsticks to, and hangs out at. So since the pk update made the outside dangerous... what should be the OSL? Burger refuge is currently the building with the most population. Adding a basement to it would let more people fill in. But the question is... Burger refuge or SNC? Yes. That poor little SNC building that was made long ago and very much forgotten. Of course the spar rooms would need to be updated, the pk rooms should have no other way out other then unstick me, and the big spar room at the very very top right should be made into a guild spar room. (The normal spar rooms at snc should be practice rooms since battle arena is the real deal.) Oh and hey, snc even has a bar! So tell me if you agree with this idea and want them to update the snc and change unstick location to the no pk outside of snc. (Note: The outside of snc would need to be renovated into a porch with stairs to at least 2 more directions so players wont crowd the area. ) VOTE YOUR CHOICE NOW! 1) Burger refuge 2) SNC 3) Im a rebel so change nothing.

Bandit 05-16-2012 05:48 AM

Would feel cozy,but...

Skyzer 05-16-2012 05:53 AM

OSL should be Brothers' House.

AjaxAmsterdam 05-16-2012 05:56 AM

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Posted by Skyzer (Post 117093)
OSL should be Brothers' House.

Too far away from the main city. Could be sister whatever her name is's house like on pc but it would be waywayway to crowded. I personnaly vote for SNC.

Rufus 05-16-2012 06:40 AM

Sister Gertrudes.

iHawk 05-16-2012 06:45 AM

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Posted by Rufus
Sister Gertrudes.

Like in classic pc. What a concept:p

Kiwi 05-16-2012 06:56 AM

Though SNC would be logical due to its size, I would say Zol's Pub.

Rufus 05-16-2012 07:01 AM

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Posted by iHawk (Post 117101)
Like in classic pc. What a concept:p

..or just Graal Classic in general. Sister Gertrude's orphanage seems the most logical due to what it is, where it is, the routes it has access to, etc.

Ash Ketchum 05-16-2012 09:03 AM

Pk is awesome!

But seriously they need to make ports to the main parts of graal city.

Kiwi 05-16-2012 09:30 AM

I think remaking GC a PK zone was a terrible idea. It was okay when iClassic was young, but now it's terrible. The playercount is just too high for it. If they haven't already put it back, they should really soon.

Graal City is, and always has been, the center of Classic. If they change the unstuck me point to somewhere else... It's just stupid. Graal City has that cool little blue circle. It's MADE to be the unstuck me point.

Therefore, this bush thing needs to be fixed, and the unstuck me point should never change.

Chelterrar 05-16-2012 10:18 AM

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Posted by Kiwi. (Post 117116)
I think remaking GC a PK zone was a terrible idea. It was okay when iClassic was young, but now it's terrible. The playercount is just too high for it. If they haven't already put it back, they should really soon.

Graal City is, and always has been, the center of Classic. If they change the unstuck me point to somewhere else... It's just stupid. Graal City has that cool little blue circle. It's MADE to be the unstuck me point.

Therefore, this bush thing needs to be fixed, and the unstuck me point should never change.

Totally agree with you

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Graal City has that cool little blue circle. It's MADE to be the unstuck me point.
Give me 4 min and six seconds to make you a new one.

2 min to start editor
2 seconds searching it
4 seconds placing it
2 min saving, opening email and sending it to you :P

:D

Pazx 05-16-2012 10:27 AM

It should have stayed PK, except for the area immediate to the unstick me point.

Notorious# 05-16-2012 10:33 AM

Why would they change the main point to a guild house (SNC)
That's just plain stupid.

Pazx 05-16-2012 10:42 AM

Dude stop making 5 threads a day for ideas that you had 20 seconds ago.

Chelterrar 05-16-2012 11:11 AM

We should make a House with a spar, some games like football and lots of fun things to play with friends. People should unstuck in there so if they dont wanna get pked they can have fun in there. It will create new friendships and people will have fun :D

Kiwi 05-16-2012 11:18 AM

Cheltarrar, I just checked email, I you didn't :(.

But you don't understand. That cool square is a monument of the ages. It has stood as a beacon of hope to those stuck in a corner whilst being attacked by baddies for years. Sure, the square can be remade somewhere else, but can those memories?

That, my friend, is what I want you to think about.

Notorious# 05-16-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Posted by Chelterrar (Post 117141)
We should make a House with a spar, some games like football and lots of fun things to play with friends. People should unstuck in there so if they dont wanna get pked they can have fun in there. It will create new friendships and people will have fun :D

Sounds like an event house.

