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Bandit 05-30-2012 08:04 PM

Reply to snk about HW
 
First of all I have been answering your emails so I don't know why you have to lie about that. In fact I will have them posted up here sometime today.

1. Rush got HW to watch the trade, check his pmlogs which you probally havn't bothered to do.

2. Yes I did ask HW and vendihn to come watch. Vendihn came and summoned Witch. What more do you want?

The evidence is obvious, you are just to ignorant to see it.







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Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

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The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...


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The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...






















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Right before my eyes? What you have said is prosecuting evidence... rofl


Thanks,



Andrew.












On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Vargas if you want to know more.


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On May 30, 2555 BE, at 10:34 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





Duke, you're an idiot.



I'm not sticking up for HW, you're not providing any evidence. How can I punish someone if she has said / done nothing?



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



Not gonna argue this with you, if you wanna keep coming up with exscuses for her there is nothing I can do. The evidence is obvious yet you avoid it. You cannot fire a staff for something like this then not enforce it to others


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On May 30, 2555 BE, at 9:50 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





You clearly don't know Witch or the other one hahahaha


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



You must not know your own staff than, at least they were dating at the time.


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On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:07 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW and Rush are not dating.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



No I didn't, I said it wasn't as direct as Thunderstorms case. The evidence is obvious, the fact that she and Rush are dating makes it even more. It is up to you if you don't want to do anything, but this isn't the first time she has abused and this definately won't be the last seeming she doesn't get consequences for her actions. Thanks for looking into the case, but I don't know how much more evidence I can get than that.


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On May 29, 2555 BE, at 1:25 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





What?



You've just told me HW has said nothing, so how can I punish her? o_o



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



How is that my fault? Honestly man this is a shame.


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On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:38 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





As I said, we don't log any chat o_o


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



check the chat logs they say otherwise, also explain why she would change name and deny eevr being there if she did nothing wrong. Yes i know Thunderstorms case was more direct, but it doesn't dismiss what HW did.


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On May 29, 2555 BE, at 9:37 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW never told anyone she was watching the trade. HW never mentioned anything regarding the scam before it happened. Do you know what Thunderstorm did? That's the difference.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The fact that Rush said she would watch trade and make sure it goes through. Then she appeared at the house. Just like Thunderstorm she was in stealth, except in her case she didn't impersonate to be anyone. Her presense was the reason I did the trade, Not once did she try to say anything or stop it. Of course not Rush is her boyfriend, kinda obvious. Then after the whole situation why does she change name and say she was never there?


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On May 28, 2555 BE, at 11:02 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





so how did HW abuse any of her powers?


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:

Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

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Talon 05-30-2012 08:05 PM

Just e-mail it, we don't really need to see it.

Bandit 05-30-2012 08:12 PM

No he made a post on here stating all these things and he closed the thread. Im making it public.

Maxy 05-30-2012 08:17 PM

eyou the guy with the YouTube video?

Bandit 05-30-2012 08:18 PM

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Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

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The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...


12:00 PM (15 minutes ago)








The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...






















Snk Snk [email protected]



12:10 PM (5 minutes ago)














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Right before my eyes? What you have said is prosecuting evidence... rofl


Thanks,



Andrew.












On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Vargas if you want to know more.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 30, 2555 BE, at 10:34 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





Duke, you're an idiot.



I'm not sticking up for HW, you're not providing any evidence. How can I punish someone if she has said / done nothing?



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



Not gonna argue this with you, if you wanna keep coming up with exscuses for her there is nothing I can do. The evidence is obvious yet you avoid it. You cannot fire a staff for something like this then not enforce it to others


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 30, 2555 BE, at 9:50 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





You clearly don't know Witch or the other one hahahaha


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



You must not know your own staff than, at least they were dating at the time.


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On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:07 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW and Rush are not dating.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



No I didn't, I said it wasn't as direct as Thunderstorms case. The evidence is obvious, the fact that she and Rush are dating makes it even more. It is up to you if you don't want to do anything, but this isn't the first time she has abused and this definately won't be the last seeming she doesn't get consequences for her actions. Thanks for looking into the case, but I don't know how much more evidence I can get than that.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 1:25 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





What?



You've just told me HW has said nothing, so how can I punish her? o_o



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



How is that my fault? Honestly man this is a shame.


