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p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 01:08 PM

Unbanning people now impossible?
 
yo. :)


I'm banned and asked snk if he could unban me.
He said it's not possible for him anymore and I said it's alright.

I was banned before and he unbanned me like 4 weeks ago.
Is he telling the truth?

Or is it just impossible to get unbanned in my case?
Or does he just don't like me? lol


-Pearlkryer

Ace 06-08-2012 01:19 PM

nothings impossible

p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ace (Post 136346)
nothings impossible

Ikr?

My first ban was because of Faking In-App purchases. (I really intended to buy gralats with real money lol)

The second ban is for the same reason again.

I mean why would I do the same thing again? :o [/sarcasm] OF COURZE FUR THE FOUN [sarcasm/]


I'm not complaining I just want to know if he tells the truth.

Higbey 06-08-2012 01:26 PM

he isnt telling the truth, he can unban you as manager. unless stefan himself banned you, but then he only has to get stefan to unban you,

p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 136351)
he isnt telling the truth, he can unban you as manager. unless stefan himself banned you, but then he only has to get stefan to unban you,

o.o

He lied!
He said: "No way to get unbanned :("

My only question now is.... why? :unsure:

PS: The system banned me, because i was faking in-app purchases

Johnaudi 06-08-2012 02:21 PM

Mainly, people who banned you are the only one who can unban (or higher)... But since npcserver is the highest, then you will need to get unbanned manually, there will be no more logs about that and snk would not risk that. So basically, you can't get unbanned by snk.

Jester Lapse 06-08-2012 02:24 PM

Why make a thread? Are you looking for a flame war? This won't get you unbanned any quicker. Seems like you're just looking for attention

p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by Johnaudi (Post 136373)
Mainly, people who banned you are the only one who can unban (or higher)... But since npcserver is the highest, then you will need to get unbanned manually, there will be no more logs about that and snk would not risk that. So basically, you can't get unbanned by snk.

Umm, my first time ban, was because of faking In-App purchases.
The Server banned me and Snk unbanned me.

Now its the second ban, because of the same reason.
The server banned me. And now Snk says unbanning now is impossible.

Kinda makes no sense to me D:

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 136375)
Why make a thread? Are you looking for a flame war? This won't get you unbanned any quicker. Seems like you're just looking for attention

I'm not looking for a flame war lol. I also know that I won't get unbanned for making this thread.

Also I am not looking for attention. (who needs that anyways?)

I just want to know if he lied or not.
Sure emailing him, would be much faster, but what if he lies to me again?

I'm looking for answers. Not for new questions.


-Pearlkryer

Downsider 06-08-2012 02:44 PM

There is no hierarchy for that system. It doesn't exist, and even if it were there (which it's not), you could just modify the script.

p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 02:48 PM

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Posted by Downsider (Post 136377)
There is no hierarchy for that system. It doesn't exist, and even if it were there (which it's not), you could just modify the script.

That means, any Admin could unban me?

PS:Would be nice if a admin could clear things up.

flaw* 06-08-2012 02:52 PM

He lied end of discussion close thread

Jester Lapse 06-08-2012 02:57 PM

So you expect a right answer from random players?

p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Posted by Jester Lapse (Post 136380)
So you expect a right answer from random players?

Yep.
But I'm not expecting them, I would like to see some.

Downsider 06-08-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Posted by p3arlkryer (Post 136378)
That means, any Admin could unban me?

PS:Would be nice if a admin could clear things up.

From what I can tell from a little reverse engineering, the ban system does not have any hierarchy system in place, and anybody who has ban rights can ban, and anybody who has unban rights can unban. There are no privilege levels that dictate who is able to ban certain players, and who is able to reverse bans of other players. On top of this, even if such a system were in place, it would be very easy for any scripter to override.

They're not going to tell you the truth, anyway. And an IAP cracker wouldn't even work on an MMO because the server is the one who decides if you've purchased anything or not, the client has no authority in this matter and if it did, it would be 100% accurately, automated detectable. They shouldn't ban for it if it's literally impossible to use.

p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Posted by Downsider (Post 136382)
From what I can tell from a little reverse engineering, the ban system does not have any hierarchy system in place, and anybody who has ban rights can ban, and anybody who has unban rights can unban. There are no privilege levels that dictate who is able to ban certain players, and who is able to reverse bans of other players. On top of this, even if such a system were in place, it would be very easy for any scripter to override.