Notorious# 05-16-2012 11:50 AM

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Posted by Kiwi. (Post 117142)
Cheltarrar, I just checked email, I you didn't :(.

But you don't understand. That cool square is a monument of the ages. It has stood as a beacon of hope to those stuck in a corner whilst being attacked by baddies for years. Sure, the square can be remade somewhere else, but can those memories?

That, my friend, is what I want you to think about.

Not sure about old times, but on classic PC the unstuck me point is the orphanage.

Xavier 05-16-2012 12:42 PM

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Posted by Kiwi. (Post 117142)
Cheltarrar, I just checked email, I you didn't :(.

But you don't understand. That cool square is a monument of the ages. It has stood as a beacon of hope to those stuck in a corner whilst being attacked by baddies for years. Sure, the square can be remade somewhere else, but can those memories?

That, my friend, is what I want you to think about.

LOL.

iHot 05-16-2012 01:53 PM

Lol amazing how people complain, PK in Graal City brings back memories about how ALL of the city used to kill eachother (as PK was enabled till admins took it out due to complaints and a rising playercount).

Ryan 05-16-2012 02:41 PM

There only testing this out. if you like it or hate just feedback it

Tyler 05-16-2012 03:33 PM

Changing the unstick me points is fine, but never would I like them to change the unstuck me point. That is in the middle where people can easily choose which direction they would want to go.

Maxy 05-16-2012 04:18 PM

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Posted by Chelterrar (Post 117042)
Lets say I want to go to Onnet. I have to unstuck and then I have to go through a total War zone where its normal to die 3 or more times, also this takes alot of time, just to check out the new things in holiday shop.

who the hell do you die 3 times going to onnet? 99% pk isn't allowed and so I conclude you must be terrible at this game.

Maikeru 05-16-2012 04:54 PM

Balamb Island

Skyzer 05-16-2012 06:42 PM

iGraal is so ****ing stupid.

Aciid Ph3wl 05-16-2012 07:20 PM

Whats Wrong with PK?

Madhog 05-16-2012 07:48 PM

Don't change the unstuck me it's fine. Unstick me sure but nothing else

AjaxAmsterdam 05-16-2012 08:24 PM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 117129)
Dude stop making 5 threads a day for ideas that you had 20 seconds ago.

Got a problem with that?

Winter 05-16-2012 08:30 PM

I think players will flock to a new local building naturally if the do not like the Burger Refuge. I do not like the idea of always logging on to the same area, it would become a burden for any device to go from the loading screen straight to a largely populated area.

"Unstuck me" takes players to the spot where "unstick me" used to take them, and "unstick me" now takes players to a house nearby. With the new PK areas in Graal City (which I am in favor of), the "unstuck me" spot should be moved to either Zol's Pub or Sister Gertrude's. Since Sister Gertrude's is so convenient, I think this may be the better way to go as Rufus said. However, Zol's Pub is not a bad alternative.

Furryamigo 05-16-2012 08:31 PM

There is no consequence for dying, so it doesn't really matter.

twilit 05-17-2012 03:36 AM

I agree that "unstuck me" point shouldnt be in graal city anymore. However, moving it somewhere else (ie Onnet) will only make people congregate at that new spot, just like graal city, creating same graalcity-like lag, thus not really improving graal city's problem, but loving it.

So heres my sol'n.
1. Make Onnet pk zone. This would leave no more major areas for large numbers of people to congregate and make lag.
2. Just get rid of "unstuck me." Ridiculous? No. Just use "unstick me" instead, that way not EVERYONE is warping to the same spot.

Winter 05-17-2012 04:39 AM

Quote:

Posted by twilit (Post 117533)
Just get rid of "unstuck me." Ridiculous? No. Just use "unstick me" instead, that way not EVERYONE is warping to the same spot.

Too many people said "unstuck me" and complained that it didn't work, so it was added later. Probably many younger kids you wouldn't find in a national spelling bee. In 2009 we all had to say "unstick me", and it worked fine. This is the only obstacle I see.

Pazx 05-17-2012 12:57 PM

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Posted by AjaxAmsterdam (Post 117296)
Got a problem with that?

Yes. You're cluttering up the forums with a jumble of poor grammar and bad ideas.

Madhog 05-17-2012 03:30 PM

New unstuck me
 
The unstuck me is now Sister Gertrudes. Opinions?

Talon 05-17-2012 03:35 PM

Don't like it. I preferred the center of Graal City.

