Level up system
 

last night i was thinking about this and it kinda came to me as a great idea, you can say its stupid or not i dont really care but it would give Graal Classic a lasting appeal, ive seen many people quit the game cuz they complain theres nothing to do in the game, im just saying Classic should stop being a chatroom game, to bad there not hiring for scripting ;) ha i would never work for Graal what am I saying xD if i was staff id quit forever lol

This is for other servers, not iClassic. Wait for iDelteria, and iStroseria, if you want leveling.

Why would I want a ****ty level up system? If you want to play a good MMO, theres a billion games, that aren't graal.

dang fine xD no need to get mad lol

nay. delete

I wasn't aware Stroseria is going for iPhone :o

Delteria iPhone will have a leveling system among other things.

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The best aspect of graal classic is you can compete in combat without others having better stats that one hit kill you or overpowered weapons* cough*era* cough*

however I do agree classic should stop being a chatroom game and start focusing on the old goals. When Graal city became pk and when new pk zones were added almost everyone loved it but it was changed back anyways.

I dont think a level up system woud be necessary on classic since there are not a lot of different ways to fight.

On a side note, last time I checked all ther weapons are balanced with all of them doing roughly the same amount of damage.

Badly rusted started pistol vs perfect BAR, go. 1v10 I believe, and bar can spam bullets

Yea, in era it's not "all weapons are equal but different", weapons cost money and arent all equal.

Challenge accepted

As I understand it, we are working on a PC server but eventually aim to be multiplatform. So people on PC and people on iPhone are playing together.

Anyway, I've seen levels in the screenshots so I'm not leaking too much.

I'm opposed to a traditional level up system, but I think it would be neat to have quests where you can upgrade your maximum life like Unholy Nation does, and maybe your sword too.

First off, it is not really a game. Classic does have game elements, but this is mainly a social game. Leveling will not be as simple as just coding in a leveling system. You have to put in other factors like changing the entire melee system already. But there will be other versions of graal out there with leveling system.

Stefan feels that this would make new players lured away since they will be at a disadvantage when they first start, and I have to agree with that. Right now you can join and immediately start pking with equal opportunity. With that you would have to find all the quests and complete them all. Plus half the community is lazy and spams Graal city all day.

Great community, eh?

that sounds like a great idea, do you see how much iphone players bitch about pc players already?

that is stupid and how could you agree with that? How do you think any MMO/RPG starts?
Obviously the lazy people will stay and do nothing and chat. Everyone else who actually wants to play a game will have something to do and work for and progress.

Yes, I do. PC Players also bitch about iPhone players.

If they played together, with no way to tell which platform they're playing on, except for if they asked them, would it really matter? I think not.

They just use different controls. Humans aren't any better because they use a computer, or an iPod.

you can try to argue about it with me but it doesn't matter, they'll still bitch about it.

I know :(
People can be really ignorant.

Unfortunatatley the majority of people who play Graal and make Eurocenter money fit into the former category. Few fit into the latter.

So who are Stefan and Unixmad going to cater to? I think we all know.

How do you know? The two iphone servers offer no leveling or progression system, just a bunch of stats and stupid items.

ROFL! A LEVELING UP SYSTEM? THERE'D BE LIKE 15 PLAYERS OUT OF 1800 WHO'D ACTUALLY GO OUT AND TEST THE NEW UPDATE.

Quit iGraal, pay for gold subscription on Graal PC, done, alot of servers with leveling :blush:.

Making graal a real mmo< hatshop
Making 30 servers and leaving the original to be the least dev> good mmo content for iclassic

obviously not idiots like yourself

I'm just telling the truth man, most kids in iPhone classic are inactive pkers who just spend their entire day RPing.

I've spent a lot of time observing the community, and from what I've seen of it I think it's safe to say that most players are only interesting in running a social network and not so much playing a game.