They're not going to tell you the truth, anyway. And an IAP cracker wouldn't even work on an MMO because the server is the one who decides if you've purchased anything or not, the client has no authority in this matter and if it did, it would be 100% accurately, automated detectable. They shouldn't ban for it if it's literally impossible to use.

I know many other games, where just an error pops up and says "can't purchase, ERROR 045" or something like that.

That would be waay better.

MrSimons 06-08-2012 06:25 PM

Snk hates you.
/thread

snk 06-08-2012 08:59 PM

I can't unban you, you've already been caught for it once in which case I unbanned you. Since it's happened again, I can't.
Why should I unban somebody that is trying to steal money?

Higbey 06-08-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Posted by snk (Post 136497)
I can't unban you, you've already been caught for it once in which case I unbanned you. Since it's happened again, I can't.
Why should I unban somebody that is trying to steal money?

well since he did it once, do you think he thought trying again would do something different? thats what i dont like about the detection system, players that have the iap cracker installed dont always remember to take it off before buying a gralat pack, its not even possible for it to work, so why put a punishment if you dont know if its on purpose? just a error message saying inap cracker was detected and it sending a message on rc notifying of it,


its like a guy had a knife in his backpack, and a policeman arrests him for robbery when he buys something from a store since he had a knife, so he could have been intending on robbing the store.

BabyGhost 06-08-2012 09:43 PM

This is scaring me. My clan leader got banned. I don't know for how long.

snk 06-08-2012 09:51 PM

All bans are a month on Era. I've removed the year ban.

BboyEatsbacon 06-08-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 136517)
well since he did it once, do you think he thought trying again would do something different? thats what i dont like about the detection system, players that have the iap cracker installed dont always remember to take it off before buying a gralat pack, its not even possible for it to work, so why put a punishment if you dont know if its on purpose? just a error message saying inap cracker was detected and it sending a message on rc notifying of it,


its like a guy had a knife in his backpack, and a policeman arrests him for robbery when he buys something from a store since he had a knife, so he could have been intending on robbing the store.

Wrong; Knives can be used for many things, iAP cracker is simply used to illegally gain in-app benefits.

If he had iAP Cracker, he's most likely committing illegal activity anyway...

It's like trying to download a movie illegally and you don't realize it. Even if you don't realize you're doing it, you're still committing illegal activity and will be punished.

Ace 06-08-2012 10:32 PM

who doesn't pirate these days

romario786 06-08-2012 10:41 PM

Quote:

Posted by Ace (Post 136556)
who doesn't pirate these days

piratebay all the way :D try to shutdown that mr government lool :D (sorry for being off-topic)

p3arlkryer 06-08-2012 11:50 PM

Quote:

Posted by snk (Post 136497)
I can't unban you, you've already been caught for it once in which case I unbanned you. Since it's happened again, I can't.
Why should I unban somebody that is trying to steal money?

All bans are a month on Era. I've removed the year ban.

I wasn't trying to steal money. >.>
These days no one believes you, even if you tell the truth. :(

Also I think bans should be, first 3 days, then 10 days and then 30 days, but it depends on the ban situation.
__________________________________________________ ____
Aww man, but it's alright.
I got my answer. :)

Should I delete the thread?

PS: Damn that Iap Cracker, deleted that friggin thing now. >.>

poorface 06-09-2012 12:56 AM

He probably unbanned you the first time to warn you, because it was your first time. Now, he knows that you know about the auto-ban that comes with app cracker, so he won't unban you. Next time, just turn off app cracker and you should be able to buy more stuff just fine.

Ace 06-09-2012 01:46 AM

But you forgot you have iap enabled. It needs to warn you like it does with UDID filter.

Higbey 06-09-2012 02:14 AM

It's easy to forget in the spur of the moment.

dragondude9221 06-09-2012 02:48 AM

Quote:

Posted by snk (Post 136530)
All bans are a month on Era. I've removed the year ban.