Xavier 05-17-2012 03:44 PM

I like.

Daphne 05-17-2012 03:46 PM

Omg :O i completely dislike it

RoboGuy 05-17-2012 04:52 PM

I hate it! I liked the original unstuck me since it had like paths directly to swamp, battle arena and other places(These are places i mostly go) today i tried unstuck me and i ended up in the place you end up in pc, so i had to go all that way to get to Battle Arena(yes im a lazy person) but what im trying to point out is its not that good in my opinion.

Winter 05-17-2012 08:03 PM

I haven't used it yet, but this works out better in my opinion. At the old spot, people would huddle around and attack anyone who unsticks there. It really was not a safe place, and Sister Gertrudes is a pretty convenient spot. You have paths to the swamp, castle, northern Graal and Graal City, and a short walk from the eastern side and Yorktown. I get the feeling Snowtown and Deadwood are going to be a longer walk any way you look at it, and I believe they were meant to be that way for the adventure's sake.

At the end of the day, the unstick function is really supposed to be used if you get stuck somewhere and cannot move or leave an area. It's just that 90% of the players use it as a warp to get somewhere faster. If you really are lazy and don't like the placement of the new unstick spot, don't travel as much. :P

iHot 05-17-2012 10:04 PM

I hate it but i guess with my horse i can still get to places...

Tyler 05-17-2012 11:05 PM

Move it back.

iHawk 05-17-2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Posted by Winter
I haven't used it yet, but this works out better in my opinion. At the old spot, people would huddle around and attack anyone who unsticks there. It really was not a safe place, and Sister Gertrudes is a pretty convenient spot. You have paths to the swamp, castle, northern Graal and Graal City, and a short walk from the eastern side and Yorktown. I get the feeling Snowtown and Deadwood are going to be a longer walk any way you look at it, and I believe they were meant to be that way for the adventure's sake.

At the end of the day, the unstick function is really supposed to be used if you get stuck somewhere and cannot move or leave an area. It's just that 90% of the players use it as a warp to get somewhere faster. If you really are lazy and don't like the placement of the new unstick spot, don't travel as much. :P

I agree, it really is for if you are STUCK. Not for warping. However, the level needs to be updated if they are going to keep it there <.>

Tyler 05-17-2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Posted by Winter (Post 117930)
I haven't used it yet, but this works out better in my opinion. At the old spot, people would huddle around and attack anyone who unsticks there. It really was not a safe place, and Sister Gertrudes is a pretty convenient spot. You have paths to the swamp, castle, northern Graal and Graal City, and a short walk from the eastern side and Yorktown. I get the feeling Snowtown and Deadwood are going to be a longer walk any way you look at it, and I believe they were meant to be that way for the adventure's sake.

At the end of the day, the unstick function is really supposed to be used if you get stuck somewhere and cannot move or leave an area. It's just that 90% of the players use it as a warp to get somewhere faster. If you really are lazy and don't like the placement of the new unstick spot, don't travel as much. :P

I disagree. I believe "unstick" should be used if someone is stuck and "unstuck" as a travel method since it was in the middle where you can conveniently choose the city you want from that point. They shouldn't have made Graal City a pk zone anyways because it's the main place where players interact and cross. Graal City ustuck spot had the same travel distance for both opposite cities like Snowtown and Sawmptown. Now it's off balance.

Talon 05-18-2012 12:02 AM

To be honest, the game was perfectly fine how it is... What was the reason they changed Graal City to a PK Zone? Whether it was overcrowding or RATE MY GP idlers, it honestly wasn't much of a problem. Graal City just seems deserted.

Pavi 05-18-2012 12:05 AM

I dont like it but would you rather be pked when you unstuck?

Tyler 05-18-2012 12:06 AM

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Posted by Agony (Post 118139)
To be honest, the game was perfectly fine how it is... What was the reason they changed Graal City to a PK Zone? Whether it was overcrowding or RATE MY GP idlers, it honestly wasn't much of a problem. Graal City just seems deserted.

Yeah, I don't see the point either. The purpose of them getting rid of the "rate my guild picture" and afk people is totally wasted now because they just sit on the chairs which are safe. It was a good go, but how about it is just changed back?

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Posted by Pavi (Post 118142)
I dont like it but would you rather be pked when you unstuck?

I wasn't pked even once when I used it.

Imprint 05-18-2012 12:59 AM

The point of "Unstick me" is to warp you if you get stuck, so why is it a big deal if its moved would you rather stay where you were?


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