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On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:38 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





As I said, we don't log any chat o_o


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



check the chat logs they say otherwise, also explain why she would change name and deny eevr being there if she did nothing wrong. Yes i know Thunderstorms case was more direct, but it doesn't dismiss what HW did.


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On May 29, 2555 BE, at 9:37 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW never told anyone she was watching the trade. HW never mentioned anything regarding the scam before it happened. Do you know what Thunderstorm did? That's the difference.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The fact that Rush said she would watch trade and make sure it goes through. Then she appeared at the house. Just like Thunderstorm she was in stealth, except in her case she didn't impersonate to be anyone. Her presense was the reason I did the trade, Not once did she try to say anything or stop it. Of course not Rush is her boyfriend, kinda obvious. Then after the whole situation why does she change name and say she was never there?


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On May 28, 2555 BE, at 11:02 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





so how did HW abuse any of her powers?


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:

Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

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BboyEatsbacon 05-30-2012 08:20 PM

Scamming is 100% legal, j/s

Bandit 05-30-2012 08:21 PM

Then why is thunderstorm fired?

Emera 05-30-2012 08:22 PM

I only encourage spacing when writing scripts, but even this is a little too much.

BboyEatsbacon 05-30-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Posted by Bandit (Post 129315)
Then why is thunderstorm fired?

He was abusing staff tools? Did you not read the thread snk posted?

Bandit 05-30-2012 08:25 PM

He did not abuse any staff tools, just the concept of them. HW did the same thing, just less indirect.

AnthonyObsidian 05-30-2012 08:34 PM

How many times does a admin have to be warned before they are fired? This isn't the first time that homeless witch has been warned for doing something wrong. If I remember correctly back around Thanksgiving she summoned turkeys at her friends gang house so her friends could get the thanksgiving stuff easily, and now she assisted in Graal Era Terrorist Squad scamming illest........

Maxy 05-30-2012 08:37 PM

YouTube video, this isn't proof

Bandit 05-30-2012 09:24 PM

The video shows enough for my accusations to be valid. This isn't her first warning either like Anthony stated.

Talon 05-30-2012 09:29 PM

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Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

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Duke Morales





The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...


12:00 PM (15 minutes ago)








The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...






















Snk Snk [email protected]



12:10 PM (5 minutes ago)














to me










Right before my eyes? What you have said is prosecuting evidence... rofl


Thanks,



Andrew.












On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Vargas if you want to know more.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 30, 2555 BE, at 10:34 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





Duke, you're an idiot.



I'm not sticking up for HW, you're not providing any evidence. How can I punish someone if she has said / done nothing?



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



Not gonna argue this with you, if you wanna keep coming up with exscuses for her there is nothing I can do. The evidence is obvious yet you avoid it. You cannot fire a staff for something like this then not enforce it to others


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 30, 2555 BE, at 9:50 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





You clearly don't know Witch or the other one hahahaha


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



You must not know your own staff than, at least they were dating at the time.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:07 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW and Rush are not dating.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



No I didn't, I said it wasn't as direct as Thunderstorms case. The evidence is obvious, the fact that she and Rush are dating makes it even more. It is up to you if you don't want to do anything, but this isn't the first time she has abused and this definately won't be the last seeming she doesn't get consequences for her actions. Thanks for looking into the case, but I don't know how much more evidence I can get than that.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 1:25 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





What?



You've just told me HW has said nothing, so how can I punish her? o_o



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



How is that my fault? Honestly man this is a shame.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:38 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





As I said, we don't log any chat o_o


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



check the chat logs they say otherwise, also explain why she would change name and deny eevr being there if she did nothing wrong. Yes i know Thunderstorms case was more direct, but it doesn't dismiss what HW did.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 9:37 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW never told anyone she was watching the trade. HW never mentioned anything regarding the scam before it happened. Do you know what Thunderstorm did? That's the difference.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The fact that Rush said she would watch trade and make sure it goes through. Then she appeared at the house. Just like Thunderstorm she was in stealth, except in her case she didn't impersonate to be anyone. Her presense was the reason I did the trade, Not once did she try to say anything or stop it. Of course not Rush is her boyfriend, kinda obvious. Then after the whole situation why does she change name and say she was never there?


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 28, 2555 BE, at 11:02 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





so how did HW abuse any of her powers?


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:

Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

Sent from my iPad 2

Holy ****.