Even me :D?
Mr. I don't reply to e-mails [;

The Doctor 06-09-2012 04:40 AM

I've only got iAP cracker once to get money for jet pack joyride, but I forgot to take it off and tried to buy a gralat pack on era. PLEASE make a warning when you start the game that it detects the cracker. You can't buy packs without it off/uninstalled.

Downsider 06-09-2012 05:27 AM

So stupid. You auto-ban for a month for this? That's so fucking priceless.

I'd say it's safe to say that somewhere in the realm of 75+% of your regular users have bought the customization pack. The customization pack is typically something someone would buy within their first week to month playing. Imagine if you get banned for a month after having just bought the game, that's pathetic.

I mean, these people are clearly on the in-app purchase page for a reason. They want something on that page. You have planted the seed successfully and what they want is right there.

It is impossible for them to steal it with an iAP cracker. Therefore, why the unholy fuck would you ban them when they're right there on the page, looking at your product, WANT the damn thing, and could be literally SECONDS AWAY from being an impulse-buy customer?!

gg, Era. Quality. Blows my mind.

EDIT: Seriously, how do Stefan and Co. trust their product to people who come up with this stuff? A 10 year old has more product awareness than whomever thought this was a good idea.

EDIT 2: I am very upset.

snk 06-09-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Posted by dragondude9221 (Post 136652)
Even me :D?
Mr. I don't reply to e-mails [;

Yes, of course I will reply to the person that wants to be LAT again even after they hacked the Era Facebook.:rolleyes:

Alexei 06-09-2012 07:40 AM

lie

Quote:

Posted by snk (Post 136778)
Yes, of course I will reply to the person that wants to be LAT again even after they hacked the Era Facebook.:rolleyes:

Mr.Dontreplytoemails

Really,I sent you one about GraalOnline Future :dazed:

callimuc 06-09-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Posted by Alexei (Post 136798)
Really,I sent you one about GraalOnline Future :dazed:

:rolleyes:

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 136517)
well since he did it once, do you think he thought trying again would do something different?

Yes because some people think they found a way to avoid it or that they will have a lucky moment.

Johnaudi 06-09-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Posted by snk

Yes, of course I will reply to the person that wants to be LAT again even after they hacked the Era Facebook.:rolleyes:

:'(

dragondude9221 06-09-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Posted by snk (Post 136778)
Yes, of course I will reply to the person that wants to be LAT again even after they hacked the Era Facebook.:rolleyes:

I want to earn your trust again.. Start me off with no rights; Keep me as a trial for as long as you want. I just want to help you & Coop.. I enjoyed making iEra people happy creating events, levels, and shops.. I also enjoyed impressing you with my work. Taking over the Facebook page was a terrible idea.. Harassing you during my time of removal also wasn't a good choice. Please give me one more chance? If I mess up, remove me forever, ignore me etc.. I'll prove you wrong and show you I can be a mature, well-working staff member.

Higbey 06-09-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Posted by dragondude9221 (Post 137070)
I want to earn your trust again.. Start me off with no rights; Keep me as a trial for as long as you want. I just want to help you & Coop.. I enjoyed making iEra people happy creating events, levels, and shops.. I also enjoyed impressing you with my work. Taking over the Facebook was a terrible idea.. Harassing you during my time of removal also wasn't a good choice. Please give me one more chance? If I mess up, remove me forever, ignore me etc.. I'll prove you wrong and show you I can be a mature, well-working staff member.

this^

once me and xor where famous for our fights, we hated eachother, i dont know how many bans i evaded, but ive gotten past it, and gotten a second chance, and now look at me, me and xor are friends and working together on a great project for graal.

p3arlkryer 06-10-2012 01:32 AM

Quote:

Posted by callimuc (Post 136863)
:rolleyes:



Yes because some people think they found a way to avoid it or that they will have a lucky moment.

Becausr im the bggirst haxxor evar!!!1!1!111!

No, srsly.
I just had it accidently on, I didnt even want it on my iPod anyways.

Alexei 06-10-2012 09:16 AM

What

p3arlkryer 06-10-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Posted by Alexei (Post 137457)
What

What what?


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