No no no no no! I refuse to accept a level up system. (<- no sense right there .-. )
As itsbao93 said, its mainly a social game. I beleive reading that Graal was ' a social game with a twist '

And what keeps us from adding levels and turning it into a REAL. Game

^ amen.

iClassic has been established as a social server, and even stated as such by certain staff.
I was saying it would be successful on a different (new) iPhone server.


that is true, I wouldn't say most but there is a good amount of them.

[QUOTE=Rexx;145779]iClassic has been established as a social server, and even stated as such by certain staff.
I was saying it would be successful on a different (new) iPhone server.


Oh! My apologies. For a new server? Yeah, I think it would be cool

Introducing a level up system will just pull Classic iPhone away from everything it's already about. Since a levelling feature is such a major system, most of the server's gameplay and such will revolve around it, and I don't think that Classic iPhone wants that to happen. It's a nice idea, but not for Classic iPhone.

Those "staff" should be fired then.

And why isnt it? It disrupts the people who sit in graal city?

I would GLADLY commision myself and my small army of developer friends to make a level system. Quests and acheivements. And it wouldnt take YEARS to get one update out either...

Agreed! ^.^

This is a Classic style server, and it would be in everyone's best interest to keep it that way. There are other servers for people who think otherwise.

Well... You can always turn towards the community. Right now the vast majority are here for social fun, then the game element players. Those players are also divided up into... Sparring and tower taking. You would probably have to have a huge voice from the population I graal that wants this feature as it will basically re write graal AND is a huge amount of work involved, so unless graal classi really wants it... Yeah.

Developers would have to spend time doing a lot of reworks and adding to the game i they were to add this system.

Leveling, okay I leveled up... What can I do? Unlock skills? (needs rewrite of the simple already hit with melee and arrow in one direction.) also counting other stuff idk a lot... Health will be change, have to put in new weapons now... Etc.


Okay, leveling up? Need monsters to fight right? Need experience right? Well, baddies and pyrates won't just do, a huge amount of space will be needed than the current map for monsters.

These are just some examples how big this update requested would be. I have no really sat here and took these into balancing either. Who knows, if this did happen, no much more hats? No more ustome swords (maybe pay for skins) change exactly how tower system and sparring works.

Besides you, I believe the majority of graal would not want this update. It wouldn't even be graal anymore, perhaps the game will be renamed once again if it does.

Basically a new game, why not wait for the next to come out?

So wanting change is bad ? Insted of just sitting in the second largest virtual hatshop? Wanting somtjing where everything isnt balanced perfectly? Where items have this amazing thing... Called... Benifits/perks.

1.) there there because thats what graal is basically advertised as. Its not talked up as some hardcore mmo? But that could change? Fanbase is relative... And lets see... It would add a new dimention to towers and sparring? Games have had complete redesigns before. Warcraft went from a medium rts to a mmo that dominates online gaming. Borrow health from era? With expansionary. Level based pvp? If there were paid scripters itd take 1-2months tops? There would always be customs. And still would retain alot of the same

Firing the staff who wrote the FAQ. Clever.

Most likely won't happen. Been plans already in place. I was also mainly pointing out to him what does keep from this update. The community and the fact that this is a really big sum to ask for a few.

Doesn't take much observation to catch on to that.


Anyways, what is this idea? "Level up system" is extremely vague. What are we leveling up? ***** size?

Whoever has the greatest upgrades or highest level will almost always win fights or defend towers more efficiently. I never said I wanted another virtual hat shop, so please give your wild assumptions a rest. Era and iEra use a system that allows you to purchase a better weapon than other players. This allows players to be virtually unstoppable in the eyes of newer players. In other words, not everyone is given an equal chance. This is not what iClassic thrives on, and would seriously toss the server into disarray.

A "Classic-style" server is something that revolves around being balanced, where players all have an equal chance to win a fight, defend a tower, etc. If you feel that strongly about a level system and love how much better it will make the gameplay, I advise you to try playing on a server called Zodiac. Not Classic, Zodiac.

Now, with all this talk of iZone, Delteria, etc., Maybe you would prefer one of those servers. If this is truly your opinion and not simply a lust for "something other than a hat shop", this is not the server for you.