Whackanerd 05-30-2012 09:34 PM

LMAO IT DOESNT MATTER there was nothing illegal with what i just read in fact all the stuff you just said sounded pointless chill u got obsidian what more do you want?

334 05-30-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Posted by Whackanerd (Post 129352)
LMAO IT DOESNT MATTER there was nothing illegal with what i just read in fact all the stuff you just said sounded pointless chill u got obsidian what more do you want?

Coming from the biased scammer :/

Maxy 05-30-2012 09:40 PM

video.

Zero02 05-30-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Posted by Whackanerd (Post 129352)
LMAO IT DOESNT MATTER there was nothing illegal with what i just read in fact all the stuff you just said sounded pointless chill u got obsidian what more do you want?

He just wants HW fired <_<

Bandit 05-30-2012 09:52 PM

Either that or Thunderstorm should get his job back, you cannot do something to someone and not enforce it to anyone else who does the same thing.

iPulse* 05-30-2012 09:54 PM

Quote:

Posted by Bandit (Post 129375)
Either that or Thunderstorm should get his job back, you cannot do something to someone and not enforce it to anyone else who does the same thing.

Agreed, or this would be an act of favoritism on HW.

Billy 05-30-2012 10:00 PM

HW should be fired by now,like seriously she gets away with everything because she helps develop the server because some staff are lazy.

AnthonyObsidian 05-30-2012 10:01 PM

She doesn't even develop much besides her turtle park and Graal Era Terrorist Squads secret hideout.

Renegade1337 05-30-2012 10:03 PM

Ha you have no clue how much shes worked, shes there because earned her spot

iPulse* 05-30-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Posted by Renegade1337 (Post 129386)
Ha you have no clue how much shes worked, shes there because earned her spot

You must have no clue how much she has abused and no action has ever been done.

AnthonyObsidian 05-30-2012 10:06 PM

I'm not saying shes not doing a lot of work. I'm saying she shouldn't get involved with gangs like Graal Era Terrorist Squad.

iPulse* 05-30-2012 10:13 PM

She does good work. Yea. But she needs to stop helping her friends more than other players. She gives more to her friends than she does to any player. I needed an account transfer and she ignored me. Good thing leixia replied and I got my transfer.

Xertic 05-30-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Posted by Bandit (Post 129304)
First of all I have been answering your emails so I don't know why you have to lie about that. In fact I will have them posted up here sometime today.

1. Rush got HW to watch the trade, check his pmlogs which you probally havn't bothered to do.

2. Yes I did ask HW and vendihn to come watch. Vendihn came and summoned Witch. What more do you want?

The evidence is obvious, you are just to ignorant to see it.







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Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

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Duke Morales





The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...


12:00 PM (15 minutes ago)








The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Var...






















Snk Snk [email protected]



12:10 PM (5 minutes ago)














to me










Right before my eyes? What you have said is prosecuting evidence... rofl


Thanks,



Andrew.












On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The evidence is right before your eyes, and you call me an idiot? Talk to Vargas if you want to know more.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 30, 2555 BE, at 10:34 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





Duke, you're an idiot.



I'm not sticking up for HW, you're not providing any evidence. How can I punish someone if she has said / done nothing?



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



Not gonna argue this with you, if you wanna keep coming up with exscuses for her there is nothing I can do. The evidence is obvious yet you avoid it. You cannot fire a staff for something like this then not enforce it to others


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 30, 2555 BE, at 9:50 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





You clearly don't know Witch or the other one hahahaha


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



You must not know your own staff than, at least they were dating at the time.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:07 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW and Rush are not dating.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



No I didn't, I said it wasn't as direct as Thunderstorms case. The evidence is obvious, the fact that she and Rush are dating makes it even more. It is up to you if you don't want to do anything, but this isn't the first time she has abused and this definately won't be the last seeming she doesn't get consequences for her actions. Thanks for looking into the case, but I don't know how much more evidence I can get than that.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 1:25 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





What?



You've just told me HW has said nothing, so how can I punish her? o_o



Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



How is that my fault? Honestly man this is a shame.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 11:38 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





As I said, we don't log any chat o_o


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



check the chat logs they say otherwise, also explain why she would change name and deny eevr being there if she did nothing wrong. Yes i know Thunderstorms case was more direct, but it doesn't dismiss what HW did.


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 29, 2555 BE, at 9:37 AM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





HW never told anyone she was watching the trade. HW never mentioned anything regarding the scam before it happened. Do you know what Thunderstorm did? That's the difference.


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:



The fact that Rush said she would watch trade and make sure it goes through. Then she appeared at the house. Just like Thunderstorm she was in stealth, except in her case she didn't impersonate to be anyone. Her presense was the reason I did the trade, Not once did she try to say anything or stop it. Of course not Rush is her boyfriend, kinda obvious. Then after the whole situation why does she change name and say she was never there?


Sent from my iPad 2




On May 28, 2555 BE, at 11:02 PM, Snk Snk <[email protected]> wrote:





so how did HW abuse any of her powers?


Thanks,



Andrew.




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Duke Morales <[email protected]> wrote:

Anthony should have emailed you the video by now. Here's a short summary. Rush offered to give me Obsidian back for illest. I wasn't gonna do it unless a staff member watched, but than I was told staff can't do anything. Yet I got a staff member there named Vendihn or somethen like that. I was going to leave but than Rush said that if Staff watches the trade will be legit. Vendihn summoned " Witch" who is obviously Homelesswitch. She was stealth and to the left of the screen. After Vendihn left HW was still shooting from the side so you could tell she was still there. I gave Rush the gang, while HW didn't bother to stop it or anything. While the only reason I did the trade is because a staff was there and watching. She warps away, Rush kicks me from house, and then I talk to vendihn. He later says that HW was the other staff there because I didn't know who it was. Btw after HW denied ever being there. Thanks.

Sent from my iPad 2

This is obscene & tasteless.

Chaotic 05-30-2012 10:20 PM

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Posted by snk (Post 129285)
cool video and awesome thread. 2bad i closed it.

Duke, you've failed to answer my emails. I'll post the questions here, reply back to email if you're bothered.

1,) Did HW or any staff member tell you they were watching this trade? Your answer is no.
2,) Did you ask HW or any staff member to watch this trade? Your answer is no.

How can I punish admins for being in the same level which you were scammed in. You know scamming is legal, so it's your own fault. I've explained this in emails, but you don't seem to understand.


Plus, at all of you saying HW doesn't do anything, she's one of the most hardest working staff members on the team. Half the new content you have wouldn't be there without her working on it. She does a lot behind the scenes to, not everything she does is public, like her current project. She does her job pretty damn well, its sad she doesn't get the appreciation she deserves.

Bandit 05-30-2012 10:32 PM

If you bothered reading my post I never said she didn't work hard. In fact I have already commended her for working hard, but the thing I was talking about was her abusing.

Chaotic 05-30-2012 10:37 PM

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Posted by Bandit (Post 129409)
If you bothered reading my post I never said she didn't work hard. In fact I have already commended her for working hard, but the thing I was talking about was her abusing.

The snk quote was directed at you, the rest was at everyone else in the thread.

Zero02 05-30-2012 10:43 PM

I still dont get how is this is scamming? How is this favoritism?

Peter5498 05-30-2012 10:46 PM

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Posted by Zero02 (Post 129425)
How is this favoritism?

He thinks that snk is giving HW so many chances, but he really isn't. She's actually pretty great at Dev.

Off Topic Chat: Sorry, but does HW also do scripting since she's a Dev?

DragonRider 05-30-2012 10:54 PM

pics or it didn't happen

iPulse* 05-30-2012 10:57 PM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 129442)
pics or it didn't happen

There's video..

Fellage 05-30-2012 10:59 PM

Whether scamming is legal or not, I dont think it is encouraged. A PR is suppose to set an example to everyone else. If a PR scams then it is right that they are removed. Just saying. :)

Banshee 05-30-2012 11:03 PM

Im sorry for all those who disagree prs are suppose to set an example and not help scam thats what thunderstorm did. Andrew wouldnt have to make such a big choice if the other devs wernt lazy

DragonRider 05-30-2012 11:03 PM

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Posted by iPulse* (Post 129445)
There's video..

I'm saying the emails.

Billy 05-30-2012 11:04 PM

Are staff forced to agree with other staff? I see it all the time,in fact some people that were former players never backed up or supported everything another staff would say. Then they become staff and get brainwashed,reminds me of the government,somewhat. xD

Bandit 05-30-2012 11:07 PM

Just like Russia...

iPulse* 05-30-2012 11:08 PM

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 129451)
I'm saying the emails.

Why would he write all that. You don't make any sense. You can't have a "pic" of everything.

NCJohn 05-30-2012 11:10 PM

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Posted by Billy (Post 129452)
Are staff forced to agree with other staff? I see it all the time,in fact some people that were former players never backed up or supported everything another staff would say. Then they become staff and get brainwashed,reminds me of the government,somewhat. xD

No, not all staff agree on the same things.

iPulse* 05-30-2012 11:14 PM

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Posted by Billy (Post 129452)
Are staff forced to agree with other staff? I see it all the time,in fact some people that were former players never backed up or supported everything another staff would say. Then they become staff and get brainwashed,reminds me of the government,somewhat. xD

That's what it starting to seem like. But there are some good admins out there. Mostly not. Otherwise you could say administration is starting to be corrupt.

Higbey 05-30-2012 11:14 PM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon
Scamming is 100% legal, j/s

Not when a staff does it using their position. Staff aren't supposed to even "watch over" a trade, by watching it you make the player think that you will stop any scam, not help the scam, it shows she was there and that she lied about denying it. Do you honestly expect her to on the video say "I have used my staff powers to help this person scam you"?

This is far more than enough evidence, Id probably have been fired if I Had done this on a weak dev server like xazier or nerv.

This is just ridiculous. No doubt Stefan will not care that snks doing this.

A trading system is out of the question, but Snk blatantly failing to enforce staff rules and fire this one staff member that's had countless accusations already. Snk won't even take away her gun testing rights or delete that gang she obsesses over instead of helping players. Don't say it's not her job, all staff should try to help the players.

This is just sickening. This is why I left iera. Classic may have far less content, but at least I can trust that XOR has no problems firing staff he is friends with.

Wolfy 05-30-2012 11:15 PM

Talk to Tink or Pix. They got V I P back for us when a noob scammed Jello for it.

Bandit 05-30-2012 11:19 PM

Higbey I agree with you.

Zero02 05-30-2012 11:22 PM

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Posted by Wolfy (Post 129474)
Talk to Tink or Pix. They got V I P back for us when a noob scammed Jello for it.

Tink is gone lol

Higbey 05-30-2012 11:25 PM

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Posted by Billy
Are staff forced to agree with other staff? I see it all the time,in fact some people that were former players never backed up or supported everything another staff would say. Then they become staff and get brainwashed,reminds me of the government,somewhat. xD

Well they can disagree, but they can't really openly say it when the decision is made by someone higher up than them, like if one of them were to say that homeless witch deserved to be fired or revealed anything they would get in trouble and be fired for "leaking rc" and "misconduct".

Also no one is saying HW doesn't work hard, just if there is all this evidence and acussations and she is only a dev, she doesnt need any staff powers other than uploading stuff to the server. That would put a end to this. Make her like a normal player but let her have the powers only for the dev parts like uploading stuff and sending levels to people.

iPulse* 05-30-2012 11:26 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 129473)
Not when a staff does it using their position. Staff aren't supposed to even "watch over" a trade, by watching it you make the player think that you will stop any scam, not help the scam, it shows she was there and that she lied about denying it. Do you honestly expect her to on the video say "I have used my staff powers to help this person scam you"?

This is far more than enough evidence, Id probably have been fired if I Had done this on a weak dev server like xazier or nerv.

This is just ridiculous. No doubt Stefan will not care that snks doing this.

A trading system is out of the question, but Snk blatantly failing to enforce staff rules and fire this one staff member that's had countless accusations already. Snk won't even take away her gun testing rights or delete that gang she obsesses over instead of helping players. Don't say it's not her job, all staff should try to help the players.

This is just sickening. This is why I left iera. Classic may have far less content, but at least I can trust that XOR has no problems firing staff he is friends with.

Most logical post I have seen yet.

Higbey 05-30-2012 11:43 PM

It's rather simple. She doesn't need all that other stuff. She should be happy she isnt fired for this. She can't abuse as basically a player with only upload rights and such, if she needs something done that requires other rights she can ask them on rc or whatever.

DragonRider 05-30-2012 11:46 PM

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Posted by iPulse* (Post 129462)
Why would he write all that. You don't make any sense. You can't have a "pic" of everything.

I don't know. He types up a LOT of bull****.

But srsly Bandit, cry some more.


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